Trudeau Popularity - or not (various polling, etc.)

[Remius]

Dissatisfied Liberal MPs plan to ask PM Trudeau to step aside at next caucus meeting

Liberal MPs who have spent the last 10 days organizing to ask Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to step aside from the leadership of the Liberal Party plan to plead their case directly to him at next Wednesday's caucus.

www.ctvnews.ca

Wonder if this will lead to anything.

 

[Furniture]

Dissatisfied Liberal MPs plan to ask PM Trudeau to step aside at next caucus meeting

Liberal MPs who have spent the last 10 days organizing to ask Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to step aside from the leadership of the Liberal Party plan to plead their case directly to him at next Wednesday's caucus.

www.ctvnews.ca

Wonder if this will lead to anything.

I suspect it lead directly to this...

Trudeau says he has list of Tories vulnerable to, or engaged in, foreign meddling

 

[Halifax Tar]

Dissatisfied Liberal MPs plan to ask PM Trudeau to step aside at next caucus meeting

Liberal MPs who have spent the last 10 days organizing to ask Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to step aside from the leadership of the Liberal Party plan to plead their case directly to him at next Wednesday's caucus.

www.ctvnews.ca

Wonder if this will lead to anything.

It's quite the narcissist who will hang with all this going on around them.

The honorable man would step down.

 

[Jarnhamar]

I suspect it lead directly to this...

Trudeau says he has list of Tories vulnerable to, or engaged in, foreign meddling

Looks like Trudeau finally had to admit ol' Ham Dongs riding had some irregularities.

Dong stands by nothing being weird about busses full of Chinese high schoolers being brought in to vote for him.

Trudeaus really getting close to his fail safe of promising free money for everyone.

 

[RangerRay]

Like a stopped watch is right twice a day, Trudeau is right in this instance.

Why Poilievre won’t take the steps to arm himself with this information is beyond me. It’s like closing your eyes, plugging your ears, and singing “LALALALALALALAH!” at the top of your lungs when someone is trying to tell you something.

 

[Furniture]

Like a stopped watch is right twice a day, Trudeau is right in this instance.

Why Poilievre won’t take the steps to arm himself with this information is beyond me. It’s like closing your eyes, plugging your ears, and singing “LALALALALALALAH!” at the top of your lungs when someone is trying to tell you something.

As I pointed out in another thread, I suspect it's because he's seen the old "This is classified so you can't talk about it publicly now." trick used before...

 

[Remius]

It's quite the narcissist who will hang with all this going on around them.

The honorable man would step down.

I’ll be curious to see how many stand up and ask.

 

[dapaterson]

Have to think this is very hard on some people. Imagine spending your career as a politician, working to build up your influence / access to decision makers... and then all the foreign agents ignore you as not being worth the effort.

 

[RangerRay]

As I pointed out in another thread, I suspect it's because he's seen the old "This is classified so you can't talk about it publicly now." trick used before...

Maybe.

But he seems to be very incurious about who in his caucus is compromised. At the very least, he can use the information to remove people from sensitive committees, not sign their nomination papers, encourage to “spend more time with the family”, etc.

If I had a chance to read a secret report to find out who on my team are not real team players, I’d do it even if I couldn’t talk about the compromised members of the other team. At least I would know as leader who is and isn’t trustworthy.

I would love to see Canada solve its intelligence-> evidence problem so all of these people can be investigated by police and prosecuted. Otherwise someone from NSICOP will have to read out the names in Parliament under privilege, which isn’t going to happen.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Have to think this is very hard on some people. Imagine spending your career as a politician, working to build up your influence / access to decision makers... and then all the foreign agents ignore you as not being worth the effort.

 

[Furniture]

Maybe.

But he seems to be very incurious about who in his caucus is compromised. At the very least, he can use the information to remove people from sensitive committees, not sign their nomination papers, encourage to “spend more time with the family”, etc.

If I had a chance to read a secret report to find out who on my team are not real team players, I’d do it even if I couldn’t talk about the compromised members of the other team. At least I would know as leader who is and isn’t trustworthy.

I would love to see Canada solve its intelligence-> evidence problem so all of these people can be investigated by police and prosecuted. Otherwise someone from NSICOP will have to read out the names in Parliament under privilege, which isn’t going to happen.

Except he has people in the party who have that information, and who can advise him that certain people shouldn't be part of the inner circle.

If he had the information he couldn't openly blacklist them any more than he can now with a nudge from the people in the know.

 

[dimsum]

Except he has people in the party who have that information, and who can advise him that certain people shouldn't be part of the inner circle.

If he had the information he couldn't openly blacklist them any more than he can now with a nudge from the people in the know.

If those people tell him, or even hint at “maybe so-and-so shouldn’t be near anything important”, how close is it to essentially leaking info? How much trouble would those people get?

 

[daftandbarmy]

If those people tell him, or even hint at “maybe so-and-so shouldn’t be near anything important”, how close is it to essentially leaking info? How much trouble would those people get?

It's all OK, Elizabeth said so, so Trudeau is essentially bluffing...

Green Leader Elizabeth May says there's no list of disloyal current MPs in unredacted NSICOP report​

May says she was 'relieved' after reading top-secret information​

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/elizabeth-may-nsicop-mps-1.7231497

 

[RangerRay]

Except he has people in the party who have that information, and who can advise him that certain people shouldn't be part of the inner circle.

If he had the information he couldn't openly blacklist them any more than he can now with a nudge from the people in the know.

Except that doesn’t make sense. If his staff is cleared, they can’t pass that information on to the leader without breaking the law.

I really want to vote for someone who takes national security seriously. That used to be the Conservatives. Now they all appear to be clowns.

 

[Cloud Cover]

Trudea is going to:
-promise, if elected, to introduce some kind of guaranteed basic income leading people to believe they can sit at home and collect checks
-promise, if elected, to introduce some kind of guaranteed work from home rule leading the 360,000 public service living in big cities to vote for him
-promise, if elected, to introduce an even better daycare plan
-promise, if elected, to really take the housing situation seriously and come up with a plan to make housing more affordable.
-promise, if elected, to introduce electoral reform


Lots of stupid Canadians will eat these promises up. I'm predicting a Liberal minority government.

Bang on. He will especially push for proportional rep as that will pretty much keep the Cons out of power forever.

 

[Cloud Cover]

It's all OK, Elizabeth said so, so Trudeau is essentially bluffing...

Green Leader Elizabeth May says there's no list of disloyal current MPs in unredacted NSICOP report​

May says she was 'relieved' after reading top-secret information​

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/elizabeth-may-nsicop-mps-1.7231497

Son of God on a cracker, how drunk was she when reading the report or did the security service give her a different binder for strange people.

 

[DBNSG]

Son of God on a cracker, how drunk was she when reading the report or did the security service give her a different binder for strange people.

Well She was born in the States and lived in the Highland woods of Cape Breton growing up. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

Except that doesn’t make sense. If his staff is cleared, they can’t pass that information on to the leader without breaking the law.

I really want to vote for someone who takes national security seriously. That used to be the Conservatives. Now they all appear to be clowns.

I don’t want my Prime Minister to not read classified national security briefings because he is too busy surfing, unless he can use those briefings for partisan advantage. Yet, here we are.

The issue here is not with PP and the Cons. They are not the Government, nor have been for (checks watch) 9 years.

This Prime Minister, at various Parliamentary hearings over the years, has been described by his own party and chief of staff as either reading everything or reading nothing, depending on which narrative best fits for the particular moment of crisis.

Forgive me if I do not trip over myself asking the CPC to account for themselves. I am in the “lier, lier pants on fire” camp, until the Liberals and this PM prove otherwise. He made extraordinary claims. He should now be forced to put up or shut up- release all the the names of all parliamentarians of all parties who are implicated and let the voters decide.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I don’t want my Prime Minister to not read classified national security briefings because he is too busy surfing, unless he can use those briefings for partisan advantage. Yet, here we are.

The issue here is not with PP and the Cons. They are not the Government, nor have been for (checks watch) 9 years.

This Prime Minister, at various Parliamentary hearings over the years, has been described by his own party and chief of staff as either reading everything or reading nothing, depending on which narrative best fits for the particular moment of crisis.

Forgive me if I do not trip over myself asking the CPC to account for themselves. I am in the “lier, lier pants on fire” camp, until the Liberals and this PM prove otherwise. He made extraordinary claims. He should now be forced to put up or shut up- release all the the names of all parliamentarians of all parties who are implicated and let the voters decide.

Exactly, the LPC could end all this right now. Just release the names.

Why aren't they ? There track record tells me it goes against their self interest.

 

[Rifleman62]

Brian Lilley


Trudeau had smiled earlier in the day, proudly talking about Broadhurst getting briefed, and then briefing him, on the concerns of CSIS. But then says Ian Todd can't get briefed despite having clearance? His whole testimony was a farce and desperate attempt shift blame.

After bragging that Jeremy Broadhurst, a top Liberal, had security clearance and was briefed on foreign interference, Trudeau changes his tune. He says Ian Todd, Pierre Poilievre’s chief of staff wouldn’t be briefed by CSIS due to a need to know basis. He’s making it all up.