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Apparently, a "USUAL SUSPECT"

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Some times good things do happen - however there will be no mention of the lawsuit the terrorist will initiate because the staff did not ensure he was protected from other inmates.

He's lucky all he lost was teeth.
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I do hope they won't be the last.   :nod:

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An update.  Hope the staff get exonerated. 

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Five prison officers suspended after Lee Rigby murder suspect Michael Adebolajo loses two teeth 'in melee' at Belmarsh high-security wing

    Several officers 'called in to help after Adebolajo began acting violently'
    He was injured during subsequent melee in prison's high-security wing
    Officers are suspended on full pay pending the results of an investigation
    Prison Officers' Association 'angry' at Ministry of Justice
    Says the officers deny any wrongdoing and used 'approved techniques'

By Emily Davies

PUBLISHED: 00:07 GMT, 20 July 2013 | UPDATED: 08:10 GMT, 20 July 2013

Five prison officers have been suspended after one of the men accused of hacking off-duty soldier Lee Rigby to death in Woolwich had two teeth knocked out.

The men were suspended from their duties from top-security Belmarsh Prison in south London after the alleged attack on Michael Adebolajo, 28, three days ago.

He had refused to obey officers’ instructions and had to be restrained, according to prison sources.

It is understood that five officers have to be on hand when Adebolajo leaves his cell.

Four of the officers were suspended on Thursday, while the fifth was suspended yesterday.

All of the officers are on full pay pending the results of the investigation.

Peter McParlin, chairman of the Prison Officers Association, accused the Ministry of Justice of over-reacting to the situation.

He told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: 'We have spoken to our members and on the basis of what our members have told us they have done absolutely nothing wrong.

'We are concerned that the Ministry of Justice have over-reacted due to the notoriety of this prisoner.'

Mr McParlin criticised the MoJ for failing to 'correct false reporting of the incident at Belmarsh.

He said restraint techniques were designed to minimise injuries to staff or prisoners 'but sometimes there are unforeseen consequences in any violent incident'.

Mr McParlin added: 'Some people have the idea that somehow it's a sitcom like Porridge. I'm afraid the reality of the modern prison system is far different from that.

He told the Times: ‘We feel that the Ministry of Justice have let the staff down here.

‘They have suspended five of our members but that does not necessarily mean they are guilty of anything.’

Adebolajo’s brother Jeremiah said Adebolajo telephoned after the incident, saying that he was bleeding and had lost the teeth.

She said: ‘I can confirm five members of staff have been suspended while there is a police investigation on going.’

She added that this was ‘not unusual’.

Adebolajo has been charged with murder and possession of a revolver, and also charged with the attempted murder of two police officers.

His alleged accomplice, Michael Adebowale, is charged with murder and possession of a firearm for the May 22 attack outside Woolwich barracks.

In a statement earlier this week, the POA said the officers involved 'strenuously deny any wrongdoing' and that the prisoner had been 'subjected to restraint using techniques' which are 'only used where necessary'.

It added: 'The POA will be supporting them legally and emotionally during this difficult time.

'The use of restraint is only used where necessary when dealing with incidents up and down the country.

'The POA will fully co-operate with any police investigation and are hopeful that this matter will be resolved quickly and we expect the officers to be completely exonerated.'

Adebolajo, from Romford, east London, complained about his treatment at the hands of prison staff during a court appearance last month.

During the June 5 hearing via video-link from the prison, he was flanked by prison officers in full riot gear.

Belmarsh staff asked for him to be handcuffed on the basis he was ‘unpredictable’ and had refused to comply with their orders.

The judge, Mr Justice Sweeney, terminated the video-link after Adebolajo launched into a series of rants against prison staff.

The unit in which he is being detained has the highest security classification in the country, and holds notorious terror suspects and dangerous felons.

Inmates have included Al Qaeda preacher Abu Qatada until his deportation earlier this month, and fanatic Abu Hamza, who was extradited to the US last year.

The cost of keeping each inmate in the unit is estimated at £65,000 a year.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2370988/Five-prison-officers-suspended-Lee-Rigby-murder-suspect-Michael-Adebolajo-loses-teeth-melee-Belmarsh-high-security-wing.html#ixzz2ZaNW2B52
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The staff will be punished severely, unfortunately!
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The staff will be punished severely, unfortunately!


I had a feeling this was going to happen.  Now the scum will sue, and quite possibly be given a nice "settlement" to make this all go away.
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I had a feeling this was going to happen.  Now the scum will sue, and quite possibly be given a nice "settlement" to make this all go away.

Let's hope the settlement includes "misplacing" a few more teeth!  >:D

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I'd be happy one day to hear his new prison nickname is "Gummer". 

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Perps sentenced to life
« Reply #111 on: February 26, 2014, 16:08:42 »
The latest - life sentences all 'round (highlights mine) ....
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Two British Muslim converts were sentenced to life in prison on Wednesday for hacking a soldier to death on a London street in broad daylight, a gruesome killing that horrified the nation and provoked an anti-Islamic backlash.

Michael Adebolajo, 29, and Michael Adebowale, 22, were convicted by a jury in December of murdering off-duty soldier Lee Rigby, a 25-year-old Afghan war veteran in Woolwich, southeast London, in May last year.

Adebolajo received a whole-life term while Adebowale was told he would serve a minimum period of 45 years.

They were sentenced in their absence after being dragged shouting and struggling down to the cells by security guards with whom they had started brawling in the dock as Judge Nigel Sweeney opened his sentencing remarks.

"You decided, between you, and in order to advance your extremist cause, to murder a soldier in public in broad daylight and to do so in a way that would generate maximum media coverage," Sweeney told the Old Bailey court, calling the killing "barbaric."

"Sentence for murder is mandatory - it must be one of life imprisonment," he said ....
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Re: 2 men hack soldier to death in UK, are then shot and wounded by police
« Reply #112 on: February 26, 2014, 17:08:31 »


Glad to hear the judge gave them a proper sentence. Well the proper sentence would have been death but this will have to do.

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Re: 2 men hack soldier to death in UK, are then shot and wounded by police
« Reply #113 on: February 26, 2014, 21:51:16 »
They wanted death, so they could be martyrs. Now they're locked up like common criminals and kept alive for a very long time so they can't spread their filth elsewhere.

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Re: 2 men hack soldier to death in UK, are then shot and wounded by police
« Reply #114 on: February 26, 2014, 22:36:21 »
They wanted death, so they could be martyrs. Now they're locked up like common criminals and kept alive for a very long time so they can't spread their filth elsewhere.

Islam is spreading like wildfire in US prisons.  Unless these two are kept in solitary confinement or otherwise segregated from the general population, there is the possibility that they may poison the minds of other criminals.
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Re: 2 men hack soldier to death in UK, are then shot and wounded by police
« Reply #115 on: February 27, 2014, 00:38:13 »
Unless these two are kept in solitary confinement or otherwise segregated from the general population, there is the possibility that they may poison the minds of other criminals.

And that is exactly where I would keep them. Segregated for the next 45 years, 23.5 hours per day in the cell. No contact at all with other inmates.
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Re: 2 men hack soldier to death in UK, are then shot and wounded by police
« Reply #116 on: February 27, 2014, 06:48:38 »
One fellow will out in time to collect old age pension
Done, 34 years, 43 days complete, got's me damn pension!

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Re: 2 men hack soldier to death in UK, are then shot and wounded by police
« Reply #117 on: February 27, 2014, 07:34:09 »
One fellow will out in time to collect old age pension
One has to do a 45 year minimum. He then may apply for parole, if the UK system is similar to our own.

He may not receive parole. Let's hope.
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Re: 2 men hack soldier to death in UK, are then shot and wounded by police
« Reply #118 on: February 27, 2014, 09:28:30 »
One fellow will out in time to collect old age pension

Assuming he doesn't get shived...
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Re: 2 men hack soldier to death in UK, are then shot and wounded by police
« Reply #119 on: February 27, 2014, 10:00:57 »
Assuming he doesn't get shived...

There is always that possibility. I would not want to be the Warden undergoing scrutiny if that ever happened.

You just know the apologists and radicals would be screaming "conspiracy against Islam"
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Would be ironic if a Muslim did him in because he was a knobber...
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Was reading another story, and noticed this,

20 July 2016

Thieves steal expensive paving stones from a cenotaph memorial dedicated to the memory of murdered soldier Lee Rigby
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3699367/Paving-stones-dedicated-Lee-Rigby-stolen-Middleton-cenotaph-memorial-dedicated-memory-murdered-soldier.html
Paving slabs dedicated to the memory of murdered soldier Lee Rigby have been taken from his home town in a 'disgusting' theft.

24th July 2016

British soldiers warned 'scrub Facebook' after fears of Lee Rigby-style murders
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/532517/ISIS-threat-Lee-Rigby-RAF-Marham-Norfolk-Facebook-attack-machete-knife-fanatics
BRIT troops have been ordered to "scrub" their social media accounts amid fresh fears of ISIS fanatics carrying out Lee Rigby-style attacks.
« Last Edit: July 26, 2016, 12:02:55 by mariomike »