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Re: Comm Res No More?
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2007, 06:46:52 »
As far as your own unit in particular goes, there's probably a reason why you haven't been doing much support of local militia units, and instead, I'm guessing you've been doing a lot of aide to civil power...

From what I remember of people if vic, a lot more aide to civil power, and due to the landscape, a lot more HF/NCCIS, vs VHF Tac Comms
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Re: Comm Res No More?
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2007, 07:58:27 »
A thought for you, don't think about how many exs you do where you support the other units in their training, but think about how many exs they actually DO that would require comms support... I know locally, most of our militia units can only manage to do 2 or 3 actual exercises large enough to require our support every training year.


Things have changed since I was an R031 back in the mid-80s. Even then, generally, we only held exercises at the Coy level. For a reserve unit, this was actually an overstrength Pl. At that level, we did our own comms, mind you with 77 sets in the sections and 524s in the trucks, it wasn't rocket science. About twice a year, the Bn would have a full EX, but again, a Res Bn was only about the size of an overstrength Coy. I never saw a Comm Res on EX with us for the four and 1/2 years I was with the militia, even on the summer concentrations.

Many years later, in '92 I was posted to LFAA HQ with the G6. They had this thing called ARCON were all the res units would get together for the concentration. It was the first time I had seen a Res BG, with all the Res units from Atlantic Area together.
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Re: Comm Res No More?
« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2007, 08:09:05 »
Just a little bit of info I had yesterday from CO.
The comms Res is going to be transfer as a whole to the land force and we wont have budget cut until the land force learn a bit more about us.  So there wont be immediate structural change.  The plan is to integrate us in the bde gradually in the next 2 years.  After that the budget and number of training day a year per head will be adjust the way the land force see it.

Could be good or bad.  My great fear is to see our number of training day cut to the level of the milicia(45 vs 80).  On the other side, i hope it does improve the level of knowledge of the bde officer about what we can do for them.  I went to Mississippi in january and on the comm side the planification was awful.  Some of the officers there didnt even know what a RRB is and used cell phone instead. Until we told them that a RRB could be made just out of to 522.

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Re: Comm Res No More?
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2007, 16:06:05 »
A thought for you, don't think about how many exs you do where you support the other units in their training, but think about how many exs they actually DO that would require comms support... I know locally, most of our militia units can only manage to do 2 or 3 actual exercises large enough to require our support every training year.

Excellent point.

As far as your own unit in particular goes, there's probably a reason why you haven't been doing much support of local militia units, and instead, I'm guessing you've been doing a lot of aide to civil power...

That is in fact what we have been focusing on recently. But, even w/ DOMOPS we still should be doing more then going R/C // L/C over and over again on ex. The only time we seem to do that is when we support other units.

From what I remember of people if vic, a lot more aide to civil power, and due to the landscape, a lot more HF/NCCIS, vs VHF Tac Comms

We are very different from Victoria, they focus on TTCC (I believe) while Nanaimo does mostly HF/NCCIS. Besides our LCT and BASERAD Dets, we exclusively do VHF Tac Comms.

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Re: Comm Res No More?
« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2007, 16:19:54 »
That is in fact what we have been focusing on recently. But, even w/ DOMOPS we still should be doing more then going R/C // L/C over and over again on ex. The only time we seem to do that is when we support other units.

Actually, you're still way off. Just because you're passing traffic doesn't mean you're getting valid training. You know the VP, move on. Beyond that, just because you're supporting the local mo' units doing tactical exercises doesn't mean you're getting all the relevant training.

Remember, you guys actually have somthing you're preparing for. Eventually, there's going to be a serious earthquake in BC. Radio recces are VERY important.

Beyond that, the ideal exercises right now involve mostly aide to civil power (Combined with SOME tactical exercises), joint exercises with local emergency response agencies, fire departments, ground search and rescue, heck, even BC Hydro if you can get them in on it.

Regardless, as has been pointed out, joining the brigade doesn't mean all the problems will be instantly solved.

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Re: Comm Res No More?
« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2007, 17:04:58 »
Beyond that, the ideal exercises right now involve mostly aide to civil power (Combined with SOME tactical exercises), joint exercises with local emergency response agencies, fire departments, ground search and rescue, heck, even BC Hydro if you can get them in on it.

         I'm forced to disagree with you on that one. We're at war. Ideal exercises are those that involve training our soldiers for overseas deployments in support of combat operations.Working in a CP supporting militia units is an excellent way to get Sig Ops to practice maintaining situational awareness of a battlespace, just like they'll be expected to do overseas. Hopefully joining the Bdes will move comms units into more of a war fighting mind set.

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Re: Comm Res No More?
« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2007, 17:10:29 »
Actually, you're still way off. Just because you're passing traffic doesn't mean you're getting valid training. You know the VP, move on. Beyond that, just because you're supporting the local mo' units doing tactical exercises doesn't mean you're getting all the relevant training.

Remember, you guys actually have somthing you're preparing for. Eventually, there's going to be a serious earthquake in BC. Radio recces are VERY important.

Beyond that, the ideal exercises right now involve mostly aide to civil power (Combined with SOME tactical exercises), joint exercises with local emergency response agencies, fire departments, ground search and rescue, heck, even BC Hydro if you can get them in on it.

I'm sorry, but I'll have to disagree. It would be nice if we could have aid to civil power exercises where we worked w/ civilian agencies but in reality that does not happen, at least not at my end.

As of right now our aid to civil power exercises involve, as I've said before, setting up a huge CP (not running it while working w/ other agencies or militia units, just setting it up and tearing down) and testing our RRB locations. Granted testing out RRB locations is very important but, when you have people in those dets who don't know how to use the equipment (our quad mount for example) how effective is the testing really? Skill fade is a huge problem.

What I'm trying to get at here is that we need to do more actual tactical (or DOMOPS) exercises with other units (civilian or militia). Doing this allows the operators to actually use and improve their skills. What we are doing right now helps nothing. Actually using the equipment for more then ten minutes and falling into det routine (while supporting other units/civilian agencies) is what we need to be doing. It gives the operators a challenge when problems arrive, it allows them to interact w/ other units, it lets them actually use the equipment, it gives them a chance to do their job, it challenges their skils. Sig Ops are not mod monkeys, they are there mainly to PROVIDE COMMANDERS AND THEIR STAFF THE MEANS TO EXERCISE COMMAND AND CONTROL. If all you do is set up giant CP's and test RRB locations when the big one hits you'll wont be able to provide anything but a well put together piece of mod and the ability to screw in an RRB cable.

Regardless, as has been pointed out, joining the brigade doesn't mean all the problems will be instantly solved.

This I agree with.

Will being a Bde asset solve some of our problems? Yes.
Will it solve all our problems? No.
Will it create more problems? Maybe

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Re: Comm Res No More?
« Reply #32 on: February 07, 2007, 17:13:22 »
         I'm forced to disagree with you on that one. We're at war. Ideal exercises are those that involve training our soldiers for overseas deployments in support of combat operations.Working in a CP supporting militia units is an excellent way to get Sig Ops to practice maintaining situational awareness of a battlespace, just like they'll be expected to do overseas. Hopefully joining the Bdes will move comms units into more of a war fighting mind set.

+1

Also a good point.

Situational awareness of a battlespace (or a domestic emergency space for that matter) is an important skill for Sig Ops. The trg we currently do does nothing to help that skill. Supporting other units does.

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Re: Comm Res No More?
« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2007, 08:18:16 »
FWIW, I have regularly participated with Comms Res & Reg types on Bde exercises.  However,  getting dets to come out on the smaller training ex at Bn & Coy level would make Comms a regular part of the scenery & we would learn how to better use the resources you have to offer.

It's a little bit like a Service Battalion that is too busy training it's own troops ... so they never go out into the field to support units on Ex.   Then they complain on large Ex when same said units don't use the resources they have to offer..... ?/?  Go figure!
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Re: Comm Res No More?
« Reply #34 on: February 09, 2007, 19:25:40 »
Wow, I read the whole post without hitting reply eventhough some points I wanted to lash out but someone had already beat me to it.   What those of you in the reserves are going through right now is what HQ and Sigs were going through 5 years ago.  Our main mandate changed from supporting only the Bde HQ to supporting the HQ and units.  This not only meant more training, it meant more realistic training.  When a unit such as the RCRs go out to do a lvl 5 or higher exercise, sigs go to support and provide a link to the Bde HQ.  Some times we would set up the CP, sometimes we would just remote it into the HQ's building.  Logging of information and tracking of training was done in real time in a method that most will see overseas.  We may use a different radio (522 vs 117) but the VP and shift working is more along what would be done in Afghanistan or during an Aide to Civil Authority/Power Ex.  The only unit in the comms world who is a bit different (inject your laughter here) is the Regiment in Kingston.  They support missions through broad band satcom from command elements on the ground to command elements in Ottawa.  This involves some special training and therefore, different consideration.  They are also asked to support all branches of the military.  Right now, they support mainly army formations but don't forget, Mirage is Airforce.  As for funding, if the exercises are conducted properly, the units using the resourse ussually pay for that resourse.  Therefore, if the N Sask R in Saskatoon uses the comms reserves to run a CP for them during an exercise, the pay for those soldiers, the fuel for their generators and vehicles and allowences should come from their budgets.

What is a bigger concearn for me being reg force, is the trg level of the people coming to us from the reserves.  We get some good soldiers, mainly adequet soldiers and some horrible ones just like what we have in the units.  The problem is highlighted though because of a lack of training/experience of these same soldiers.  We had reservists with us both in Kingston and Pet.  For the most part, these soldiers worded hard to become competant soldiers in the field (I use that term loosely for all my friends still at the Regiment as I include you in that trainting).  Unfortunately, the soldiers need time to get to the level we need them to work at which takes time, money and resourses (read the other topics for more on this).  We both need the reserves to work more with the regs as well, to come out and see how we do things, see what we stress and see if your training is meeting or exceeding ours.  For ex/ we had an ex in Ottawa where the reserve det was attached to us who took 45 min to back up their trailer, started to set up their sleeping accommidations before the HQ and didn't crack the door to the back of their truck until well after 1 hr of arriving in loc.  We told them that this was unacceptable and they said that was the way their unit did things.  They obviously didn't realize that the RSS Sgt who was in their unit had just came from our unit.  He didn't see it that way.
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Re: Comm Res No More?
« Reply #35 on: February 09, 2007, 19:45:56 »

What is a bigger concearn for me being reg force, is the trg level of the people coming to us from the reserves.  We get some good soldiers, mainly adequet soldiers and some horrible ones just like what we have in the units.  The problem is highlighted though because of a lack of training/experience of these same soldiers.  We had reservists with us both in Kingston and Pet.  For the most part, these soldiers worded hard to become competant soldiers in the field (I use that term loosely for all my friends still at the Regiment as I include you in that trainting).  Unfortunately, the soldiers need time to get to the level we need them to work at which takes time, money and resourses (read the other topics for more on this).  We both need the reserves to work more with the regs as well, to come out and see how we do things, see what we stress and see if your training is meeting or exceeding ours.  For ex/ we had an ex in Ottawa where the reserve det was attached to us who took 45 min to back up their trailer, started to set up their sleeping accommidations before the HQ and didn't crack the door to the back of their truck until well after 1 hr of arriving in loc.  We told them that this was unacceptable and they said that was the way their unit did things.  They obviously didn't realize that the RSS Sgt who was in their unit had just came from our unit.  He didn't see it that way.

Was the location at NDMC? And did this ex happen about 2 yrs ago?
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Re: Comm Res No More?
« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2007, 18:45:53 »
well... practice makes perfect.  If you don't include practice in your formula - you won't get perfection.

Radop, you are absolutely correct, there are Heros & Zeros in the Regs AND the Res.  Because the Res guys have less practical experience, their weaknesses are magnified BUT, the reservists bring some skill sets that their Reg counterparts don't necessarily have.

One of my former NCOs was deployed to BH sometime around '94 or 95,  slated as a section 2 i/c in one of the rifle platoons, someone suddenly caught on that this guy was a senior electronic tech with CAE.... and suddenly he was "otherwise occupied" for the duration of his deployment.
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Re: Comm Res No More?
« Reply #37 on: February 24, 2007, 21:35:13 »
I just signed up for an account I ran across this thread, so I guess I'll weigh in.
Having spent time in both the Militia (Infantry) and the Comm Res (Sig Op), I have seen the best and worst of both organizations.

WRT Comms Spt provided by Comm Res units to Bde and Area Ex, for the most part the Comm Res Tps have stepped up to the plate, and done fine job providing CPs, Signallers, etc. I think part of the problem lies in a lack of experience coordinating the expected training outcomes of a combined exercise. It seems at time the "grownups" don't talk enough. I've had Signallers working with my platoon on Infantry exercises that loved being a Pl Sig, while others would rather be in a CP drinking coffee. The point I'm trying to make is the Bde HQ staff should be looking at what is required by all of the participating units WRT Training Outcomes and required Support, and do their best to accommodate them. Not everyone will be happy all the time but with time hopefully it will get better. We can't expect it work overnight.

In the area of soldier training I would have to agree with Sig_Des on this. The Comm Res running it's own recruit training school is ludicrous. There is no reason to fly troops to Shilo to do a Basic. There are resources at the Area Training Centres to accomplish the ends. The addition of the potential Instructors and Unit resources to the mix would certainly help with the equipment and personnel requirements. It just never made any sense to me flying troops out there when they could drive, in most cases, a few hours and be at an ATC. Also the ability to load Comm Res Tps on a Garrison run BMQ would certainly shorten the amount of time required to get them loaded on a QL3 and doing trades training. One thing the Comm Res can benefit from with this change is more experience working with the other trades on a more regular basis. No trade operates alone in the field. Once the working relationships get hammered out, BOTH sides can garner some positive results. IMHO there hasn't been enough of a priority set on providing the Militia the Sigs support it needs. As stated above, it was fairly low on the list of unit priorities. This will most likely change, and I think that's a good thing. 

I totally agree with Radop that the Reg and Res signallers need to work more closely. One of the areas that is problematic is kit. I was in Kingston on my QL 5 last summer. When we were completing the NCCIS portion we had some NS kit issues. When the Techs showed up to assist (I should mention that they went above and beyond helping us resurrect some old kit ), they hadn't seen an LCT or QRT in years. Obviously the Reg Force is using newer kit, so trying to train to a more common standard WRT equipment is going to be a problem.  Also as Radop stated there are good, adequate, and poor soldiers in both components, we are just a cross section of the society  from whence we came. I think that time, money, equipment, familiarity and patience can help to bridge the some of gap, but cooperation in training is probably going to give us the most bang for the buck.

To sum up, I think the Comm Res "going away" is not necessarily a bad thing (other than the money), but the task of integrating the Sqns into the Bde framework should really be scrutinized and examined thouroughly. The last thing we need is a convoluted "New Approach". Let's look at the Reg Force Bde HQ Sigs Sqn model and not try to reinvent the wheel.

At the end of the day we all belong to the same team and have a common purpose, to "make talky-box work", and give the members of the chain the ability to pass info up and orders down.


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Re: Comm Res No More?
« Reply #38 on: February 24, 2007, 21:58:22 »
At the end of the day we all belong to the same team and have a common purpose, to "make talky-box work", and give the members of the chain the ability to pass info up and orders down.

Excellent first post Smitty and I think your last comment sums up the message loud and clear.
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Re: Comm Res No More?
« Reply #39 on: February 25, 2007, 19:44:07 »
Smitty,

always good to see a familiar name here, and seeing yours has brought a huge smile to my face. Welcome to the addiction!

Glad to see that you agree.

While I'm disappointed that I won't be back to the Comm Res world to enjoy them, I'm personally looking forward to some positive changes.

Definitely agree with your point about some of the kit, particularly on our QL5 courses. Now, just to clarify, when we used the LCTs and QRTs we were on an "NCCIS light" course, not an official course (It doesn't have a course number) something that was tacked on by Comm Res after a member's QL5A course.

In fact, one of Smitty's roomates had been excused from said course as he had already done an NCCIS Heavy course. What's the use of an NCCIS light course? I don't see it if it's not an official course.

As far as the kit, agreed wholeheartedly. Those techs did an amazing job patching up these trucks, but there's only so much you can do when pieces of equipment for the kit aren't available for replacement and you don't deal with the equipment. We had to cannibalize about 7 QRT kits to get 3 working.

I understand that the NCCIS Light would teach Res Sig Ops how to use kit that's used at their units, but I'd rather see that as unit run OJT training, and make Res Sig Ops available for NCCIS Heavy courses, especially with the number of Res Sig Ops going on deployments nowadays. Would make a much easier common ground when working with Regs.
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Re: Comm Res No More?
« Reply #40 on: July 03, 2007, 15:27:10 »
My thoughts on this topic is that the Comm Res joining the Army.....at least on the west Coast......would be a very good thing for both the Comm Res and the Bde.

From my experience it is not that the Bde units don't know that the Comm Res exists, actually the opposite is true. The big problem is getting authority for them to participate on Bde exercises from their HQ. Comms support, with the exception of the annual BTE, seem to be very low on the Comm Res priority list. In the past units have been turned down for comms support because unit trg, such as setting up modular tentage or conducting entire exercises devoted to radio checks, his higher on the priority list than supporting a unit exercise. After being turned down a number of times you kinda assume you are not going to get it and plan around the problem.  For the Sig Ops this is not a great situation as playing by yourselves doesn't give you realistic trg, nor do you get the opportunity to see how the Comms fits in in the big picture.

If the Comm Res does join the Army, and falls under the local Bde's, I'm willing to bet that the opportunities for realistic and meaningful trg will greatly increase. Another benefit for the Comm Res is the access to all the local Bde's comms eqpt. In our Bde we constantly lend out our comms eqpt to other units that require it. I've noticed that most Comm Res units have only three or four CPs. You could easily quadruple that number if you had access to Bde resources.

Doubt that you would see a reduction in pde trg days. Even if you went to parading Wednesday nights and one weekend a month there would still be a ton of exercises to support to make up for lost parade days. Besides, if you really think about it how many of those parade days involve valuable trg? How many times do you have to set up an antenna to make sure you know how to do it? I guess you have to ask yourself whether you'd rather be setting up an antenna for the umpteenth million time this year, or communicating on an exercise in a more realistic setting. All depends on what your priorities are I guess.


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Re: Comm Res No More?
« Reply #41 on: July 03, 2007, 15:50:54 »
I appreciate Comm Res hesitation in joining Army Res. The job is easy to see and justify, but if swallowed up in the green machine, Comms is a small cog. To operate effective Comms, takes a large budget, the reserve is budget sensitive. If Comm Res is absoured into the Army Reserve, I think there would be a decrease in Comms training, as the extra money would be directed to the pointy end.
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Re: Comm Res No More?
« Reply #42 on: July 03, 2007, 15:55:10 »

Definitely agree with your point about some of the kit, particularly on our QL5 courses. Now, just to clarify, when we used the LCTs and QRTs we were on an "NCCIS light" course, not an official course (It doesn't have a course number) something that was tacked on by Comm Res after a member's QL5A course.


NCCIS heavy and light courses are both official courses -

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Re: Comm Res No More?
« Reply #43 on: July 03, 2007, 16:07:33 »
I understand that the NCCIS Light would teach Res Sig Ops how to use kit that's used at their units, but I'd rather see that as unit run OJT training

I missed this before.  I think you have a good idea on the face of things, but it's more complicated than you let on. First off, the NCCIS gear that is in place in reserve units isn't easy to use.  A lot of our guys think they know what's going on with it, but they're wrong. Asking the units to train their own guys is a bad idea if they don't have anyone who really knows what he's doing to run the trg. Centralized training will help to assure quality control over the teaching process. Then we would just have to track down the 10 or so guys in this organization that actually know what they're talking about regarding that stuff, get them to Kingston and go from there.  (Admittedly that in itself is going to be a bit tricky).

NCCIS heavy and light courses are both official courses -

Heavy is 115719 (Nat Qual AIWH) and Light is 115720 (Nat Qual AIWG)

As of last year, CFSCE F Sqn is not running NCCIS Lt, they're running (Res) NCCIS Lt, which has no crse code issued as yet.  The light crse run at the regiment is a different animal.  This info is a year old though, so if things have changed and someone knows better, pls correct me.

make Res Sig Ops available for NCCIS Heavy courses, especially with the number of Res Sig Ops going on deployments nowadays. Would make a much easier common ground when working with Regs.

That's a great idea. But who's going to pay for it?  JSR is the only show in town for that course, and their priority is to qualify their own guys. If they can fit the odd reservist in then great, if not, then it's no skin off their nose. They've now gotten rid of the QRT, so their NCCIS no longer resembles reserve NCCIS at all. Different courses are going to be required for the forseeable future.

My thoughts on this topic is that the Comm Res joining the Army.....at least on the west Coast......would be a very good thing for both the Comm Res and the Bde.

From my experience it is not that the Bde units don't know that the Comm Res exists, actually the opposite is true. The big problem is getting authority for them to participate on Bde exercises from their HQ. Comms support, with the exception of the annual BTE, seem to be very low on the Comm Res priority list.

I agree that the bun fighting between the two organizations has to stop, and hope that it will now that the new arrangement is in place. I've been trying to get better cooperation going for the past 2 years, and it's been a slow process.  I think both sides are to blame. For example: though it might be nice to commit to more joint trg and say that we will place support to your exercises high on the list of priorities, we both know that list is not mandated by individual units themselves- it comes from much higher and it ties our hands.  When the Brigade phones up on Monday and asks us to support an exercise that starts the coming Saturday, it's pretty unreasonable for them to get upset when we say no- sorry fellas, turns out we already have plans for that weekend. Likewise with asking us to run ATCIS courses with very short notice and so forth.  Better coordination and willingness to make compromises is required from both sides on this one.  It seems to be getting better, but we still need to work on it.

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Re: Comm Res No More?
« Reply #44 on: July 03, 2007, 19:41:00 »
As of last year, CFSCE F Sqn is not running NCCIS Lt, they're running (Res) NCCIS Lt, which has no crse code issued as yet.  The light crse run at the regiment is a different animal.  This info is a year old though, so if things have changed and someone knows better, pls correct me.

I taught a QL5 last summer, and all of my students received the NCCIS Lt qual, and the Journeyman qual, the same as the regular force members get. There was a drive by Standards before all the students arrived to get a final copy of the compressed training requirements and put them into a TP. I was pleasantly suprised when it happened, and I think it bodes well for us to train more competent operators.

As with anything in the Army, I think a "watch and shoot" approach would probably solve some problems from the get-go. People sliding into working with the Army Reserve with a chip on their shoulder about being the small cog that moves the pointy end will probably just fulfill all their own prophecies. Then again, it is a soldier's God-given right to complain, and I probably won't be quiet when some RadVans or Cl A training money goes missing.  ;D

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Re: Comm Res No More?
« Reply #45 on: July 03, 2007, 19:43:27 »
If you mean that the Reg F students get an NCCIS Lt qual in conjunction with their 5's then that's not correct.  F Sqn is the only one that does that.

And the NCCIS Lt Qual we gave, last year, is not the same as the real NCCIS Lt crse.  It was a trg session, based on a draft CTP, for which no qual currently exists.  I was there too.

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Re: Comm Res No More?
« Reply #46 on: July 03, 2007, 20:00:53 »
I stand corrected, thanks for clearing that up.

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Re: Comm Res No More?
« Reply #47 on: July 04, 2007, 03:08:54 »
There was a drive by Standards before all the students arrived to get a final copy of the compressed training requirements and put them into a TP.

Just to clarify one more point, there is/was no compressed trg requirement.  The QL5 that's done within F Sqn is the same as the one done in B Sqn, i.e. it's now a "Total Force" crse, same for Reg and Res.  That became the case last year.  You're probably thinking of the fact that the courses we ran were pilot courses in the sense that although the CTP had been in place for Reg F troops for a while, it had never been run for Reserve troops before, which is why Standards were involved the way they were.

Not trying to jump on you, just clarifying.

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Re: Comm Res No More?
« Reply #48 on: July 04, 2007, 10:52:44 »
Is it true in Kingston 10 years ago someone molded a 10 foot long penis onto the Jimmy statue at CFB Kingston?

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Re: Comm Res No More?
« Reply #49 on: July 04, 2007, 14:29:46 »
I missed this before.  I think you have a good idea on the face of things, but it's more complicated than you let on. First off, the NCCIS gear that is in place in reserve units isn't easy to use.  A lot of our guys think they know what's going on with it, but they're wrong.

I can agree to that. a bit of a pipe dream, and sometimes is seems that operating an LCT/QRT is more art than science. But since the NCCIS Lt run by F Sqn is reserve specific, and only 3 weeks, could it possibly be broken down to a regional level? Maybe a Group run training session?

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That's a great idea. But who's going to pay for it?  JSR is the only show in town for that course, and their priority is to qualify their own guys. If they can fit the odd reservist in then great, if not, then it's no skin off their nose. They've now gotten rid of the QRT, so their NCCIS no longer resembles reserve NCCIS at all. Different courses are going to be required for the forseeable future.

I can understand that. I haven't done the course, don't know how long it is. Would it be looked at to possibly run the NCCIS Heavy course during the summer at F Sqn as an addendum to Journeyman courses?

Is it true in Kingston 10 years ago someone molded a 10 foot long penis onto the Jimmy statue at CFB Kingston?
What does that have to do with anything in this topic?
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