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Do REG Force and Reservists receive immunizations as a matter of deployment readiness?  I just received my next Anthrax booster, of course I can‘t tell them I don‘t want it.  :warstory:

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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2003, 10:37:00 »
Everybody who deploys is immunized according to the theater of operations. There are some standard tests run pre- and post-deployment(TB etc.) We are given shots or a regimen of pills depending on what the newest stuff the military has bought. Everybody has to take the medecine here too. There was a Navy guy a couple of years ago that didn‘t want the stuff they were giving him (for Anthrax I think), and if I remember, he got away with it. Now, if you look in the QR&Os, there is an article of discipline under the National Defense Act that specifically states that you WILL take your medecine or else. The maximum penalty is a monetary fine and jail time (two years less a day or something like that).

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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2003, 14:23:00 »
You still take it some people are given them when they are on course. I know of several gents who were at borden during the summer and had done the TB tests and had several other shots included
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2003, 17:33:00 »
I was in Borden this summer, and I had 11 needles shoved into me at various times...Just make sure you always have your immunization records on you, I was never told to bring them and they just re-gave me shots I had already had...not fun!

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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2003, 21:53:00 »
I‘m kind of wary about the military giving me vaccinations of any kind. After hearing the horror stories of experimental drugs given to soldiers as recently as Gulf War I. These soldiers are now dying from unknown illnesses and their medical records are disappearing / being destroyed.

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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2003, 22:49:00 »
there‘s a vaccine for anthrax???

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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2003, 01:43:00 »
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there‘s a vaccine for anthrax???
Anthrax is a virus that mainly affects cattle, sheep, goats etc. So yes!!! just like a polio vaccine, you can get an anthrax vaccine.

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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2003, 04:45:00 »
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[qb] I was in Borden this summer, and I had 11 needles shoved into me at various times...Just make sure you always have your immunization records on you, I was never told to bring them and they just re-gave me shots I had already had...not fun! [/qb]
I don‘t have the little card anymore   :(   the only thing I have is the actual copy of the record from the original issuer. Will this be good enough?
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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2003, 08:49:00 »
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there‘s a vaccine for anthrax???
Anthrax is a virus that mainly affects cattle, sheep, goats etc. So yes!!! just like a polio vaccine, you can get an anthrax vaccine. [/qb]
I was under the (Mistaken?) impression that anthrax was a bacterial infection?
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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2003, 12:37:00 »
First off I‘ll sort something out....

Cheechue, you are right out to lunch...
1. Anthrax is a bacterial spore (called Bacillus anthracis).
2. Nobody can give you experimental medications or vaccines without your express knowledge and consent. If you do not understand why or what people are injecting into you, then friggin ask, its your right. If they don‘t want to tell you refuse the shot until you do, or ask a MO (doctor) to explain it to you.

Ok, now with that out of the way:
On enrollment, everyone in the regular force recieves an initial battery of injections including;Tetnus and Depthiria (TD), Measles, Mumbs, and rubela (MMR), Menginacoccal Vaccine (MCV), polio, Hepatitis A & B, and Typhoid vacines to name most of them. the Turbuculosis test(otherwise know as PPD) is a test to see if you have been exposed to that TB bactirium, and is not a vaccine. It should be done at enrollment and before and after each deployment to endemic areas.

For deployment, each area is assesed with guidelines from the WHO and CDC Atlanta, to determine what is the appropriate vacination regime for the area. Troops who are deploying are then topped up on the enrollment regime and given vaccines for the area of ops. Thats why certian areas get antimalaria meds (Somalia, Cambodia) and others do not (Bosnia).

Now you can refuse a medication (any medication, not just vaccines), if you choose not to be deployed to the mission. If you choose not to deploy and the military deems you necessary to go they can (and will) intitate administrative or disciplinary action against you. Basically, don‘t want to deploy...get out.  See you always have a choice.
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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2003, 17:16:00 »
meh!! Bacteria, virus...same thing to me...

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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2004, 17:59:00 »
Hey everyone.  I was reading the week by week analysis of Basic Training by Belkin81 on the link that was provided.  I was just wonding what vaccinations they give you at Basic?  Thanks.

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« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2004, 19:11:00 »
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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2004, 21:32:00 »
Here‘s mine straight from the yellow book, although, from many, many moons ago:

Yellow fever, polio, diptheria, typhoid, adenovirus, small pox, meningitis, and one other unidentifiable one (smeared).  Not really up on my human vaccines so not sure what type of adenovirus that would be.  

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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2004, 21:39:00 »
do the Recruits on Reserve BIQ get vaccinated as well? i have no problem with vaccinations, its just i was never told about them, and im sure ive been vaccinated for most of those things in the past,

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« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2004, 22:17:00 »
unless u can proove with a vaccination record taht you‘ve got those shots that brin11 listed you‘ll get those plus Hep. A, Hep. B, TB, that‘s jsut on basic.  i hope u aren‘t afraid of needles, cause its kinda like an assembly line one after the other, and its done over several sessions.
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« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2004, 01:03:00 »
Last summer on SQ/BIQ we had to go through the battery of shots at Meaford.  Only a few objected, and they were read the riot act -- one had to prove they already had the same shots by having a family member fax the base their immunization record.

I had Hep A, Hep B, Measles/Mumps/Rubella (MMR), Tetanus/Diphtheria (TD), Meningitis, and a TB skin test all done over the summer.  (What, no polio anymore?)

They also gave us a Yellow Fever card, but apparently we only have to have the shot if we are going on tour or something, because we never got the shots.

I‘m glad I had the shots, they were free (thats a few hundred bucks worth of shots right there), and the last booster I had for anything was 1987, so I was long overdue.

What ticked me off was that I couldn‘t find my Hep B shot record from work (my employer gave me the shots a couple years ago), so I had to have it again.

But, like any large organization, the army‘s right hand has no idea what the left hand did last summer.  I was supposed to have the final Hep A shot in January, and I have contacted my sect comd about it, but haven‘t heard anything back yet.
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Re: BMQ / BMOQ - Medical, Dental, Mental health questions [Merged]
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2004, 03:02:00 »
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They also gave us a Yellow Fever card, but apparently we only have to have the shot if we are going on tour or something, because we never got the shots.
Consider yourself lucky.  We got YF during work up and that vaccination levels you for a day.  That was probably the quietest night in the shacks for the entire summer.
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« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2004, 06:13:00 »
I can concur with that Infanteer, what a day to leave your locker unlocked and have the course WO. trash the whole thing. I still have the polaroid that someone took off me passed out on the floor in front of the dryer.
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« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2004, 07:28:00 »
You guys sound like you‘re a bunch of whiney girls.  Man, after a week of marching, getting yelled at, PT, inspections, PT, inspections, getting yelled at, marching, trying to keep awake in class, getting yelled at, inspections, getting yelled at, waking up at 4:15 because Buddy beside the bunk wanted to get an early start on each and every day, getting yelled at; going for a walk to the MRI for a bunch of shots was a welcome vacation for a few hours on my course.  Remember,
sitting in the chair waiting for the medical staff to sort out the platoon is a good time to relax and enjoy the relative peace and quiet.  You will find "shots day" to be nice break in the storm.  Hehe.

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« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2004, 01:03:00 »
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[qb] You guys sound like you‘re a bunch of whiney girls.  [/qb]
I hope I‘m not included in this because I just wanted to know what the vaccinations were lol.  I don‘t care about getting them   :D

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« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2004, 21:59:00 »
Vaccinations:

Bring any and all information you have (Civilian Yellow book / Family Doctor Immunization Record) with you to basic when you go for immunizations.  This will prevent duplication of vaccination.

You will (then again they change all the time) get (unless you have gotten before and/or they are still current):

Yellow Fever
Mumps Measles Rubella (MMR = 1 shot)
Polio
Tetanus / Diphtheria (Td = 1 Shot)
Meningococcal Meningitis

and the PPD (tuberculosis) skin test

Might also get Hepatitis A or A/B Combo (I would if given the option) and / or the Influenza vaccination.  

I know Smallpox is off the list, and I am pretty sure adenovirus (4&7) and Typhoid Fever is off the list for basic (Typhoid is still a deployment vaccine).

The next hint.  Once you get your hands on your "yellow book" (although they are not yellow anymore, but rather blue) hold on to it, and do not let anyone take it from you if given the option.  If you loose it... you might be in for more vaccinations (without cause).  Trust me, treat it like your ID Card.

Hope that helps.

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« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2004, 14:34:00 »
I hate needles.  I think I have a mild needle phobia.  My last needle was grade 7.  After my shot I got up from the chair, walked three feet and completely fainted, hitting my head on the wall in the process. I woke up half an hour later on some dirty gym mat with nurses and my class mates surrounding me.  

After that they told me to always get needles lying down or the same will happen again.  Maybe I‘ll dish out the couple hundred bucks to get my shots in a hospital before I go to basic.

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« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2004, 15:20:00 »
Hey,

In St-Jean, during the vaccinations, they seperate the pers who have problems with needles and give them special treatment.. no need to worry about it.