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I am currently in the middle of a component transfer from reserve infantry to reg force field engineer.  Can anyone give me an idea of what to look forward to/ prepare for?
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Re: Information on Combat Engineers (formerly Field Engineers)
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2001, 18:20:00 »
I would like to know a little bit about the Field Engineer too. I thought I read somewhere on a different site that they plan attacks, and decide like how to destroy stuff. I read the other posts and they fight in front of the Infantry and clear objects and stuff. And how long do you have to train to become a field engineer. do you have to go to college/ university to become one?
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Re: Information on Combat Engineers (formerly Field Engineers)
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2001, 01:59:00 »
By the text book the roll of the Engineers is "To assist freindly troops to live, move and fight, and to deny the same to the enemy."  The second role of the Engineers is "To fight as infantry."  To fulfill these roles there are five groups of Engineer tasks:

Mobility: natural and artificial obstacle breaching/destruction, construction and maintenance of bridges and roads.

Counter Mobility: Emplacement of obstacles, barriers and mines for rear area security, flank protection, or to deny the use of terrain to the enemy.

Enhance Survivability: the removal of battle feild hazzards (mines and UXO), assistance in cam & concealment, conduct of non-electronic deception, and the construction of field fortifications for the protection of personel and equipment.

Sustainment Engineering: vertical and horozontal construction (buildings, roads, & airfields), provision of utilities (water and elcetricity), rear area restoration, and maintence of lines of comunication (roads, railways, & bridges).

Geomatics: surveying and mapping.

With the technical stuff aside lets get to the heart of the questions.  Yes, the engineers are often fighting forward of the infantry and armour.  We often lead the other combat arms into battle.  Prior to an assult, Engineers may spend the night crawling through the aproaches , proding for and clearing mines and setting charges destroy obstacles.  Or, engineers can plow through right at the front of the assult in the Armoured Engineer Vehicle (AEV) and leave an obstacle free path for tanks and APC‘s to follow.

While Engineers do not plan the attack, they do provide a major roll in advising the comander where and how breaches can be made, where obstacles should be placed, what types of obstacles should be employed, and any other engineering capabilities.  This advice will have a significant impact on how the battle is conducted.

Do you need university or collage?  Only if you plan to join as an officer, in which case a BEng of BEngSci is desired.  If you join as an NCM you will eventually recieve the equivalent to a collage education through your training (however, you will not get a fancy diploma to hang on your wall).

What can you expect?  A lot of heavy lifting.  Engineers build a lot of prefabricated bridges (MGB and ACRROW) which require the lifting of some very heavy pannels.  Uperbody strength is an asset on a bridge build (and if you are tall you can expect to be doing more lifting as the short people cannot always reach the top pannels).  You can also look forward to working with construction equipment, and (everybody‘s favorite) explosives.  Engineers are the demolitions experts of the army.

SoF, another aspect you may be intrested in is the Combat Diver.  This is the Exclusive domain of Army Engineers.

And, finaly, here is some additional information taken from the recruiting website and links to the site.

 
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Field Engineer (041)
 
 The role of the Field Engineers (FD ENGR) is to assist their own troops to live, move and fight on the battlefield, and to deny enemy troops the same ability. As combat troops, they are an important member of the Infantry/Armour/Artillery/Field Engineer Combat Arms team on the battlefield.
The men and women employed in this occupation can be compared to various tradespersons in a large and versatile construction firm; however, they work under far more difficult and challenging conditions.

What They Do:
 
Construct accommodations in the field;
Construct runways;
Construct and maintain roads, airfields, heliports, bridges, causeways and rafts;
Construct and maintain buildings for the protection of personnel, equipment, aircraft and vehicles;
Construct field defences and obstacles;
Provide drinking water by testing, purification, filtration and construction of local distribution systems;
Detect and dispose of land mines, booby traps and bulk explosives;
Deny enemy mobility on the battlefield by demolishing roads and bridges, and laying minefields and booby traps;
Demolish enemy roads, airfields and buildings
Maintain engineering equipment, weapons, vehicles and supplies;
Provide engineer communications on the battlefield; and
Fight to protect themselves, or in an infantry defensive role in land battles, when required.
 
In combat and training situations, Field Engineers works under very demanding physical conditions, outdoors and exposed to the elements for extended periods, day and night.  However, during non-combat and non-training times, working and living conditions are similar to other military personnel—living at home or in barrack type accommodation.
Working conditions often include risk of bodily injury and exposure to noise, vibration, dust or fumes.  Mental stress can be high when working under adverse conditions with explosives, mines or booby traps, or with limited time to complete an assignment.

Personnel who demonstrate the required ability and ambition will undertake advanced MOC training through formal courses or on-job training as they progress in their careers.  Specialty training may also be available.  Field Engineers who have completed their qualification level 4 can apply for the Field Engineer Equipment Operator occupation (042).  

Field Engineer (041)
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** The Field Engineer (041) and Field Engineer Equipment Operator (042) have just been reunified into Field Engineer (043).  The recruiting site has yet to be updated. **

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Re: Information on Combat Engineers (formerly Field Engineers)
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2001, 13:31:00 »
Just looking over some of the posts here and noticed the one by McG stating that 042 and 041 have been unified to 043, 043 will not come into exsitience until Jan. 2002. 042 has been unfied with 041.

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Re: Information on Combat Engineers (formerly Field Engineers)
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2001, 12:37:00 »
Engineers rule!

I was going to post stuff on what Sappers do but McG has covered it pretty well so I won‘t.  What Iike about being a Sapper is that we always do different things.  And that even at Private level you are expected to be able to think, and to improvise.  "You‘re and Engineer, you figure it out" is a common phrase at my unit.  And you do.

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Re: Information on Combat Engineers (formerly Field Engineers)
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2004, 11:06:00 »
I have a dumb question to ask but can‘t figure it out so might as well ask. I have a package with all the Combat Engineer info and the MOC is 041 but on the dnd site it‘s 043. Are there 2 different trades closely related that i missed?

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Re: Information on Combat Engineers (formerly Field Engineers)
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2004, 12:07:00 »
The MOC  041 is for Field Engineer.  It has been discontiued and been replaced by MOC 043 Combat Engineer.  Other than that I do not know the difference

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Re: Information on Combat Engineers (formerly Field Engineers)
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2004, 20:07:39 »
Hi everybody, I am currently doing a research report on different engineering careers available in Canada, and I would like to ask a few general questions about Combat Engineering. If anybody can answer these questions for me before Friday I would be very grateful. Here they are:

1. Give a general description of the daily duties of a Combat Engineer.

2. What are some personality traits or characteristics that they possess?

3. What is the pay range?

4. What is the certification required to become a Combat Engineer.


Thanks in advance to anybody that replies, as this is a very important (read: Summative) project and I need detailed information.

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Re: Information on Combat Engineers (formerly Field Engineers)
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2004, 20:27:15 »
1. A "typical day" would vary greatly depending on if the Cbt Engr is in garrison, in the field, or deployed on a mission.  A sapper in a Fd Sect will also experience life differently than a sapper in resources troop.  What do you want to know about?

3.  Same pay as every other non-spec trade in the CF.  (Do a search as the details are posted on this site)

4.  Same as the basic requirements to join the Infantry and most other trades.  (Do a search as the details are posted on this site)

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Re: Information on Combat Engineers (formerly Field Engineers)
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2004, 20:31:28 »
I need to know the duties that they perform while on a mission, some of the things Combat Engineers routinely do, not something that happens once in a blue moon...as for the others, do you know where on the site they are posted?
Oh and what about the characteristics and personality traits that Combat Engineers possess?

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Re: Information on Combat Engineers (formerly Field Engineers)
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2004, 11:28:50 »
I got most of my information from http://www.recruiting.forces.gc.ca/engraph/army/jobs_e.aspx but I have summarized it for your questions.

1. Give a general description of the daily duties of a Combat Engineer.
Combat Engineers have the following primary duties:

  - Construct and maintain roads, airfields, heliports, bridges, causeways, rafts, permanent and temporary buildings;
  - Construct field defences and obstacles;
  - Provide drinking water by testing, purifying and filtering local supplies and by constructing local distribution systems;
  - Detect and dispose of mines, booby traps and bulk explosives;
  - Deny mobility to the enemy on the battlefield by demolishing roads and bridges, and laying minefields and booby traps;
  - Maintain and operate engineering equipment, including weapons, vehicles, heavy equipment and supplies;
  - Provide engineer communications on the battlefield; and
  - When necessary, fight as infantry (includes use of personal weapons, reconnaissance and section-level tactics).

2. What are some personality traits or characteristics that they possess?
Combat Engineers should enjoy outdoor work, be physically fit and mechanically and technically oriented, and be resourceful, innovative and self-reliant in nature. They should also be good learners with good hand-eye co-ordination and manual dexterity. Above-average mathematical ability is required for promotion to the higher ranks.

3. What is the pay range?
I am not sure what the pay range is but when you first join the CF as Full-Time Regular Force you start out at about $2100 a month.
(for more info click this link http://www.recruiting.forces.gc.ca/media/pdf/Reserve_benefits_en.pdf)

4. What is the certification required to become a Combat Engineer.
Not sure what you mean by this question but visit this link and I think it will answer your questions.
http://www.recruiting.forces.gc.ca/engraph/howtojoin/eligibility_e.aspx

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Re: Information on Combat Engineers (formerly Field Engineers)
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2004, 18:41:30 »
thanks a lot, that really helped  ;D

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Re: Information on Combat Engineers (formerly Field Engineers)
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2004, 20:12:03 »
As an infantry who has worked with sappers, you guys are every bit as hard core as infantry ! It takes some serious nuts and brains to be a sapper !
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Re: Information on Combat Engineers (formerly Field Engineers)
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2005, 16:10:37 »
can you specialize in something like explosives? after takeing all basic courses ofcouse
There are many specializations you can get as an engineer:
  • Explosive Ordnance Disposal
  • Heavy Equipment
  • Bridge design & inspection
  • Combat Diving
  • Water Purification
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Re: Information on Combat Engineers (formerly Field Engineers)
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2005, 06:35:55 »
You want to know what a Combat Engineer does on a daily basis? It is really no different in garrison or on Operation or Exercise........we train. There is nothing worse then having troops sitting around in Tp Stores cleaning shovels or doing squat. Our section commanders are very skilled and are able to ramp up trg on a moments notice. As well, the parking lot of an Engineer Regiment has many many resources laying around in it that are available for trg on: Bridging Equipment (how long does it take to set up a building frame?), ropes and pulleys, trg mines, etc.

During an operation, your Tp Leadership has to have the ability to look into the future, that way they can have you rehearsing your skills so when you get a task, you are squared away. As well, Engr's posess a large quantity of equipment that requires constant trg and maintenance. For example, with the LAV 3, there is a lot of maint that is required. Mine detectors take little time to fire up so there is ample opportunity to train on those.

Just a sample........there should be no bored troops. The soldier of today is highly intelligent and by shining shovels or sitting around collecting dust does not do them justice. Challenge your men at all times.

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Re: Information on Combat Engineers (formerly Field Engineers)
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2006, 00:14:25 »
I am not sure, but a lot of this information seems to be more pertinent to NCMs than officers. Would an officer also be doing similar things or is it completely different? Thanks in advance.

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Re: Information on Combat Engineers (formerly Field Engineers)
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2006, 00:33:37 »
Well, usually they meet about 0900, water the hounds and saddle up the horses.  by about 0930 they clear the first gate, and the cry goes up that a fox has been spotted around 1000.  The hounds are released, and games afoot!  Usually the hounds bring the poor little creature to earth by approx 1100.  A leisurely ride back to the lines, after toasting Mr Todd of course.  A quick lunch of cold pheasant and champagne, then a change of mounts for a few rounds of polo.  More champers, then back to the drawring room for brandy and cigars.   Hope this helps.
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Re: Information on Combat Engineers (formerly Field Engineers)
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2006, 12:06:57 »
OK Sappers, I've got some more questions if you don't mind:

Do you have a choice in what parts of the trade you want to focus on? For example, can you specify that you want to play more of an "assault pioneer" role as opposed to a "construction" role?

Do all Sappers have to do mine clearance and IED disposal? Is there extra pay when performing dangerous EOD?

In your opinion, why are there rention issues and shortages in this trade?

I'm trying to get an idea as to what my life will be like after the initial training. I know is hard to say where I will be posted...but how soon will I be eligible to be deployed in AFG ?
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Re: Information on Combat Engineers (formerly Field Engineers)
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2006, 13:18:41 »
First, assault pioneers play amateur combat engineer, NOT the other way 'round.
   Second, you will do mine clearance/EOD work if you're tasked to do so, full stop.
   Third, there are retention issues for Sappers just like all other arms, blistering operational tempo, coupled with equipment shortages due to 40 years of ruthless budget slashing. It tends to grate on a troop after a while.
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Re: Information on Combat Engineers (formerly Field Engineers)
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2006, 21:44:44 »
Do you have a choice in what parts of the trade you want to focus on? For example, can you specify that you want to play more of an "assault pioneer" role as opposed to a "construction" role?

Combat Engineers (MOC 043) are totally different than Construction Engineers (MOC's 641 - 649). In other words, your either choose to be a Combat Engineer or a Construction Engineer Tradesman.

In laymans terms:

Combat Engineer = Mines/IEDs/EOD, Gap Crossing/Bridging, Survivability, Mobility, Heavy Equipment and all other Engineering tasks found at the tactical level of Operations
Construction Engineer = Carpentry, Plumbing/Heating, Electrical Distribution, Refridgeration/Mechanical, Electrical Generation Systems, Water/Fuel/Enviromental
 
Do all Sappers have to do mine clearance and IED disposal? Is there extra pay when performing dangerous EOD?

It is a Combat Engineers task to deal with Mines and Basic UXO/Munitions Disposal.

Combat Engineers may choose/or be chosen to attend Specialist Training to deal with IED's and Advanced EOD tasks. There is a system of extra allowances for IED and Advanced EOD tasks although I do not know all of the specifics other than it is paid per Call and not a monthly allowance. Most who choose this field are not in it for the money.

In your opinion, why are there rention issues and shortages in this trade?

There are many posts discussing this issue all over this board.

I'm trying to get an idea as to what my life will be like after the initial training. I know is hard to say where I will be posted...but how soon will I be eligible to be deployed in AFG ?

I have seen new Sappers deploy well within a year after arriving at the Unit. It all depends on where the Unit fits into the rotation schedule and your suitability and personal situation.

 
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Re: Information on Combat Engineers (formerly Field Engineers)
« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2006, 16:43:53 »
Well, I've done a search through the whole of the Engr forum, and couldn't find exactly what I was looking for.


I've spent 5 years in the Royal Engineers and am currently trying to join the CME as a combat engineer. I spent some time with some of the cdn engrs from the PRT in Kandahar last fall, and was impressed with the career profiles of most of them, nevermind their professionalism.

But basically what I'm looking for is what day-to-day life is actually like in 1 or 2 CER. Day to day tempo of work, the esprit de corps amongst the squadrons, even just the little silly differences like if each squadron has it's own bar like we do or just one generic JR's mess for the whole regiment.

How often do MACC tasks come up? I don't know if you call them the same but little constructions tasks like re-roofing a school somewhere, the kind of jobs you take on to keep the lads from oiling shovels/doing Tp store 100%'s.

How often is PT done? (Not that I'm a lazy waster, very much into doing PT) What does it normally consist of? Runs and tabs obviously, but do you also do log races, obstacle courses, equipment races, MGB races etc as part of your normal PT?

What sort of interval am I looking at between op tours/career courses/regt'l duties (if you have them). From what I've read it's pretty heavy, but at the unit I'm currently at I'm averaging 2 weeks away for every week in garrison. Sometimes with only 2 days notice.

Finally, is there any such thing as 'Career Streaming'? Meaning, if Spr Bloggs gets the chance to do his EOD course, will he then follow an EOD career path? Or if he fancies a change later on can he go Armoured. Reason I ask is it is a big retention issue right now in the Royal Engineers, most trades can vary postings between light role, air support, armoured or mech, whereas certain trades, mainly the more technical ones, may only spend 2-3 years in a field troop before being posted to MWF (basically they design everything) for the rest of their career. And whilst most of these 'tech trades' are happy to do so, quite a few joined to be combat engineers first, and rather then let them do so, the army is willing to let them go, without even considering a change in career path.

I'm asking these questions not only for myself, but a few of the other guys I know in the RE are looking to move abroad, and possible join the Canadian Forces. I'm aware of the citizenship requirement.

Thanks in advance for any replies, and apologies again if this has been covered in detail somewheres else.

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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2006, 22:14:07 »
Just so you know:

Basically what happens at the Regiment is several things.  1.  Your on Course  2.  You are Preparing for an Operation  3.  On Operation  4.  Garrison Duties  5.  On Leave.

1.  On course:  Our career courses run from 6 months which is our Section Member Course (There is talk of making it 11 months but that consolidates a Solider Qualification)  Our Sect 2 IC Course and PLQ (the portion which is not done in house) are both Approx 6 weeks and then your Section Commander course and Recce Sgt/ Ops Course which are 3 Months each.  Add that together and your a fully trained Sgt in the Combat Engineers.  Considering it takes the average guy 12 years to reach that mark that's allot of time on course and that is just the career courses.  This doesn't include the many driver courses, speciality courses IE EOD, Water Supply, BBE Op to name a few.  Add this together coupled with being an instructor in them once your PLQ qualified and it adds up quickly. 
2.  This is where we get in most of our training and it is getting better and better every year.  This winter I help with the troops conducting a live fire kill house through a prefab Afghan Village made of plywood.  Live ammo, Dynamic entry, Batsim and more!  This is 6 months of super busy, crazy late nights, long weeks and weekends getting ramped up for an operation.  If your not going on an operation chances are you are the people acting as the DS, causalities, setting up the ranges and just the general lackeys for the group going over.

3.  Operations depend on your role.  I was EOD so I dealt with IED calls and Disposal operations.  The field Troops did route designations were ERS (Engineer Response Section) and did mine clearances, and generic engineer tasks.  Hy did what Hvy does best and that is push dirt and move stuff.  We moved to Kandahar and we all became construction Engineers building WeatherHaven Shelters, offices, an Ammo Storage Compound, cough Carpentry, Walkways BATs (Big *** Tents) and just general labour.  This sounds like allot but believe me this is the rest period.  The PRT had their own different tasks which you seen when you were attached to them.

4.  Garrison Duties as I mentioned is generally the support of courses, Operations, maintenance of Equipment and stores checks.  Depending on your position IE in a field section this could mean slow days.  If you are an Ops NCO or an SQ your days are filled with putting out fires and ensuring that everything is going to plan.  This is also mainly an Officers Job plus writing up all the orders, Training Instructions etc.

5.  LEAVE!!  This is the time that we get to spend with our families.  I have a 2 year old boy who I have seen for approx 6 months of his life.  I have been on one speciality course for 3 months, 3 month career course, 2 months of work up tour training, and a 6 month tour.  Add some field time and other things that take  you away from home and you generally have why engineers are said to be burnt out and there is such a low retention rate.

On a happier note  if you are ambitious then you can make it to Sgt in 10 years with out much difficulty.  It helps to be in good shape and to be keen as we like those traits in our engineers.  If you are old and your already feeling the pain from a long life I would suggest that you not go engineer as we have a tendency to break our troops.  Hope this answered your questions.

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Re: Information on Combat Engineers (formerly Field Engineers)
« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2006, 22:30:32 »
Thanks for the informational posts Towards_the_Gap and devilins very interesting for an aspiring combat engineer like myself. Can't wait to get BMQ started.
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Re: Information on Combat Engineers (formerly Field Engineers)
« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2006, 07:51:50 »
This Rotation of five usually happens every 18-months to 2 years for an individual.  The vast majority of my peers now have 4-7 operations under their belts in the past 10 years from the Balkins to Afghanistan.  We are finally getting a reprieve once this next roto gets back as in the past 3 years there has been a Roto to Bosnia and four Rotos to Afghanistan lasting 6-7 months each and a few DART deployments.  This is the entire Regiment though and generally your in a Field Sqn or attached to it in the Support Troop.  Guys qualified Hvy equipment are usually in very high demand as well as EOD/IEDD.  In some cases members from other regiments have to fill in the deficiencies.  Like I said the engineers are hurting and thus why we have a low retention rate.

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« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2006, 21:51:15 »
But basically what I'm looking for is what day-to-day life is actually like in 1 or 2 CER. Day to day tempo of work, the esprit de corps amongst the squadrons, even just the little silly differences like if each squadron has it's own bar like we do or just one generic JR's mess for the whole regiment.
Well, whole bases shares common messes (segregated by rank, but shared across units).  The regiments all use the common messes on their respective bases.  However, while in the field most Squadron Sergeant Major maintain a canteen with pop, chips, cigarettes, and other assorted “Quickie-Mart” type products for sale.

How often do MACC tasks come up? I don't know if you call them the same but little constructions tasks like re-roofing a school somewhere, the kind of jobs you take on to keep the lads from oiling shovels/doing Tp store 100%'s.
Unlike Engineers in the UK, Engineers in Canada are either Sappers or Tradesmen (not both).  If you are one of the construction engineer trades, you could expect yourself to be regularly employed in construction projects.

How often is PT done? (Not that I'm a lazy waster, very much into doing PT) What does it normally consist of? Runs and tabs obviously, but do you also do log races, obstacle courses, equipment races, MGB races etc as part of your normal PT?
PT is daily.  At 1 CER, PT was about an hour long on at the start of every Monday, Tuesday and Thursday (there was additional time after to shower & change) and the activities typically depended on the preferences of the squadron and troop leadership.  On Wednesday the full afternoon was dedicated to sports between troops or squadrons (soccer, football, floor hockey, etc).  On Friday the first two hours were given to “combat PT” (this could be anything from rucksack marches to the squadrons racing to see which could pull an AVLB down the length of the runway faster).

is there any such thing as 'Career Streaming'? Meaning, if Spr Bloggs gets the chance to do his EOD course, will he then follow an EOD career path? Or if he fancies a change later on can he go Armoured.
Yes and No.  There used to be a separate occupation for Equipment Operators, but that has since been merged with the Field Engineer occupation to produce Combat Engineers.  In theory, any Combat Engineer could to the EOD, Diver, Hy Eqpt Op or Armd thing.  However, the Armd option only exists at 1 CER (and even there there is a desire to let it pass away quietly) and the availability of spots for the other specialties is limited by course openings.  Because there are so few EOD operators & Hy Eqpt operators, once you get in you will keep coming back.  At the same time, every Cbt Engr must eventually return to the Fd Tps for career progression.