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Re: The US Presidency 2019
« Reply #325 on: April 14, 2019, 18:41:09 »
If anyone is interested here is a link to the Gregory Craig indictment. And if anyone is Craig was in private practice when he was hired by Ukraine and had nothing to do with Obama.
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Re: The US Presidency 2019
« Reply #326 on: April 14, 2019, 18:45:49 »
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Cortez was a bartender in October and is, suggested, to have already made her first million.

Really? I remember her bitching about money after she was elected about not being able to afford an apartment for the month or two wait until her government paychecks started rolling in.
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Re: The US Presidency 2019
« Reply #327 on: April 14, 2019, 19:01:32 »

I want to see Pelosi's. She collects her government wage, around $195,000, I think,  but has somehow amassed approx. $196 million.

While Pelosi is no a pauper by any means but her net worth is a lot worse then your estimate.

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Since Nancy Pelosi has been appointed her prestigious position of Speaker of the House, she has been reported of having a net worth of $29 million. That may seem like quite a lot of money for any government official that gets paid $223,500 a year, however, it is not just her political positions that have earned her such an impressive income. Nancy, along with her husband, Paul Pelosi, hhasspent many years investing in high-end commercial real estate. They own several different properties together that they rent out to other companies for a hefty price each year.

In addition to their commercial properties, the Pelosi’s also own quite a few residential properties that Nancy and her family can either use as a vacation home or rent to other residents as she sees fit. So, it is unclear exactly just how much money the two are making from their properties. Although the $29 million evaluation is a close estimation, it is safe to assume that she and her husband will not have to worry about money troubles any time soon.

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At least Nancy and her husband got there fortune honestly, not by an illegal tax scheme engineered by someones father, nor by bamboozling officials or stiffing contractors.
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Re: The US Presidency 2019
« Reply #328 on: April 14, 2019, 19:12:05 »
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s actually net worth (at present):

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After Ocasio-Cortez defeated Rep. Joe Crowley in the primary in June and won the general election in November, she said in an interview with the New York Times that she was worried about paying for an apartment in Washington, DC, before her $174,000 annual congressional salary kicked in.

According to public records, she had $15,000 in savings in 2018, which should have been more than enough to pay for a $2,700 average apartment in Washington DC.

$174,000 is a very healthy paycheck for anybody in America, not to mention for a 29-year old as of 2019.

The median household income in America for 2019, after all, is only about $62,000 ($72,000 is the average income). See the chart below by the US Bureau of Census.
Real median household income in America chart

According to AOC’s communications director at the end of 2018, Ocasio-Cortez had around $7,000 in savings. Where the rest of her $15,000 in savings went, it’s hard to know. Perhaps she spent her money on moving expenses and preparation for her new government position.

She made about $26,600 in 2018, and she’s paying off somewhere between $15,000 – $50,000 on her student loan debt.

Her student loan debt is huge because she attend Boston University, one of the most expensive private schools in the country that has a 2019/2020 tuition of over $53,000. Kind of strange going to such a school given she’s a Democratic Socialist.

Despite only having around $7,000 in savings, Ocasio-Cortez is actually fairing better than the median 29-year who has just $2,430 in savings, according to a story by CNBC in 2018.

Given AOC doesn’t own property, and does not look like she owns any stock either, her current net worth is likely around $0 given her student loans cancel out her savings.

But don’t worry, Ocasio-Cortez will likely becoming one of those millionaires she despises within the next 10 years.


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Re: The US Presidency 2019
« Reply #329 on: April 15, 2019, 05:58:36 »
I'm really not sure why the author seems to think it odd that a "democratic socialist" would want to attend one of the best schools in the country. She and the rest of the hard left crowd, while still far too left to be good for America (IMO) , are not full blown communists. Wanting the millionaires of the world to do better and be better, and wanting their to be no more millionaires at all, are two extremely different positions. Maybe she plans on leading by example.

AOC has done and said more than a few things in the news that have made me cringe, but I think the authors position misses the mark.
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Re: The US Presidency 2019
« Reply #330 on: April 15, 2019, 19:33:42 »
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Re: The US Presidency 2019
« Reply #331 on: April 18, 2019, 11:19:17 »
Mueller Report
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« Reply #332 on: April 18, 2019, 11:46:49 »
Mueller Report Volume 1 of 2.

https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

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Re: The US Presidency 2019
« Reply #333 on: April 18, 2019, 15:09:19 »
Interesting.  Nothing earth shattering though.

Of note is his staff refusing to follow his orders.  Likely saving him.

One way or another, releasing the report isn't going to quiet down either side.
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Re: The US Presidency 2019
« Reply #334 on: April 18, 2019, 18:23:51 »
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Re: The US Presidency 2019
« Reply #335 on: April 18, 2019, 18:50:04 »
The slime oozes everywhere in that doc.
I wonder if it is enough for the GOP to smack Trump with a mackeral by moonlight for the 2020 run.
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Re: The US Presidency 2019
« Reply #336 on: April 18, 2019, 18:59:16 »
So no bombshells.  And people are left to decide for themselves whether Trump was a man guilty of (something?) trying to obstruct justice, or an innocent man trying to get investigators to openly clear him so he could move on with being president.  The first theory suffers from an absolute lack of real effort to obstruct anything meaningfully, but I can see from the articles and comments that a lot of people are having trouble letting go of it.
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Re: The US Presidency 2019
« Reply #337 on: April 18, 2019, 19:53:41 »
So no bombshells.  And people are left to decide for themselves whether Trump was a man guilty of (something?) trying to obstruct justice, or an innocent man trying to get investigators to openly clear him so he could move on with being president.  The first theory suffers from an absolute lack of real effort to obstruct anything meaningfully, but I can see from the articles and comments that a lot of people are having trouble letting go of it.



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Re: The US Presidency 2019
« Reply #338 on: April 18, 2019, 22:58:59 »
I agree with Victor Davis Hansen

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Re: The US Presidency 2019
« Reply #339 on: April 19, 2019, 08:13:05 »

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Re: The US Presidency 2019
« Reply #340 on: April 19, 2019, 11:49:24 »
Just a quick request.

The two pdf volumes of the Mueller report are neither searchable nor capable of being highlighted. Anyone with Adobe Acrobat Pro should be capable of converting the documents. Here's how you do that:

https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/18/18484973/adobe-acrobat-pro-character-recognition-searchable-text-pdf

If anyone has the tools, time and inclination to do that and to post them here, it would make our task of reviewing the actual documents much easier.

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Re: The US Presidency 2019
« Reply #341 on: April 19, 2019, 12:31:48 »
Been doing a lot of reading, but here are a couple for people who want to read something contrary to what we might expect from each of the "blue" and "red" bubbles, in the (perhaps faint) hope that a contrary view contains more useful facts, conclusions, and opinions:

Glenn Greenwald at the Intercept

David French at NRO
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« Reply #342 on: April 19, 2019, 13:22:32 »
Been doing a lot of reading, but here are a couple for people who want to read something contrary to what we might expect from each of the "blue" and "red" bubbles, in the (perhaps faint) hope that a contrary view contains more useful facts, conclusions, and opinions:

Glenn Greenwald at the Intercept

David French at NRO

Good job picking those two poles as examples.

This reminds me of a quote from Andrew McCabe's book The Threat:

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For law enforcement, a sufficiently fractured public conversation can pose a mortal threat. When a population loses any sense of a shared story—when each segment of a population believes that only its own perceptions are valid—then that population can become ungovernable.

Whether you think McCabe was treated shabbily by the administration or think he's the devil incarnate, one can't disagree with that position. That quote speaks volumes about the current situation in the US and why the Russians are doing what they are doing. The fact that Trump feeds this chaos for his self-aggrandisement is the principle reason I think that he is unfit to be the President.

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« Reply #343 on: April 19, 2019, 13:35:06 »
That quote speaks volumes about the current situation in the US and why the Russians are doing what they are doing. The fact that Trump feeds this chaos for his self-aggrandisement is the principle reason I think that he is unfit to be the President.

For reference to the discussion,

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National Post

As Mueller investigation ends, experts see one winner after two years of American chaos: Putin

A Kremlin campaign to destabilize American democracy has inflamed partisan tensions and eroded public confidence
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/as-mueller-investigation-ends-experts-see-one-winner-after-two-years-of-american-chaos-putin

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Putin laughs at political chaos in the US
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-39957800/putin-laughs-at-political-chaos-in-the-us








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Re: The US Presidency 2019
« Reply #344 on: April 19, 2019, 13:38:40 »
Just a quick request.

The two pdf volumes of the Mueller report are neither searchable nor capable of being highlighted. Anyone with Adobe Acrobat Pro should be capable of converting the documents. Here's how you do that:

https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/18/18484973/adobe-acrobat-pro-character-recognition-searchable-text-pdf

If anyone has the tools, time and inclination to do that and to post them here, it would make our task of reviewing the actual documents much easier.

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These findings, from the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, detail his two-year investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. The document has been redacted by the Justice Department.
 
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/04/18/us/politics/mueller-report-document.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

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Re: The US Presidency 2019
« Reply #345 on: April 19, 2019, 13:42:02 »
Read the Mueller Report: Searchable Document and Index
BY THE NEW YORK TIMES APRIL 18, 2019
These findings, from the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, detail his two-year investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. The document has been redacted by the Justice Department.
 
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/04/18/us/politics/mueller-report-document.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

I found those but can't highlight or annotate them as I can with a converted pdf. I'm just the kind of anal retentive guy that likes to go through stuff like this with a fine tooth comb. Highlights rule!

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« Reply #346 on: April 19, 2019, 17:59:23 »
A Republican  Senator had this to say,

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Mitt Romney says he’s ‘sickened’ and ‘appalled’ by Mueller report details
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« Reply #347 on: April 19, 2019, 19:03:00 »
A Republican  Senator had this to say,

That's one Republican ... unfortunately there are 62,984,827 to go.

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« Reply #348 on: April 19, 2019, 19:14:03 »
That's one Republican ... unfortunately there are 62,984,827 to go.

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