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Re: The Wearing and Location of The Poppy- Uniform/Civilian
« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2004, 10:46:31 »
I have worn my poppy on my tunic and will keep it there.  I think that regardless of where it is placed, it still means the same thing.  We will remember them.  I do agree that the loss of tradition is a sad thing.  If it's a matter of tradition then it needs to be addressed to a higher power.  I can agree that the headdress is a good place for it.  The previous arguments support that you need only one poppy if it's on your lid.  There are others however, that maintain that poppies are more easily lost from the headdress.  The only part of wearing on the tunic that I dislike is that fact that you need several poppies and they almost always get crushed or ripped of while take off or putting on layers.  I like the pin idea.  Going to see if I can find a few like that.  To Inch-  do you think the higher ups would support a badge sewn onto the lapel or rank slip on for use during the 2 weeks prior to Nov. 11th?  If it's sewn on it's not FOD.  Just a thought.

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Re: The Wearing and Location of The Poppy- Uniform/Civilian
« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2004, 11:16:29 »
Our CSM told us yesterday that the poppy will be worn over the left breast pocket this year. And the middle of the poppy must be original, no Maple Leaf button. It seems to change every year.
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Re: The Wearing and Location of The Poppy- Uniform/Civilian
« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2004, 11:40:38 »
Out unit informed us that Oct 29 was the first day the poppy could be worn up to 2 weeks after Nov 11.

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Re: The Wearing and Location of The Poppy- Uniform/Civilian
« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2004, 11:55:01 »
Yes-that stupid pin on the poppy-when is somebody going to apply some technology to that? Or...is it a case of "lose one, buy one...?"

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Re: The Wearing and Location of The Poppy- Uniform/Civilian
« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2004, 12:33:06 »
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It's something our American friends are missing out on, I think.
 

Actually, the various groups (DAV, VFW, American Legion) do sell poppies here every year around Veteran's Day. Admittedly, it's not nearly as prevalent here as it is in Canada. Also, the poppies are a lot different...
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Re: The Wearing and Location of The Poppy- Uniform/Civilian
« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2004, 13:02:24 »
Really? I had no idea....

Here's hoping it catches on.

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Re: The Wearing and Location of The Poppy- Uniform/Civilian
« Reply #31 on: October 29, 2004, 16:27:38 »
To Inch-   do you think the higher ups would support a badge sewn onto the lapel or rank slip on for use during the 2 weeks prior to Nov. 11th?   If it's sewn on it's not FOD.   Just a thought.

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I would say that getting something sewn on for 2 weeks every year would be a huge hassle. With the new flight suits we don't sew anything on ourselves, so you'd have hundreds of guys bringing stuff into the tailor to be sewn that we're only going to wear for 2 weeks.  I like the badge idea and that could work, all badges on the green flight suits are velcro'd on, it'd be super simple to replace one of our badges with a velcro'd poppy badge.

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Re: The Wearing and Location of The Poppy- Uniform/Civilian
« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2004, 16:35:07 »
Just a suggestion, but for those worried about the poppy falling off or getting stuck, why not go to a craft store, buy the blank pin with safety backings and glue the green centre of the poppy to the front of the pin. I'm not sure if it would be allowed, but just a suggestion.  :)

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Re: The Wearing and Location of The Poppy- Uniform/Civilian
« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2004, 17:02:51 »
In civies I use a small Canadian flag in the center - it has a proper pin
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Re: The Wearing and Location of The Poppy- Uniform/Civilian
« Reply #34 on: October 29, 2004, 17:15:38 »
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Just a suggestion, but for those worried about the poppy falling off or getting stuck, why not go to a craft store, buy the blank pin with safety backings and glue the green centre of the poppy to the front of the pin. I'm not sure if it would be allowed, but just a suggestion

     I've dont this before, and it works well.
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Re: The Wearing and Location of The Poppy- Uniform/Civilian
« Reply #35 on: October 29, 2004, 21:06:27 »
head dress for me.

As for the General that was concerned about what people thought of himself and his Poppy? All I would say is I don't need some plastic flower to help me remember, as everyday is November 11th for me.

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Re: The Wearing and Location of The Poppy- Uniform/Civilian
« Reply #36 on: October 30, 2004, 00:34:24 »
I'm glad to have stimulated so much discussion on this interesting topic but no one has even attempted to answer my question?  Which is:

Does (did) the navy wear the poppy on their white-tops (& now berets)? Or is it purely an army thing?

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Re: The Wearing and Location of The Poppy- Uniform/Civilian
« Reply #37 on: October 30, 2004, 10:01:25 »
I'm glad to have stimulated so much discussion on this interesting topic but no one has even attempted to answer my question?   Which is:

Does (did) the navy wear the poppy on their white-tops (& now berets)? Or is it purely an army thing?

Okay - in the absence of anybody who can answer from a pre-unification historical perspective (i.e. when the RCN swabbies wore a more real, traditional naval uniform), I know the CF Dress Manual showed naval pers in DEU wearing the poppy on their white, peaked "forage" caps.
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Re: The Wearing and Location of The Poppy- Uniform/Civilian
« Reply #38 on: October 30, 2004, 23:44:26 »
Ah, thanks very much then.  This is where I'll attempt to wear it tomorrow & see if I can at least 'stimulate some discussion' (how's that for a euphemism for 'jacking-up'!).

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Re: The Wearing and Location of The Poppy- Uniform/Civilian
« Reply #39 on: October 31, 2004, 00:23:52 »
Being a DINASOUR I don't ever recall wearing a POPPY on my uniform, headdress or whatever. While serving in the army I don't ever recall wearing a POPPY. I was more concerned wether we were going to wear Greatcoats and gloves or just Battledress for the Remembrance Parade, it can be darn cold in November. My personell preference for civilian dress is to wear it on the lapel. I have replaced the dark centre of the issue poppy with a small Canadian Flag that is available from your MP it also has a better fastening device. You have to consider guys that I go back to the 50s. I'm not against anything new but as a civilian I will do things the way I please.

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Re: The Wearing and Location of The Poppy- Uniform/Civilian
« Reply #40 on: November 01, 2004, 23:24:59 »
I wear this little badge all year round on my lapel. :cdn: :salute:
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Re: The Wearing and Location of The Poppy- Uniform/Civilian
« Reply #41 on: November 03, 2004, 00:06:51 »
I like the badge idea and that could work, all badges on the green flight suits are velcro'd on, it'd be super simple to replace one of our badges with a velcro'd poppy badge.


I was speaking to a friend of mine today who is ex-military.  He suggested that you wear the poppy year round as a show of respect for those who served and gave their lives for their country.  Not a bad idea I think.  In keeping with the badge idea INCH I think a Velcro strap could be placed on the left chest permanently and then the poppy would have it's own place to stay when authorized.

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Re: The Wearing and Location of The Poppy- Uniform/Civilian
« Reply #42 on: November 03, 2004, 00:11:46 »
I like the badge idea and that could work, all badges on the green flight suits are velcro'd on, it'd be super simple to replace one of our badges with a velcro'd poppy badge.


I was speaking to a friend of mine today who is ex-military.  He suggested that you wear the poppy year round as a show of respect for those who served and gave their lives for their country.  Not a bad idea I think.  In keeping with the badge idea INCH I think a Velcro strap could be placed on the left chest permanently and then the poppy would have it's own place to stay when authorized.

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Re: The Wearing and Location of The Poppy- Uniform/Civilian
« Reply #43 on: November 03, 2004, 00:32:11 »


If I see someone wearing a poppy in May, I just presume he's a moron who forgot to take it down, sort of like the idiots who keep Christmas lights up year round. You could celebrate your birthday every month too, I guess, but wouldn't it come to mean pretty much nothing? Once a year is special - doesn't mean we forget the rest of the year, we just focus our attention as a nation once a year. Unless you want an extra day off at Christmas, of course, in which case you're allowed to forget....

I wasn't attempting to place less importance on the remembrance as in the "Christmas Every Day" syndrome.  I was just passing on an idea.  My proposal to INCH was that the spot of Velcro be added to the flightsuit to allow for placement of the poppy for the authorized two week period of wear.  Not looking to make an all year event out of wearing the poppy.  I like seeing it show up at the end of Oct. every year.  Lets you know that people are still thinking about the past and the current soldiers serving.

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« Reply #44 on: November 03, 2004, 15:09:25 »
I think a poppy badge for flightsuits would be a great idea, though I doubt an extra strip of velcro for something only worn a couple weeks per year is practical. The poppy could be used in place of one of the usual shoulder patches. The main step would be to get an exemption for the badge from the "badges must be green" rule so that a red poppy badge could be worn (an olive green poppy just wouldn't look right). I can't see anyone seriously opposing that, so it just needs someone to pony up and spend some time to do the ceremonial cutting of the red tape.

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Re: The Wearing and Location of The Poppy- Uniform/Civilian
« Reply #45 on: November 03, 2004, 16:58:47 »
Storm, I agree, having a piece of velcro sewn on that's only going to be used for 2 weeks every year doesn't seem worth it. You hit it bang on with the low vis badges too. Unfortunately I'm up to my neck in CH124 Operating instructions and that ball isn't going to be set in motion by me.

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« Reply #46 on: November 03, 2004, 18:25:14 »
When my father was in the CF, I am told he wore the poppy on his forage cap and beret. :salute:
It would be nice if they brought that tradition back in the CF.

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Re: The Wearing and Location of The Poppy- Uniform/Civilian
« Reply #47 on: November 06, 2004, 03:28:22 »
I'm just wondering how to properly wear a poppy in civillian dress? I can't seem to find anything that says how to.   :cdn:
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Re: The Wearing and Location of The Poppy- Uniform/Civilian
« Reply #48 on: November 06, 2004, 03:41:23 »
There isn't any rule for civilians wearing it, but traditionally it's worn on the left lapel (if in a suit) or somewhere on the left chest. That being said, it's really a personal choice. Anywhere you want is fine in civvies so long as it's not disrespectful, since as a reservist when you're not on duty/in uniform you're on your own time and considered to be a civilian. Much more so than gifts, it's the thought that counts.

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Re: The Wearing and Location of The Poppy- Uniform/Civilian
« Reply #49 on: November 08, 2004, 09:41:06 »
I usually wear the poppy on my left lapel like Storm said I think that it looks best there. :salute:
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