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Re: Logistics Officer - Sea [Merged]
« Reply #300 on: February 17, 2018, 14:09:10 »
I am an AHOD right now and am more than willing to assist here. If you have any amplifying questions then let me know.

Coursing takes place at CFB Borden, generally starting around 1 June and wrapping up early December (with a break in the middle for about 6 weeks where you return to your home unit). During the time in Borden the courses are split up into Logistics Officer Course Common, Logistics Officer Course Sea, and the Supply and Finance specialty courses. The exact length of the courses has changed since I was there 3 years ago, but it takes roughly 6-7 months to complete those courses.

After completing these courses, Sea Logistics Officers reach their Occupational Functional Point and are employed in either Esquimalt or Halifax. Depending on the backlog to get an AHOD this can be up to 18 months. The wait time is getting better as we are now doubling up AHODs on the ships. The AHOD is one year long and finishes with the ALGA board (HOD Qualification) after which one could either remain on the coast or get posted inland. This could mean going to Borden to teach, Ottawa to work in Naval Staff, ADM (ABCDEF...) or in the Joint world or any other spot a Naval Logistician is needed.

Depending on succession planning you may or may not get selected for a HOD tour a few years later.

WRT promotions... first year as a commissioned officer will be as A/SLt, then 2 years as a SLt and then promoted to Lt(N). There is no requirement beyond time in rank and completing the coursing in order to get promoted.

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Re: Logistics Officer - Sea [Merged]
« Reply #301 on: February 17, 2018, 14:19:46 »
I heard a rumour that some of the surplus junior LogOs might be posted to the NAVRES HMCS units as AdminOs.
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Re: Logistics Officer - Sea [Merged]
« Reply #302 on: February 17, 2018, 14:58:06 »
I heard a rumour that some of the surplus junior LogOs might be posted to the NAVRES HMCS units as AdminOs.

As far as I know those will mostly be post-AHOD Lt(N)s, but I could be wrong.

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Re: Logistics Officer - Sea [Merged]
« Reply #303 on: February 17, 2018, 15:15:03 »
Makes sense to me. It would be refreshing to have a full time LogO as my AdminO.
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Re: Logistics Officer - Sea [Merged]
« Reply #304 on: February 17, 2018, 16:27:06 »
I am an AHOD right now and am more than willing to assist here. If you have any amplifying questions then let me know.

Coursing takes place at CFB Borden, generally starting around 1 June and wrapping up early December (with a break in the middle for about 6 weeks where you return to your home unit). During the time in Borden the courses are split up into Logistics Officer Course Common, Logistics Officer Course Sea, and the Supply and Finance specialty courses. The exact length of the courses has changed since I was there 3 years ago, but it takes roughly 6-7 months to complete those courses.

After completing these courses, Sea Logistics Officers reach their Occupational Functional Point and are employed in either Esquimalt or Halifax. Depending on the backlog to get an AHOD this can be up to 18 months. The wait time is getting better as we are now doubling up AHODs on the ships. The AHOD is one year long and finishes with the ALGA board (HOD Qualification) after which one could either remain on the coast or get posted inland. This could mean going to Borden to teach, Ottawa to work in Naval Staff, ADM (ABCDEF...) or in the Joint world or any other spot a Naval Logistician is needed.

Depending on succession planning you may or may not get selected for a HOD tour a few years later.

WRT promotions... first year as a commissioned officer will be as A/SLt, then 2 years as a SLt and then promoted to Lt(N). There is no requirement beyond time in rank and completing the coursing in order to get promoted.

Thanks so much! Exactly what I was looking for. 3 years to Lt(N), that is great. I am not sure if I will make it for June 19 but for June 20 for sure. I am a NCM (Based in Esquimalt) with 8 years in. Have been trying UTPNCM with no luck. We will see what happens this year. If unsuccessful, I have LWOP coming up to finish my Economics degree and I will graduate in December 18. I will look at different options at that point. Even if I have to wait till June 20, that will give me lots of time to work on a MBA as well as CPA courses. That is the direction I want to go. If you have suggestions, please let me know :)

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Re: Logistics Officer - Sea [Merged]
« Reply #305 on: February 18, 2018, 01:35:37 »
Makes sense to me. It would be refreshing to have a full time LogO as my AdminO.

Hey now what are saying? NWOs can't hack it in the job?  :threat:
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Re: Logistics Officer - Sea [Merged]
« Reply #306 on: February 18, 2018, 07:20:15 »
More like they shouldn't have to.
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Re: Logistics Officer - Sea [Merged]
« Reply #307 on: February 18, 2018, 11:04:52 »
More like they shouldn't have to.

Oh, well, in that case, I'm quite looking forward to meeting my LogO replacement. :nod:
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Re: Logistics Officer - Sea [Merged]
« Reply #308 on: February 18, 2018, 11:48:21 »
Hey now what are saying? NWOs can't hack it in the job?  :threat:

Do NAVRES units still have NWOs doing the Admin function, when there's...wait a minute...an entire trade dedicated to stuff like that?   ???
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Re: Logistics Officer - Sea [Merged]
« Reply #309 on: February 18, 2018, 12:30:55 »
Do NAVRES units still have NWOs doing the Admin function, when there's...wait a minute...an entire trade dedicated to stuff like that?   ???

Perhaps given that the CO and XO and Class-A, someone at NAVRES thought they needed to employ those with superior leadership skills...  ;)
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Re: Logistics Officer - Sea [Merged]
« Reply #310 on: February 19, 2018, 10:13:22 »
Another interesting option for Naval Logistics Officers (preferably post-AHOD) is to become an Ammunition Technical Officer.  It can be a real blast!
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Re: Logistics Officer - Sea [Merged]
« Reply #311 on: May 30, 2018, 13:01:44 »
Hello,
I tried to find information concerning Log O(Air Force) , but I couldn't. Are there folks who graduated recently ?
As I learnt from this topic there are 3 steps in Log O (Air Force) training. I need to know the details how it was.

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Re: Logistics Officer - Sea [Merged]
« Reply #312 on: May 30, 2018, 17:45:25 »
I am an AHOD right now and am more than willing to assist here. If you have any amplifying questions then let me know.

Coursing takes place at CFB Borden, generally starting around 1 June and wrapping up early December (with a break in the middle for about 6 weeks where you return to your home unit). During the time in Borden the courses are split up into Logistics Officer Course Common, Logistics Officer Course Sea, and the Supply and Finance specialty courses. The exact length of the courses has changed since I was there 3 years ago, but it takes roughly 6-7 months to complete those courses.

After completing these courses, Sea Logistics Officers reach their Occupational Functional Point and are employed in either Esquimalt or Halifax. Depending on the backlog to get an AHOD this can be up to 18 months. The wait time is getting better as we are now doubling up AHODs on the ships. The AHOD is one year long and finishes with the ALGA board (HOD Qualification) after which one could either remain on the coast or get posted inland. This could mean going to Borden to teach, Ottawa to work in Naval Staff, ADM (ABCDEF...) or in the Joint world or any other spot a Naval Logistician is needed.

Depending on succession planning you may or may not get selected for a HOD tour a few years later.

WRT promotions... first year as a commissioned officer will be as A/SLt, then 2 years as a SLt and then promoted to Lt(N). There is no requirement beyond time in rank and completing the coursing in order to get promoted.

Do you know how long the LogO courses for Army PRes are?  ex. June 1st-?

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Re: Logistics Officer - Sea [Merged]
« Reply #313 on: May 31, 2018, 11:06:49 »
Hello,
I tried to find information concerning Log O(Air Force) , but I couldn't. Are there folks who graduated recently ?
As I learnt from this topic there are 3 steps in Log O (Air Force) training. I need to know the details how it was.

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If I recall correctly, they are:

1)  Phase 1:  Sleep Deprivation - How to get by on only 10 hours of uninterrupted sleep per night.

2)  Phase 2:  Dress and Deportment - How to look cool in a leather "flight" jacket that you're not allowed to wear while flying

3)  Phase 3:  Hotel Selection - Why four stars are insufficient for operational requirements
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Re: Logistics Officer - Sea [Merged]
« Reply #314 on: May 31, 2018, 11:26:32 »
If I recall correctly, they are:

1)  Phase 1:  Sleep Deprivation - How to get by on only 10 hours of uninterrupted sleep per night.

2)  Phase 2:  Dress and Deportment - How to look cool in a leather "flight" jacket that you're not allowed to wear while flying

3)  Phase 3:  Hotel Selection - Why four stars are insufficient for operational requirements
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Re: Logistics Officer - Sea [Merged]
« Reply #315 on: May 31, 2018, 11:44:10 »
If I recall correctly, they are:

1)  Phase 1:  Sleep Deprivation - How to get by on only 10 hours of uninterrupted sleep per night.

That does sound challenging.  :orly:

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2)  Phase 2:  Dress and Deportment - How to look cool in a leather "flight" jacket that you're not allowed to wear while flying

LogO could wear the RCAF Leather jacket on flights, they wouldn't be in a crew position.   8)  Bring on the PAX LCF!

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3)  Phase 3:  Hotel Selection - Why four stars are insufficient for operational requirements

Ya!  See? Some people get it. 

Don't forget that no chocolate mint on the hotel pillow is a basis for a grievance!

A grievance is so much paperwork and effort and...stuff...though.  It's much simplier to just go with a good 'ol fashion temper tantrum...

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Re: Logistics Officer - Sea [Merged]
« Reply #316 on: June 02, 2018, 23:08:51 »
Hey! So I recently got accepted into the Logistics Officer(Air) trade through the UTP-NCM program and I was wondering if anyone out there is familiar with how you choose a field/specialty to work in? I understand that there are many places LogO's can be employed including Finance, HR, Supply, Air Movements, Food, Transport etc. Do new LogO's get to choose where they would like to focus their attention or is it just a general pool that you get placed in different positions throughout your career in different specialties?

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Re: Logistics Officer - Sea [Merged]
« Reply #317 on: June 03, 2018, 05:17:00 »
You're right. If you follow the Air stream, as a LogO, you'll travel allot. Be ready to allow for tight quarters. If you're getting prepared for your course, brush up on your use of Chrome.  :rofl:
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Re: Logistics Officer - Sea [Merged]
« Reply #318 on: June 03, 2018, 05:20:53 »
Hey! So I recently got accepted into the Logistics Officer(Air) trade through the UTP-NCM program and I was wondering if anyone out there is familiar with how you choose a field/specialty to work in? I understand that there are many places LogO's can be employed including Finance, HR, Supply, Air Movements, Food, Transport etc. Do new LogO's get to choose where they would like to focus their attention or is it just a general pool that you get placed in different positions throughout your career in different specialties?

If I recall correctly, my army and air force colleagues selected their specialty course during Logistics Officer Course (Common) while in Borden. You will have your pick of Finance, HR, Supply (and maybe one more that I am forgetting before my first coffee). Movements and Foods are further sub-specialities that you can take after completing your initial specialty. I don't recall anything about Transport to be honest.

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Re: Logistics Officer - Sea [Merged]
« Reply #319 on: August 10, 2018, 15:00:19 »
A question about LogO training, employability, promotions and EPZs.

As I had it explained, a LogO reaches OFP after their elemental LOC. So, for an Army officer, after LOC(L) they reach OFP. Is this correct? The conflict of information comes from this: Staff at CFLTC are saying that upon completing LOC(L), LogOs are employable, and promotable. The home unit is stating that promotion only occurs after the specialty course. Can anyone shed light on who is correct? No one has been provided information WRT specialty courses at this time though it seems not everyone will be loaded onto their specialty during this run of courses and will have to do it later.

No critique of the system either way, just trying to get some information with something backing it. It would seem to me that if someone reaches OFP they are then capable of being promoted (assuming they have entered their EPZ)

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Re: Logistics Officer - Sea [Merged]
« Reply #320 on: August 13, 2018, 17:03:38 »

Edit: I'm not on DWAN at the moment... so DPGR is hard to reach

Not sure that the Director Personnel Generation Requirements will be of much help to you. They have nothing to do with the questions you are asking
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Re: Logistics Officer - Sea [Merged]
« Reply #321 on: August 13, 2018, 17:13:25 »
Not sure that the Director Personnel Generation Requirements will be of much help to you. They have nothing to do with the questions you are asking

DPGR holds the Occupational Specifications for all CAF occupations, and thus has the answer to the question being asked about OFP.
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Re: Logistics Officer - Sea [Merged]
« Reply #322 on: August 13, 2018, 19:29:09 »
DPGR holds the Occupational Specifications for all CAF occupations, and thus has the answer to the question being asked about OFP.

Ack. And I was actually able to get my hands on the document. I should have edited my post to say such.

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Re: Logistics Officer - Sea [Merged]
« Reply #323 on: August 24, 2018, 12:01:02 »
DPGR holds the Occupational Specifications for all CAF occupations, and thus has the answer to the question being asked about OFP.

Not generally.  They only have the specs on the occupations they are currently studying and they get them from the occupation managers.  At least that was how we did it when I worked there.
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