Canada can push both the GDSL and the Roshel products at the same time, they can be complimentary. Plus having Roshel as a up and coming manufacturer will keep GDSL on their toes and not get to uppity.
There certainly is a major gap in the afv fleet for an armoured recce vehicle for Regimental Recce Sqn/Bde/Div Recce. The TAPV is dogshit and the LAV LRSS is too big and better suited to persistent surveillance tasks. They have a role in the Sqn but cant be the only thing in them. I've rang this bell before but I think the French Jaguar is the perfect truck for wheeled Armd Recce. I can see a Recce Sqn with 3 Tps of Jaguars, a Tp of LRSS and a large CS tp with dismounts in Armd LUV trucks, a mortar section and a UAS section. Regimental Assault Tp can be attached for mobility/countermobility tasks.I miss my Ferret.
There are a lot of other reports on them and other vehicles in that sort of family.
It’s a Ford 550.
The LAV has a lot of variants that GDLS has done here in the Stryker 2.0 family.
The Senator family is purpose built . . . just using an existing standard chassis. Ford has already invested millions into the research and manufacture of these chasis and continues to product improve them.
The Canadian CMP from the second world war was also built on commercial chassis but became the most successful truck design of the war. Churchill.himsepf said the war couldn't have been won without Canadian logistics vehicles. We have a long standing tradition building some pretty good conversions of vehicles assembled in S Ont. Food for thought.The Senator family is purpose built . . . just using an existing standard chassis. Ford has already invested millions into the research and manufacture of these chasis and continues to product improve them.
At some point, especially if you want to build mass, you have to look at cost, even with a fairytale 3.5% budget. At some point you have to call "good enough."
Roshel is here and through no brilliant effort by either the civilian government or our military they have created a product that fills a gap adequately - if not better - than others.
They are already slipping into manufacturing offshore. Canada could easily lose them and as God is my witness, Toronto could do with a solid defence manufacturer.
Personally I think we need a tracked armoured force at one end of the scale (GDLS) and a light specialized force at the other end (various equipment and manufacturers) and we need to fill the middle with a very large general purpose force based on armoured Senators and unarmoured F550s produced through Roshel and a heavy logistics vehicle fleet manufactured by a third, major Canadian company.
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for rear area security you dont need 20 ton (28 with add on armour) IFV for CUAS or SHORAD, with the F ech? sure second line medical transport, absolutely you can outfit one to do that role just fine and for cheaper than a ACSV. For a cost benefit analysis, for the price of one LAV 6 you can get 7 Senators. Especially in rear area rolls i'll take more over less, especially if i dont need all the bells and whistles a LAV has.
But, this assumes it is used in the same way and faces the same threats.
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I think only if the dollars are actually spent on defense items by Canada, IE if we pay for a NASAMS, yes, if its given to another organization as foreign aid no
perhaps but Roshel also has now partners with Babcock for DAME, and is getting more help from industry partners to improve the vehicles as well which could give us a made in canada solution with many variations, that likely could be cheaply maintained.
The Roshels, are they using the same axles? How much of the F550 is left I wonder? Frame, engine,transmission?
Judging by the specs it keeps the same higher end 6.7L V8 diesel, and 10 speed transmission. I would speculate axles are different as the senator boasts a slightly lower torque spec.
