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Re: Re: Navy Tactical Operations Group (NTOG)
« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2017, 16:14:05 »
Is Maritime Tactical Operations Group the same as Enhanced Naval Boarding Party? 

Some discussion of MTOG in, "All Things Naval Boarding Party (training, badges, etc. - merged)"

In recent years, the Royal Canadian Navy (RCN) has been a little behind the times, but lately they have really been pushing to up their game. Since their recent discipline issues and ships malfunctioning at sea, the RCN has buckled down and begun upgrading their capabilities. Recent press releases have officially announced the awarding of contracts for upgrading the current RCN fleet, replacing the Sea King helicopters, acquiring amphibious assault vessels, and building the new joint-support ship. The RCN also announced in early 2014 the creation of the Maritime Tactical Operations Group (MTOG), which could bring about a huge increase in their boarding parties’ tactical capabilities.

The Canadian Navy’s standard boarding parties have proven their worth in the past. Of note, the HMCS Toronto made a record drug bust of 280 kg of heroin during interdiction operations in the Indian Ocean in January of 2014. During the operation, the HMCS Toronto was part of an international task force that recovered a total of 538 kg of heroin. The Navy boarding parties were effective at conducting searches and detaining prisoners. The new MTOG boarding parties are trained to maintain those skills while expanding their abilities to react to threats. The purpose of the MTOG position is to “increase agility, flexibility, and tactical expertise to confront and deter a variety of threats in high-risk operational environments.”[1] This training includes increased weapons and CQB training, and advanced IED/EOD training.

The MTOG is designed to increase the capabilities of RCN boarding parties and “to fill the gap between what our special forces can do and what we need to do on our own as a navy.”[2] The MTOG selection phase is a grueling five days during which candidates are “put through a rigorous physical and mental selection process.”[3] If a candidate is successful during MTOG selection, they will then be invited to attempt the Maritime Tactical Operators Course (MTOC). The MTOG’s first operator selection phase occurred in early 2014, followed by MTOC. The first MTOC class graduated in March of 2015 and resulted in 13 operators being qualified and forming the Enhanced Naval Boarding Party (ENBP) Team 1 ....
https://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,16991.msg1391300.html#msg1391300

Sailors in the new Enhanced Naval Boarding Party (ENBP) program had one final test to complete before graduating October 29, 2015. In order to receive their Maritime Technical Operator Course certificate, each of the eight graduates was required to secure Canadian Forces Base Esquimalt, B.C., Dockyard’s Alpha Jetty. After arriving from their Albert Head training facility aboard rigid-hulled inflatable boats, the team, dressed in full fighting order, scaled the side of the dock, fanned out, did a comprehensive sweep, and then gave the all clear sign.

Afterwards was the graduation ceremony. “You are the sharp end of the spear as it pertains to boarding capabilities,” said Captain (Navy) David Mazur of Maritime Forces Pacific Headquarters. “The momentum surrounding the program is going to build in the next few years, and you are all in on the ground floor of this new program.”

The first class of 13 ENBP recruits graduated in April 2015. The graduation of this second group further advances the first phase of the Future Naval Boarding Party Capability Development outlined in the Royal Canadian Navy’s executive plan. The plan is to produce a pool of 70 to 100 ENBP graduates over the next few years.

“They are specialists, not generalists, and require an increasingly complex and high level of training to be qualified to do this job. They are better trained to deal with uncertain or chaotic situations that they may deal with in their deployments,” said Lieutenant-Commander Wilfred Lund, Officer Commanding the Maritime Tactical Operations Group (MTOG).

Graduates underwent advanced tactical training over 14 weeks that included hand-to-hand combat, improvised explosive device identification, close quarters battle, tactical shooting and advanced medical training ....
http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,16991.msg1405809.html#msg1405809

Royal Canadian Navy Introduces New Tactical Operator Position
https://sofrep.com/42945/royal-canadian-navy-introduces-new-tactical-operator-position/

After three months of intensive round-the-clock training, the first Maritime Tactical Operator Course (MTOC) graduated on March 26, 2015, and will go on to form Enhanced Naval Boarding Party (ENBP) Team 1.
http://www.navy-marine.forces.gc.ca/en/news-operations/news-view.page?doc=enhanced-naval-boarding-party-ready-for-deployment/i7ynwpwo

Enhanced training creates second group of elite Naval Boarding Party specialists
http://www.navy-marine.forces.gc.ca/en/news-operations/news-view.page?doc=enhanced-training-creates-second-group-of-elite-naval-boarding-party-specialists/ihraeqli
Sailors in the new Enhanced Naval Boarding Party (ENBP) program had one final test to complete before graduating October 29, 2015. In order to receive their Maritime Technical Operator Course certificate

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Re: Re: Navy Tactical Operations Group (NTOG)
« Reply #26 on: July 24, 2017, 18:56:32 »
Other than hard work and determination is there anything I could do to increase my chances of getting chosen to join NBP?  ::)

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Re: Re: Navy Tactical Operations Group (NTOG)
« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2017, 19:03:15 »
Yep, you can pass your medical, accept an offer, pass basic training, pass NETP and pass your QL3. Those things will really give you a leg up.

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Re: Re: Navy Tactical Operations Group (NTOG)
« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2017, 12:42:33 »
Couldn't find the ENP/MOTG post, but here's an interesting video detailing some of the selection process and training for the MTOG pers.


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Re: Re: Navy Tactical Operations Group (NTOG)
« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2017, 17:25:52 »
That is a good video but not the one that led me astray.

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Re: Re: Navy Tactical Operations Group (NTOG)
« Reply #30 on: September 29, 2017, 18:29:39 »
Couldn't find the ENP/MOTG post, but here's an interesting video detailing some of the selection process and training for the MTOG pers.



Interestingly enough the female interviewed in the video passed selection decided to decline becoming a member.
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Re: Re: Navy Tactical Operations Group (NTOG)
« Reply #31 on: July 05, 2018, 00:01:16 »
I was just wondering if MTOG has gotten any action. I tried online, but I only see that MTOG is doing training missions.
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Re: Re: Navy Tactical Operations Group (NTOG)
« Reply #32 on: July 06, 2018, 23:21:23 »

Thank you
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Re: Re: Navy Tactical Operations Group (NTOG)
« Reply #33 on: July 07, 2018, 02:03:49 »
Chief Bethel looks old AF with a beard... not at all how he looked back when we was yelling at me as a Sea Trainer!

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Re: Re: Navy Tactical Operations Group (NTOG)
« Reply #34 on: September 08, 2018, 16:52:32 »
Just wondering what this force has been doing.
Where they deployed? Did they see action?
All that I saw on the internet was that they are doing training with other forces, but what I want to know is if they are seeing action.

Also, just another thought, how elite are they? I heard they are good but I want to know if they are Navy SEAL good (of course not 6).

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Re: Re: Navy Tactical Operations Group (NTOG)
« Reply #35 on: September 08, 2018, 17:29:49 »
Also, just another thought, how elite are they? I heard they are good but I want to know if they are Navy SEAL good (of course not 6).

These guys are not CANSOFCOM.  Nor are they comparable to units such as USN SEALs that have different mission, and are trained/employed for far more than what NTOG does.
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Re: Re: Navy Tactical Operations Group (NTOG)
« Reply #36 on: September 08, 2018, 19:11:09 »
What have they done so far?

Have they seen combat?

How elite are they (are they like Navy SEAL's)?

The internet is limited with information about MTOG. I hope you all can help.

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Re: Re: Navy Tactical Operations Group (NTOG)
« Reply #37 on: September 08, 2018, 19:25:28 »

What have they done so far?


A lot of training. Some boardings.


Have they seen combat?


Define combat. Have they encountered aggresive people during a boarding? Probably. However, they are not a combat unit.


How elite are they (are they like Navy SEAL's)?


Looooooooooool no. They do not belong to Canadian Special Operations Forces Command (CANSOFCOM).

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Re: Re: Navy Tactical Operations Group (NTOG)
« Reply #38 on: September 08, 2018, 20:41:27 »
Looooooooooool no. They do not belong to Canadian Special Operations Forces Command (CANSOFCOM).

They are trained by folks from the sneaky peakies, of course.

And if I had to clear a ship I'd rather do it with a team of well trained sailors as they know the layout, nooks and crannies at better than even your best trained Army people do.
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Re: Re: Navy Tactical Operations Group (NTOG)
« Reply #39 on: September 08, 2018, 22:49:46 »
They are trained by folks from the sneaky peakies, of course.

And if I had to clear a ship I'd rather do it with a team of well trained sailors as they know the layout, nooks and crannies at better than even your best trained Army people do.

They also get regular practice driving RHIBs in the ocean as opposed to Lake Ontario  8)

Good capability and glad the RCN is finally catching up to everyone else.

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Re: Re: Navy Tactical Operations Group (NTOG)
« Reply #40 on: September 09, 2018, 00:49:05 »
Just FYI, we are calling them NTOG these days -  changed Maritime to Navy at some point recently.

You might find more info about them by using NTOG as the search term
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Re: Re: Navy Tactical Operations Group (NTOG)
« Reply #41 on: September 09, 2018, 06:49:02 »
What have they done so far?

Train; with some operational time embedded in deployed ships

Have they seen combat?

As a unit no, but individuals may have combat experience from past employment

How elite are they (are they like Navy SEAL's)?

They are a step between a ships boarding team and SOFCOM, no where near the l33tness of SEALS or JTF

The internet is limited with information about MTOG. I hope you all can help.
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Re: Re: Navy Tactical Operations Group (NTOG)
« Reply #42 on: September 09, 2018, 11:48:47 »
The internet is limited with information about MTOG. I hope you all can help.

The top four or five video's are all about NTOG.  Including them on exercise.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=naval+tactical+operations+group

As some have stated before they were born out of CANSOFCOM and the RCN getting together to create a higher level boarding party.  There was a gap between JTF2 anti-terrorist type boardings and the RCN's traditional ship boarding party.  NTOG is designed to fill that gap.   As well there were perceived issues with using ships company in boardings on deployment.  They were either getting burned out or were unavailable for their "normal" duties onboard.  NTOG is deployed with a ship and boardings is all they do.

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MTOG Boarding party units
« Reply #43 on: December 04, 2018, 16:25:35 »
Hey dudes, i am currently primary army reserves (infantry) been serving for 8 years now. I would like to go reg force navy and request an occupational transfer(?) With my chain of command. The marine tactical operator group really appeals to me, anyone know if they still actively training for positions for boarding party units, if so-any advice what steps i should take to put my name in to become a candidate for selection/training etc. (I know i would have to do a standard qualification course for naval stuff first, or whatever it is called now lol. Recently it was merged with DP1 for army after BMQ. Not sure if that is the same with Navy)

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Re: MTOG Boarding party units
« Reply #44 on: December 04, 2018, 16:50:18 »
Hey dudes, i am currently primary army reserves (infantry) been serving for 8 years now. I would like to go reg force navy and request an occupational transfer(?) With my chain of command. The marine tactical operator group really appeals to me, anyone know if they still actively training for positions for boarding party units, if so-any advice what steps i should take to put my name in to become a candidate for selection/training etc. (I know i would have to do a standard qualification course for naval stuff first, or whatever it is called now lol. Recently it was merged with DP1 for army after BMQ. Not sure if that is the same with Navy)

Get trade qualified first then apply.
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Re: MTOG Boarding party units
« Reply #45 on: December 04, 2018, 20:25:52 »
...The marine tactical operator group really appeals to me, anyone know if they still actively training for positions for boarding party units, if so-any advice what steps i should take to put my name in to become a candidate for selection/training etc.

To be honest, if I were you I’d submit your application with something other than ‘PewPewDIEf#%!Pew’, but that might just be me.

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Re: Navy Tactical Operations Group (NTOG)
« Reply #46 on: March 07, 2019, 15:53:05 »
Hello, I’m in the final steps of joining the navy and have been browsing around at the different career opportunities. I was reading this, and I see that the Enhanced Naval Boarding Party isn’t CANSOFCOM. So out of curiosity I was wondering how they determine their pay scale? Do the members of the boarding party qualify for such allowances as the “special operations allowance”? Or are they paid based on the their original trade? I’m not sure if this is a dumb question or not so sorry if it is, again I was just curious.

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Re: Navy Tactical Operations Group (NTOG)
« Reply #47 on: March 07, 2019, 16:30:05 »
Hello, I’m in the final steps of joining the navy and have been browsing around at the different career opportunities. I was reading this, and I see that the Enhanced Naval Boarding Party isn’t CANSOFCOM. So out of curiosity I was wondering how they determine their pay scale? Do the members of the boarding party qualify for such allowances as the “special operations allowance”? Or are they paid based on the their original trade? I’m not sure if this is a dumb question or not so sorry if it is, again I was just curious.

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NTOG is not a special force capability and its members do not get special operator's allowance. NTOG is a niche, conventional maritime capability force generated from naval tradespeople.

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Re: Navy Tactical Operations Group (NTOG)
« Reply #48 on: March 07, 2019, 16:55:52 »
I see so their pay would be the same as the rest of their naval counterparts? (Aside from spec pay trades)
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Re: Navy Tactical Operations Group (NTOG)
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