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Policy on Clickers?
« on: April 21, 2005, 21:45:54 »
Does anyone know where I can purchase a few pair of these lil' suckers (The SNCO's at my corp have been looking into getting these)

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Re: Dress Boot "Metal Clickers"
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2005, 21:48:12 »
I doubt you'll be allowed to keep them.  Safety hazard...and if your Officers are doing their job... cadets is all about safety.

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Re: Dress Boot "Metal Clickers"
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2005, 22:03:34 »
As a follow up, you may be interested in this.  **Note** this is the Air CATO's however Army is more than likely the same.

http://cadets.ca/_docs/cato-oaic/5504_b.pdf

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Re: Dress Boot "Metal Clickers"
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2005, 22:16:33 »
It has already been approved by our RSM and I assume (and hope) he ran it by the CO so... *shrugs shoulders*


When I was a young(er) cadet my SNCO's had the "Clickers" and the effect was pretty impressive

edit: anyways still.. anyone know where I can purchase these?

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Re: Dress Boot "Metal Clickers"
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2005, 22:26:59 »
Most shoe repair shops should be able to help you out
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Re: Dress Boot "Metal Clickers"
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2005, 22:32:53 »
Again, i am sure "it's done" just given you a heads up from a supervisors perspective.  I would make sure your Chief ran it by the Brass first - before you go out and drop the cash.

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Re: Dress Boot "Metal Clickers"
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2005, 22:40:48 »
Like larry said you should be able to get them at a decent shoe repair place.  When we got ours for the RMC colour party we went to the same place I got vibrams for my combat boots.
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Re: Dress Boot "Metal Clickers"
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2005, 00:36:30 »
Again, i am sure "it's done" just given you a heads up from a supervisors perspective.  I would make sure your Chief ran it by the Brass first - before you go out and drop the cash.

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sorry to interject, but what have you supervised as an officer cadet?

The clickers, have been something in use in our regiment for years.   The only restraint being, us cheap mopes who would not go out and spend our beer money on a set.

just an observation, from what I read in your profile.

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Re: Dress Boot "Metal Clickers"
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2005, 06:15:51 »
Go to the Shoemaker and get it done. They are not illegal in the Forces, just restricted in some areas like aircraft aprons, TDM's and bulk fuel storage, etc. If your in the Army Cadets and your just using them on parades, you should be good to go. I've had them on my boots through my forty odd year carreer, from Cadets til now, and still use them.

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Re: Dress Boot "Metal Clickers"
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2005, 09:02:05 »
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sorry to interject, but what have you supervised as an officer cadet?

The clickers, have been something in use in our regiment for years.   The only restraint being, us cheap mopes who would not go out and spend our beer money on a set.

just an observation, from what I read in your profile.

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Well, let me break it down for you.  As an Officer, albeit a subordinate one till i receive my commission, i am in a supervisory position every time i am at my LHQ with cadets.  In prior threads we have talked about how everyone has a job in the CF-that's mine.  So i guess your answer is....lot's

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Re: Dress Boot "Metal Clickers"
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2005, 09:05:12 »
Well, let me break it down for you.   As an Officer, albeit a subordinate one till i receive my commission, i am in a supervisory position every time i am at my LHQ with cadets.   In prior threads we have talked about how everyone has a job in the CF-that's mine.   So i guess your answer is....lot's

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Re: Dress Boot "Metal Clickers"
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2005, 09:18:50 »
okay... so as far as it goes, most shoe repair places should do it..correct?

how much is the ballpark price of this? 20-30?
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Re: Dress Boot "Metal Clickers"
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2005, 09:35:07 »
Cheers George,

I could not have worded it better.

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Re: Dress Boot "Metal Clickers"
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2005, 09:36:54 »
okay... so as far as it goes, most shoe repair places should do it..correct?

how much is the ballpark price of this? 20-30?

I would say that is accurate.  Some places still have the "horseshoe" clickers, too, but they are not as loud or distinctive as the simple taps.
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Re: Dress Boot "Metal Clickers"
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2005, 09:42:16 »
I would say that is accurate.   Some places still have the "horseshoe" clickers, too, but they are not as loud or distinctive as the simple taps.

thanks for the help!


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Re: Dress Boot "Metal Clickers"
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2005, 10:17:16 »
Again, i am sure "it's done" just given you a heads up from a supervisors perspective.   I would make sure your Chief ran it by the Brass first - before you go out and drop the cash.

That's very good advice.  While I don't see anything in the Army Cadet dress regs against them, they are forbidden in the air cadet dress regs.  It's worth noting that the air cadet dress regs were last revised in March, and I believe the other two elements will follow shortly.  (The revision to the sea cadet dress regs is out to the regions for comments now.)  While they may be permitted today, they may not be in a matter of months, so it could be a bit of a waste of money to have them installed.

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Re: Dress Boot "Metal Clickers"
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2005, 10:19:18 »
I doubt you'll be allowed to keep them.   Safety hazard...and if your Officers are doing their job... cadets is all about safety.

Apart from sparks (and consequent fires) when working around fuel (something not usually done in one's parade boots), what is the safety hazard with these things -- slipping?

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Re: Dress Boot "Metal Clickers"
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2005, 10:29:35 »
I would think that would be the big one. But they sure do sound nice when you have a big parade ;D
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Re: Dress Boot "Metal Clickers"
« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2005, 11:15:51 »
That's what i was thinking of when i posted, a slipping hazard..."Cadet breaks hip in Santa Claus parade blah blah" LOL sparks, now that's a lot of drill, although maybe you could use magnesium...sure would look cool when marching in slow time  ;D


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Re: Dress Boot "Metal Clickers"
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2005, 11:47:47 »
From my experience with cleats, they don't raise a lot of sparks. They used to be standard issue in the forces at one time, if memory serves me right I had a pair of ankle boot and Oxford's that were double soled and had cleats on. After we were issued with them in Cornwallis, they were taken to the base shoe shop or farmed out and came back like that. I don't recall any fires starting or anyone falling from them.
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Re: Dress Boot "Metal Clickers"
« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2005, 11:53:57 »
The other safety hazard that comes from clickers is when one walks in from snowy/wet ground onto very smooth concrete (ie parade squares in an armouries) or walking on vaguely slippery surfaces - I've had them on my boots for 17 odd years, and still consciously think about how I walk when I come indoors or am parading in the winter time because things tend to be REALLY slippery at first.   It really doesn't look too cool (or feel good for that matter) when you visit the floor in a head first sort of attitude.   Well, OK, it might look cool if it's someone you really don'tlike...

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Re: Dress Boot "Metal Clickers"
« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2005, 12:17:44 »
Cleated ankle boots are/were in the system, at least as auth contracted mods.

  In 1981, with Ceremonial guard, all were issued four pair of ankle boots, two normal pair, and two pair triple soled, with Howes Oak, and large fore and aft cleats.  I wore one pair of the triple soled throgh teaching at CFRS and CFLRS as well as Regimental parades.  The other pair are still brand new, unworn.

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Re: Dress Boot "Metal Clickers"
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2005, 16:55:12 »
the Blakey's, aka. Heel Clickers were issued to us in D&C 2004, Vernon   *Thank-you to all the D&C WO's for making this possible*   we had to pay $.50 per boot to have it put on. (Courtesy of our Platoon WO's and other platoon members to cover the cost of the clickers.)

If you do nail them in yourself, dont nail them into the little holes in the heel of the boot, it messes the boots up, those holes (on the heel)   are were they nail the heel into the boot.
You can pick up the nails at your hardware store, if i remember right they were about a half inch long and had a round head, like a finishing nail. not sure maybe someone can refresh my memory

as far as rules,

Your Not allowed to wear them when traveling on an airplane, so take them of prior to going to camp or the like

goes with the bus as well, they might tolerate it at your local HQ dependin on your circumstances (ask), but they Wont tolerate it when going to and from camp

If your corps has a wooden floor for a parade square, your also not allowed to wear them as they will scuff and dent the floor, as long as its Cement or Asphault your parading on, your ok
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Re: Dress Boot "Metal Clickers"
« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2005, 23:22:33 »
$20-$30 seems pretty extreme I think I paid $8.00 for mine.
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Re: Dress Boot "Metal Clickers"
« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2005, 08:55:18 »
question for Hamiltonions...

Any recomended places to get this done?
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