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RIP to the victims.

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Suspect in custody after Brookside Drive-area shooting leaves at least 4 people dead


One suspect is in custody in connection with an early-morning shooting in a residential area of Fredericton that has left at least four people dead.

Police are telling residents to avoid the Brookside Drive area as they "investigate an ongoing incident." They confirmed in a tweet there were four fatalities.

"More information will be available when we can confirm," Fredericton police tweeted.

Police also asked that the public not post any information about the position or activities of police or first responders.

 "We are still working an active incident. We will release confirmed information as soon as we can," police said.

Shortly before 9 a.m., 237 Brookside Drive in Fredericton was evacuated by police.

Christopher Gill woke up to a number of police officers and the sound of gunshots outside his apartment at 237 Brookside Dr.

"I looked out the window and there were three police cars on the street just across from where I live," he said. "I saw one cop just standing against the building … like he was waiting for somebody to come out."

On Twitter, Horizon Health Network said Dr. Everett Chalmers Regional Hospital is on high alert, and is prepared to receive any victims and help the community in any way needed.

Premier Brian Gallant also tweeted, "We are all shocked and saddened to learn this morning of the ongoing tragic incident in Fredericton."

Gallant offered condolences, thoughts and prayers to victims and their families.

"During this difficult time, our thoughts are also with the courageous women and men on the front lines working to keep us safe," he said.




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2 police officers among four dead in Fredericton shootings

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Fredericton police say they have a suspect in custody after at least four people -- including two of their police officers -- were killed in a shooting in a suburban area of the city this morning.

Police tweeted the news of the arrest at about 9:45 a.m. and confirmed at about 10:3o that two members of their force were killed.



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Crap, condolences to the friends, comrades and family of the officers.

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I read this in my news summary.Prayers out to the families of those folks who were killed or wounded.

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Two officers identified in Fredericton shooting

Fredericton police have identified two police officers who were among four people killed in a shooting today in a residential area on the city's north side.

Police Chief Leanne Fitch says the victims include Const. Robb Costello and Const. Sarah Burns and two civilians -- a man and a woman -- who remain unidentified.

Jackie McLean, Costello's wife, says a police inspector told the family this morning that her common-law partner was among the dead.

McLean says the couple had been together for four years and Costello has two adult daughters from a previous relationship.

The shooting incident began at about 7 a.m. at an apartment complex on Brookside Drive.

Fredericton police have one person in custody who was being treated for serious injuries.

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Apparently she was not very happy with him.............

https://globalnews.ca/news/4392057/fredericton-widow-justin-trudeau/


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https://globalnews.ca/news/4392057/fredericton-widow-justin-trudeau/

"I called him a piece of s**t.”

How many families of homicide victims in Canada receive condolence calls from the Prime Minister?

"In 2016, police reported 611 homicide victims in Canada, 2 more than the previous year."
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/171122/dq171122b-eng.htm

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"I called him a piece of s**t.”

How many families of murder victims in Canada receive condolence calls from the Prime Minister?

"In 2016, police reported 611 homicide victims in Canada, 2 more than the previous year."
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/171122/dq171122b-eng.htm

Not arguing with you, however it was not exactly a "common" homicide....and no I am not saying one is worse than the other......


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Not arguing with you, however it was not exactly a "common" homicide....and no I am not saying one is worse than the other......


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I wasn't arguing either, Larry.

Thousands will be attending the funerals of the two police officers.

Doesn't sound like Mr. Robichaud wanted much of a fuss or send-off, anyway.

And he won't be getting one,

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An obituary published earlier this week said there would be no visitation or funeral for Donnie Robichaud in keeping with his wishes.

Melissa Robichaud said she was getting ready later Thursday to scatter Donnie’s ashes. She said they had been married for 16 years before separating last December.

“It’s what he asked for, we talked about it,” she said. “He didn’t want a funeral, he wanted nothing to do with church … he didn’t want a memorial or anything like that. He wasn’t a religious man whatsoever and that was just him.”

“I’m taking his ashes along a strip that we all used to take on the bikes and letting them go,” said Melissa.

END QUOTE

Cheers.  :)
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I'm not sure why the media is tracking that story, honestly.  I think it was in bad taste, and I'm no fan of Justin T.

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Apparently she was not very happy with him.............

https://globalnews.ca/news/4392057/fredericton-widow-justin-trudeau/

This part caught my attention. More than whatever she says she said to the PM,

“So I said so what. They wear a vest, they carry a gun, that makes them more important than one of us?"



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I'm not sure why the media is tracking that story, honestly.  I think it was in bad taste, and I'm no fan of Justin T.

This is no shot at JT, but it has become fashionable for politicians to insert themselves in situations like this. And they do it at there own peril, because they are dealing with highly emotionally charged situations. People are, occasionally, going to say things that aren't polite.

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Her ex-husband was a member of Bacchus MC so I’m sure the police and government were all real popular figures in their household.

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Let me take a crack at the reason the medias are tracking this story.

And let's start by stating (not in a negative way, BTW) that mariomike's reaction to the story and the part that struck him are indicative of the "clannish" blindness to the general population that is often found in uniformed LEOs and people working closely with them. They feel anything appearing to "bring them down to everybody's level" as an attack on them.

That is not the case.

So let's see here: No, it is not common for victims of homicides to get a condolence call from the Prime Minister. And neither is it common for the families of LEO's killed in the course of their duty to get them - or visit - from the PM, at least not before the actual funeral if the PM attends.

However, in the present case, the PM (and in my view, most likely his handlers who thought it would be a nice PR "coup" with the election beginning to loom) decided to come down to the location of a quadruple homicide. Yet, he then elected to meet with only two of the families of the victims, which happens to be the families of the two LEO's, but not the last two, one of which he then calls by phone the day after from Ottawa, and fourth he apparently hasn't even called yet, but will soon.

Well, I am sorry, but if you decide to bother to come down to the scene, common human decency and minimal "class" dictates that you meet and threat every victim's family the same. LEO's have no superior call on the PM's sympathy than any other Canadian. In fact, to Canadian who are non-LEO and their families, this very deportment of the PM seems to say that  LEO's lives matter (to use current vernacular) more than those of ordinary Canadians.

And that, my friends is both the reason for the person's lashing at the PM and why it is a newsworthy story. If the PM wants to play the "look at me, I am so sympathetic to people's pain" game, then he has to do it for all Canadian, not just those who will give him the best tweets/30 seconds TV spot.

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Incredibley insensitive and calous move by the PM for the sake of trying to score points.

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And let's start by stating (not in a negative way, BTW) that mariomike's reaction to the story and the part that struck him are indicative of the "clannish" blindness to the general population that is often found in uniformed LEOs and people working closely with them. They feel anything appearing to "bring them down to everybody's level" as an attack on them.

That is not the case.


Since this discussion is in the Emergency Services forum, not the Canadian Politics forum, my thoughts were with the fallen officers.

Speaking of which,

'A bond made by the badge': First responders arrive in Fredericton for funeral
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/first-responders-arrive-funeral-1.4789422

Funeral honours Fredericton officers that made ‘ultimate sacrifice’
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2018/08/18/thousands-of-first-responders-to-attend-funeral-for-fallen-fredericton-officers.html

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I feel like I'm missing something here...I'm sure there's a detail somewhere in the articles that I missed.

2 police officers were murdered.  The PM called the families to offer condolences & support for them - which I imagine is pretty customary when an LEO is killed in such a manner.

And the widow - while understandably angry & grieving - calls him a POS and says it's distasteful...??


I think I'm missing something?  Or am I just reading this wrong?    ???
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Two police officers were killed and two nearby civilians.

The Prime Minister felt it was necessary to personally meet the families
of the two fallen officers. That was his excuse for only calling to offer
condolences to the two civilian families.

Mrs Robichaud, the wife of one the civilians killed was offended by the PM's priorities
and told him, without censoring.
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Ah.  Thanks - I knew I must have been misunderstanding something. 
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The gent in question, Donnie Robichaud, was a full-patch member of the Bacchus outlaw motorcycle gang until about a year ago. They're akin to the HA or Outlaws out in eastern Canada. Probably no love lost between that family and the government or police... Though nothing I've seen suggests this was anything more than coincidental to the shooting. Still, it will be interesting to learn in time whether this attack was targeted in any way and what the motive may have been.
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Let me take a crack at the reason the medias are tracking this story.

And let's start by stating (not in a negative way, BTW) that mariomike's reaction to the story and the part that struck him are indicative of the "clannish" blindness to the general population that is often found in uniformed LEOs and people working closely with them. They feel anything appearing to "bring them down to everybody's level" as an attack on them.

That is not the case.

So let's see here: No, it is not common for victims of homicides to get a condolence call from the Prime Minister. And neither is it common for the families of LEO's killed in the course of their duty to get them - or visit - from the PM, at least not before the actual funeral if the PM attends.

However, in the present case, the PM (and in my view, most likely his handlers who thought it would be a nice PR "coup" with the election beginning to loom) decided to come down to the location of a quadruple homicide. Yet, he then elected to meet with only two of the families of the victims, which happens to be the families of the two LEO's, but not the last two, one of which he then calls by phone the day after from Ottawa, and fourth he apparently hasn't even called yet, but will soon.

Well, I am sorry, but if you decide to bother to come down to the scene, common human decency and minimal "class" dictates that you meet and threat every victim's family the same. LEO's have no superior call on the PM's sympathy than any other Canadian. In fact, to Canadian who are non-LEO and their families, this very deportment of the PM seems to say that  LEO's lives matter (to use current vernacular) more than those of ordinary Canadians.

And that, my friends is both the reason for the person's lashing at the PM and why it is a newsworthy story. If the PM wants to play the "look at me, I am so sympathetic to people's pain" game, then he has to do it for all Canadian, not just those who will give him the best tweets/30 seconds TV spot.


Totally agree with everything your saying here OGBD.  I'm not wading into the good or bad on the PM argument - I think you hit the nail on the head with your statement above 100%.


That being said, there is a big difference between an LEO & a fully patched member of a biker gang - who, as a fully patched member, probably has an interesting criminal history. 

I'm not saying they matter less than LEO's or anything in the grand, spiritual experience of life.  But I can see why the PM's handlers were probably more inclined to contact & meet with the LEO families, and still thought the gesture of a supportive phone call to the other families was adequate.

I'm not siding with the PM - but most families of murder victims don't even get a phone call.  So a supportive phone call from the PM is a nice gesture, even if he meets with the families of the uniformed members who died while on duty.  I can see the optics from the civilian families though, sure - although as a fully patched member of a biker gang, I don't think he can be lumped in with 'ordinary Canadians'. 


**Just to be clear, I don't care one way or the other on this.  I truly don't.  Not a huge fan of the PM, but also try to look at things from the other side fairly also.  As I said, I don't really take a side on this either way.  Tragedy either way.
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Court to decide whether one jury or two needed in Fredericton shooting case

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Published Monday, June 1, 2020 8:22PM ADT

FREDERICTON --A hearing will begin Aug. 17 to determine if a Fredericton man facing four counts of first-degree murder is fit to stand trial, but a judge still needs to decide whether the case will require one jury or two.

Matthew Raymond is accused of killing civilians Donnie Robichaud and Bobbie Lee Wright, and Fredericton Police constables Robb Costello and Sara Burns, on Aug. 10, 2018.

Defence lawyer Nathan Gorham told the court Monday he wants the same jury for the fitness hearing and the trial, with a delay of just a few days between the two.

Gorham has repeatedly warned that fitness "waxes and wanes," and if Raymond is found fit, the trial should proceed soon after.

Fitness means that an accused understands the charges against them and the consequences of the case, and is capable of instructing their lawyer.

Crown Prosecutor Claude Hache said he wants the trial to begin September 28 with a separate jury, allowing time to prepare the Crown's case and arrange witnesses.

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https://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/court-to-decide-whether-one-jury-or-two-needed-in-fredericton-shooting-case-1.4964416



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Alleged mass shooter Matthew Raymond goes on trial today in Fredericton

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FREDERICTON --The murder trial for a Fredericton man charged in the 2018 fatal shootings of four people in the New Brunswick capital begins today.

Matthew Raymond faces four counts of first-degree murder in the deaths of Fredericton Police constables Robb Costello and Sara Burns as well as civilians Donnie Robichaud and Bobbie Lee Wright, on Aug. 10, 2018.

Raymond was deemed unfit to stand trial, but a jury last month reversed that decision.

A jury needed just one hour to determine Raymond is fit to instruct his defence counsel and that he understands the charges he's facing.

The same jury is being used for his murder trial.

The province has said Raymond's trial will be the first full jury trial in Canada since the COVID-19 pandemic began, and it is being held in a large convention room to allow for physical distancing.

https://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/alleged-mass-shooter-matthew-raymond-goes-on-trial-today-in-fredericton-1.5105118
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