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Organ Donation
« on: November 06, 2004, 09:29:49 »
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Re: Army Organ Donor system
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2004, 10:49:42 »
depending on if they signed some sort of papers saying we could take their organs.
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Re: Army Organ Donor system
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2004, 12:20:46 »
Because our number of KIAs every year is alarming  ::)
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Re: Army Organ Donor system
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2004, 12:32:38 »
Because our number of KIAs every year is alarming   ::)
lol, yeah, but you know what I mean... I  think we lose one guy a year about ~~~
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Re: Army Organ Donor system
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2004, 01:31:11 »
I think you'll find that it would be just like the one on your driver's licence. Even though you sign it, the decision is still up to the next of kin. In most cases it's just a formality, but they do have the last say.
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Re: Army Organ Donor system
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2004, 22:23:57 »
If the deceased soldier has authorized the use of their organs for other soldiers then I have no problem with it whatsoever.  In fact I think it's an excellent idea.  Organ donation cards are clumsy though.  How about an addition to the dog tags??

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Re: Army Organ Donor system
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2004, 10:47:47 »
I chose to donate my organs cause I won't need them when I'm dead
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2011, 21:02:26 »
I am not sure if this is the right section, feel free to move it :)

I want to donate my organs but in British Columbia organ donor registry is associated with your provincial health care  card number. When I joined, I canceled my provincial medical and have no such number. I was wondering if anybody else had the same problem and how did it get resolved?

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Re: Organ Donation
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2011, 21:08:46 »
Organ donation Card.  Google is your friend.   You could put it in your Will also.

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Re: Organ Donation
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2011, 06:58:27 »
Another poster contacted me to add that you could contact the BC Transplant Society for guidance.
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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2018, 11:08:57 »
In light of the tragedy in Humboldt SK, I decided to get off my butt and register to become an organ donor in the event that I have anything left to offer when I pass. So being in ON I went to the Ontario website and of course since I don't have a provincial health card I could register online. So I wrote an email to see if I could do it personally.

Here is their reply:

Thank you for your e-mail.

 In order to formally register in Ontario, you must have an Ontario health card. This is because the registration system is tied to Ontario health card database, and so when someone passes away we can look up using this database to see if a person is register.

 Although this is a very helpful tool, it is not the only way a person can go on to be a donor. Regardless if a person is formally, the families of all potential donors will be approached by a Trillium Gift of Life Network nurse coordinator.

 In your case, and in other cases where a person does not have an Ontario health card but resides in the province, my recommendation would be to talk with your family and let them know about your wishes. Explain why their support is important to you.

 Please let me know if you have any other questions.

 Thank you,
 XX

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A search on the DND INTRANET produces a DAOD on organ donations and transplants for living people but nothing regarding registering for donation after death. Do any of the medical folks here have any knowledge of a policy?

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Re: Organ Donation
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2018, 11:53:46 »
A search on the DND INTRANET produces a DAOD on organ donations and transplants for living people but nothing regarding registering for donation after death. Do any of the medical folks here have any knowledge of a policy?

After someone is legally dead, I believe organ donation would be a provincial policy.

This may, or may not, help,

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Please visit BeADonor.ca or call The Trillium Gift of Life Network at toll-free 1-800-263-2833 (Canada).
https://beadonor.ca/

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Re: Organ Donation
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2018, 12:06:35 »
Those were the folks I contacted.
I was hoping there was a CAF policy that would cross provincial lines. Like many things in this country, there are barriers. ???

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Re: Organ Donation
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2018, 12:20:09 »
The pan-Canadian solution would be following Trillium's advice.

Go to a lawyer and sign a limited Power of Attorney - Medical.

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Re: Organ Donation
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2018, 12:30:50 »
Interesting discussion.

Some services will even send a "harvest team" with a LUCAS Chest Compression System in an Organ Preservation Unit ( OPU )  directly to your home.

After paramedics on-scene terminate the resuscitation effort.

"Thank God, the ambulance is here.  But what's that other truck behind it...?"

 

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Re: Organ Donation
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2018, 13:38:28 »
Interesting discussion.

Some services will even send a "harvest team" with a LUCAS Chest Compression System in an Organ Preservation Unit ( OPU )  directly to your home.

After paramedics on-scene terminate the resuscitation effort.

"Thank God, the ambulance is here.  But what's that other truck behind it...?"

Ha ha. I can't remember the name of the dark comedy where organ harvesting takes precedence over you continuing living.

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Re: Organ Donation
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2018, 14:59:54 »
Ha ha. I can't remember the name of the dark comedy where organ harvesting takes precedence over you continuing living.

Thanks for taking my post in the spirit it was intended. Dark sense of humour, I guess.  :) Although OPU's are real, and no joke.

Organ donation is a noble thing.

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Re: Organ Donation
« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2018, 15:00:32 »
In light of the tragedy in Humboldt SK, I decided to get off my butt and register to become an organ donor in the event that I have anything left to offer when I pass. So being in ON I went to the Ontario website and of course since I don't have a provincial health card I could register online. So I wrote an email to see if I could do it personally.

Here is their reply:

Thank you for your e-mail.

 In order to formally register in Ontario, you must have an Ontario health card. This is because the registration system is tied to Ontario health card database, and so when someone passes away we can look up using this database to see if a person is register.

 Although this is a very helpful tool, it is not the only way a person can go on to be a donor. Regardless if a person is formally, the families of all potential donors will be approached by a Trillium Gift of Life Network nurse coordinator.

 In your case, and in other cases where a person does not have an Ontario health card but resides in the province, my recommendation would be to talk with your family and let them know about your wishes. Explain why their support is important to you.

 Please let me know if you have any other questions.

 Thank you,
 XX

 Trillium Gift of Life Network


A search on the DND INTRANET produces a DAOD on organ donations and transplants for living people but nothing regarding registering for donation after death. Do any of the medical folks here have any knowledge of a policy?

cheers!

As far as I understand, you can still get a healthcard as a CF member, I looked and didn't see anything that says you can't get the card. Of course you aren't supposed to use the card for covered health insurance through OHIP since that's supposed to be covered by CAF. But from an administrative standpoint, unless anyone can correct me, you should be allowed to get the card and register your organ donation preference.

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Re: Organ Donation
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2018, 15:11:02 »
No, you can't.

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Re: Organ Donation
« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2018, 17:10:59 »
So this CBC article came out a few days ago, and specifically addressed organ donation of CAF members: http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/organ-donor-registry-canada-humboldt-broncos-tragedy-1.4618764

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Members of the military, who carry a special kind of health card not associated with their province of residence, must fill out an end-of-life directive to give to their superior officer.

The directive is linked here: http://www.cantransplant.ca/home/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/end-of-life-wishes.pdf

Now, I personally do not agree with the wording in the directive, but is there some scope in the CAF to have a letter similar to this placed in their pers file? Granted, I think it would be difficult for those killed in combat many thousands of KMs from home to actually be able to donate vital organs, but at least there would be something there for an unfortunate non-combat death at home.

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Re: Organ Donation
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2018, 17:30:59 »
but at least there would be something there for an unfortunate non-combat death at home.

ie: In a hospital.

Outside of a hospital,

"normally, patients who die outside hospitals cannot be donors because too much time passes after the heart stops beating, the organs are unusable."
https://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/01/nyregion/01organ.html

CAF members who wish to donate an organ ( kidney ) while still living, is discussed here,

Loss of a kidney 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=40478.0
OP: "I recall hearing something about if you only have one kidney you cannot remain in the army."

From 2006,

Here are a couple of links.  The first is the policy and the second is the annex B to the first. 

Policy Statement

CF members have the same freedom to donate organs as other Canadians. Although a member of the CF will not normally be prohibited from donating an organ or bone marrow, the absence of such a prohibition should not be construed as constituting official approval. Upon receipt of a request from a living member of the CF to donate an organ or bone marrow the potential donor will be counselled/briefed by both a Medical Officer and a Legal Officer. Following an organ or bone marrow donation an appropriate period of sick leave will be authorized for the recovery period.

http://www.forces.gc.ca/hr/instructions/engraph/1004_admhrmil_e.asp#1
http://www.forces.gc.ca/hr/instructions/docs/pdf/1004_admhrmil_AnnexB_e.pdf

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Re: Organ Donation
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2018, 18:06:24 »
Ha ha. I can't remember the name of the dark comedy where organ harvesting takes precedence over you continuing living.

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Re: Organ Donation
« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2018, 18:13:24 »
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