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I hope that they have done something to stop the oil and hydrulic fluid from pouring out on the ground. We spent most of our time filling systems, when I worked on them. And they had so many cracks in the structure that it looked like spides lived there.

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I hope that they have done something to stop the oil and hydrulic fluid from pouring out on the ground. We spent most of our time filling systems, when I worked on them. And they had so many cracks in the structure that it looked like spides lived there.

Uhhh.....are these the same ones the Norwegians are running around in?
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Uhhh.....are these the same ones the Norwegians are running around in?

Nope, the Dutch.

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I hope that they have done something to stop the oil and hydraulic fluid from pouring out on the ground. We spent most of our time filling systems, when I worked on them. And they had so many cracks in the structure that it looked like spides lived there.

That's the in flight fluids monitoring system. If there's oil or hydraulic fluid coming out it means that the system isn't empty. You know there's a problem when it stops coming out.
But not lately. If I could do it all over again I would  change one thing.

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If I remember correctly as long as the levels didnot drop out of the sight glass on a 2.5 hour flight it was still serviceable, but sticky.

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I hope that someone saved some of the training aids that I made from the remains of 002 after she crashed and burned up north. It would be nice to know that they stayed in Canada in memory of the crew.

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i found this http://www.chinookdr.com/    "Chinook Helicopter Training"  and thought it'd be of interest for those following this thread

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A show had a segment on the Chinook F series showing the testing and the cockpit, looks nice and the pilot was glowing about the aircraft. They mentioned that the newer design had significantly fewer parts.

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i found this http://www.chinookdr.com/    "Chinook Helicopter Training"  and thought it'd be of interest for those following this thread
I just went through the fuel system. It's very good. Just what's necessary without overloading of information. Of course there are lots of numbers included but I just skipped through most of them as the valueable ones always sink in with actual experience.  Why am I talking about actual experience?  I'm retired. Oh well. I can always dream.
But not lately. If I could do it all over again I would  change one thing.

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From the Globe and Mail today:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080805.wprocurement05/BNStory/National/home

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...the planned signing of the contract for the new helicopters has fallen months behind.

Documents released by the Department of National Defence show the government is struggling to fit the helicopter in its "prescribed" acquisition budget of $2-billion, stating the cost has jumped to $2.3-billion. The documents show that inflation costs, caused by the "slippage" in the signing of the contract, have already cost the government $80-million.

A briefing note from last September laid out two major sets of options for National Defence:

Adopt the status quo, meaning the government would agree to "absorb the overrun cost."

Or, change the equipment that Ottawa gets installed in the helicopters.

A DND spokeswoman refused to offer details on the plans to purchase the Chinook, stating it could only do so once the contract is signed.

"As the government is currently in negotiations with the company for the acquisition of the CH-47 model F Chinook, we are unable to provide the particular information requested," Krista Hannivan said...

But that "slippage" is probably misleading not relevant to the current situation: a post at The Torch:

CH-47Fs: Does the Globe and Mail have a story?
http://toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2008/08/ch-47fs-does-globe-and-mail-have-story.html

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Not exactly in "fall of 2008" (lots of background at link)
http://toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2008/04/ch-47-chinook-government-one-step.html
but fairly close if things work out. From a Google translation (note the "Canadianization")...
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ledevoir.com%2F2008%2F12%2F15%2F223441.html&sl=fr&tl=en

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Ottawa to sign the contract to purchase 16 Chinook helicopters
The proposed acquisition of aircraft rescue will be submitted to cabinet in January

The contract for the purchase of 16 helicopters Chinook military transport should be signed by the federal government early next year. Negotiations between Ottawa and the multinational Boeing just enter their final phase and all details should be settled before Christmas...

...Ottawa will spend more than other countries for its new Chinook since asked Boeing to build a helicopter more versatile, able to travel to combat zones, to fly in extreme conditions and make the rescue [combat search and rescue?].

For example, the Canadian Forces want a tank twice as big. Several defense equipment would be added, including a missile sensor systems and response. A more powerful battery would be installed on the helicopter, as well as sophisticated weather radars. Stabilizers flight would be added as a device to be used to easily climb on board the survivors of a disaster...

...of this story in Le Devoir.
http://www.ledevoir.com/2008/12/15/223441.html

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