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Offline MJP

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Re: Meet the GM Defense ISV Army Truck
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2020, 13:07:39 »
Billy B did indeed change me, Jim.

Watch me with my cattle when we are doing a paddock move and one falls back "Come on you ****, quite your dogf*cking and keep up"

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In who whould have thunk that, he know works at one of the Conflict and Complaint Management centers.
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Re: Meet the GM Defense ISV Army Truck
« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2020, 13:15:58 »
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In who whould have thunk that, he know works at one of the Conflict and Complaint Management centers.

I told Billy B that’s a good place for him - he caused a lot of complaints from higher. 👍 We loved him lol
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Re: Meet the GM Defense ISV Army Truck
« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2020, 13:17:38 »
I told Billy B that’s a good place for him - he caused a lot of complaints from higher. 👍 We loved him lol

If this is guy I am thinking of, he taught my Basic Para Course.  Jeepers.

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Re: Meet the GM Defense ISV Army Truck
« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2020, 13:20:36 »
If this is guy I am thinking of, he taught my Basic Para Course.  Jeepers.

That would most likely be him, he is quite memorable.
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Re: Meet the GM Defense ISV Army Truck
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2020, 16:03:55 »
If this is guy I am thinking of, he taught my Basic Para Course.  Jeepers.

Most likely.

There is quite a family dynamic. His dad took the US Army Ranger course at the age of 42, and passed.

I was quite surprised when Billy B asked me to be one of his section commanders on a BIQ we ran in 1994 that included Army Rick as a candidate.

Off topic...sorry.

Regarding the weight of under 5000 pounds, my Ram fully fuelled is well over 6000.
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Re: Meet the GM Defense ISV Army Truck
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2020, 16:09:25 »
The new Rams are probably the nicest trucks out there, IMO.

But if I was looking to bash around off road, I'd take a ZR2 with duramax. And the ISV is essentially that on steroids. Can't really be compared to your run of the mill Colorado.

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Re: Meet the GM Defense ISV Army Truck
« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2020, 16:42:30 »
It’ll be the GM DuraMax 2.8L straight-four. The engine is actually VM Motori’s A428 high-pressure common-rail diesel, built for GM under contract.  Fuel is easy...JP8/multi-fuel...no need to handle ME Gas separately.

I had this engine in a Jeep...it was a beast!  Each cylinder is almost as big as a 750cc motorcycle.  I could tow a 5,000lb trailer no problem.  Torque out the wazoo - more than 300ft-lbs.  In this platform, power and grunt shouldn’t be an issue....only space will be. ;)

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Re: Meet the GM Defense ISV Army Truck
« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2020, 16:45:33 »
You could put 18 of me in one of these things.

You sir, win the Internet for the rest of the day! ;D

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Re: Meet the GM Defense ISV Army Truck
« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2020, 17:11:34 »
You could put 18 of me in one of these things.

I damn near inhaled a cup of coffee. Jerk.

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Re: Meet the GM Defense ISV Army Truck
« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2020, 17:23:15 »
So, 5000lbs / 18 = 275 pounds?
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Re: Meet the GM Defense ISV Army Truck
« Reply #35 on: July 16, 2020, 18:01:39 »
Giv er take a few stone
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Re: Meet the GM Defense ISV Army Truck
« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2020, 21:40:43 »
Strategypage:

Armor: The Off-Road Revolutions

https://strategypage.com/htmw/htarm/articles/20200715.aspx

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July 15, 2020: In June 2020 the U.S. Army selected the GM (General Motors) candidate for the new, lightweight, ISV (Infantry Squad Vehicle). The two other competitors were familiar with special operations vehicles, the GD (General Dynamics) Flyer 72 and a variation of the old SOCOM (Special Operations Command) favorite, the Polaris DAGOR. SOCOM was already using Flyer 72 and DAGOR and the competition between these two vehicles for special operations orders worldwide led to the ISV competition. The army took advantage of a new fast-track acquisition program that allows new items to be selected (via competition from existing equipment) in less than 16 months versus the usual 36-month bureaucratic marathon that often went on much longer. Each of the three ISV competitors was given a million dollars to modify their vehicle to meet army requirements. The GM entry was seen as a long shot by outsiders who misunderstood what the GM candidate was.

The third underdog competitor from GM was one of their newest and most popular off-road vehicles, the Chevrolet Colorado ZR2 Bison. This vehicle was introduced in 2016 and is the culmination of two decades of vehicle modification by individual entrepreneurs and companies like GM. All this largely unnoticed work was recognized and merged by GM into their new 21st century off-road pickup trucks. Individuals and small firms modifying commercial vehicles for special uses is something that has been around for decades. Think of this as “vehicle hackers” and you have an accurate view of what is happening. The Chevrolet Bison was very much the right hack showing up at the right time. Vehicle designers in GM saw the army ISV contract, looked at the Bison and it didn’t take long (at least on the computer design software) to turn the Bison into the GM ISV. Removing the commercial shell and the Bison becamer the ISV, with a modified diesel engine and a few tweaks to the suspension and other mechanical components.

Rest of the article on link. The ISV is surprisingly affordable, especially when you consider the cost of the G-Wagon was almost the same in 1990 dollars. Certainly jumping aboard right now and getting a long production run and economies of scale by buying the ISV to replace the G Wagon and MilCOT would be a useful and sensible solution to both Regular and Reserve mobility.
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