Canada moves to 2% GDP end of FY25/26 - PMMC

[Underway]

I have met very few folks who have served in an operational theatre who have been ready to badmouth the reserve force.
It would probably help if NDHQ would stop viewing them as an near endless supply of cheap clerks.

Because they worked with other Army's and realized that we have Cpl's who we trust with other Army's Capt's work. As much as we bitch, our troops and sailors are well trained, intelligent and mission focused.

Patroling spirit is a rarity in other armies.

 

[PrairieFella]

Because they worked with other Army's and realized that we have Cpl's who we trust with other Army's Capt's work. As much as we bitch, our troops and sailors are well trained, intelligent and mission focused.

Patroling spirit is a rarity in other armies.

Sometimes having a patrolling spirit sucks lol.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadianForces/comments/zhs1v9/scs_patrolling_spirit

 

[Underway]

Classic "institutional leadership" right there...

"What's in it for me" has, and always will be, a major component of why people join and then continue to stay in. Pretending it isn't that way is just obvious and laughable Kool-aid drinking.

People here need to take a course on dialectics.

Quite frankly he never said that it wasn't a component of why people stay or go, or that frustration with the institution is imaginary. He just said he combats it by reminding them of the greater than themselves mission that we often forget about. That's all.

 

[Underway]

Sometimes having a patrolling spirit sucks lol.

Yah, it does. But its what makes us some of the best. Really only the Aussies, French and British have patroling spirit. You have to go to SOF in the US to see it. Even USMC don't have it (they did, they lost it somewhere down the road).

 

[Underway]

For sure, I'm in a "sea going billet" and spend quite a bit of time ashore but still manage to get over a hundred sea days a year, I'm up over 2700 now LOL. If sea pay is changed I probably will lose thousands of dollars. Probably close to a 10K hit between PLD and SDA, that's significant.

How are you still getting PLD. Should be solidly on CFHD at this point. I do understand the SDA argument though, its going to be a bloodbath if they go through with it as rumoured.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Yah, it does. But its what makes us some of the best. Really only the Aussies, French and British have patroling spirit. You have to go to SOF in the US to see it. Even USMC don't have it (they did, they lost it somewhere down the road).

It's important to remember that there's a fine line between 'patrolling spirit' and 'blood lust'.

With good leadership, you tend to get the former ...

 

[Underway]

It's important to remember that there's a fine line between 'patrolling spirit' and 'blood lust'.

With good leadership, you tend to get the former ...

Not sure how bloodlust relates to sitting in your OP, in the pouring rain, doing your job despite being cold, wet and tired. But I'm not army and perhaps I have a different idea what patroling spirit is supposed to mean.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Oh sorry

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Yes I always felt safe to open up to the RSM.......

 

[Furniture]

People here need to take a course on dialectics.

Quite frankly he never said that it wasn't a component of why people stay or go, or that frustration with the institution is imaginary. He just said he combats it by reminding them of the greater than themselves mission that we often forget about. That's all.

Sure... we can fight human nature and delve deep into what is essentially "bullshit" by a fancy name.

The Army CWO gave a BS answer to a serious question. Dressing it up in fancy debate terminology might make the RMC set swoon, but for the rest of us, it's just a transparent company line tossed out to dismiss genuine concerns. I'm assuming it was an open question, and the Chief could jav3 addressed the real concerns, but instead stuck to the company line, because sticking to the company line means your troops hate you, but your career is still on track.

This goes back to the heart of my "institutional leadership" jab. In trying to make CWOs better able to articulate the concerns of the troops, we have made them shitty Jr. Officers, with less pay.

 

[Halifax Tar]

This goes back to the heart of my "institutional leadership" jab. In trying to make CWOs better able to articulate the concerns of the troops, we have made them shitty Jr. Officers, with less pay.

 

[Stoker]

How are you still getting PLD. Should be solidly on CFHD at this point. I do understand the SDA argument though, its going to be a bloodbath if they go through with it as rumoured.

I'm not, poor choice of words like everyone at my rank I'm currently getting the provisional one, now down to the last 25% while I figure out how to live without it.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I'm not, poor choice of words like everyone at my rank I'm currently getting the provisional one, now down to the last 25% while I figure out how to live without it.

I knew what you meant.

 

[rmc_wannabe]

This goes back to the heart of my "institutional leadership" jab. In trying to make CWOs better able to articulate the concerns of the troops, we have made them shitty Jr. Officers, with less pay.

I once referred to this as "Animal Farm" leadership. In that after a while, the rest of the farm cannot discern who is pig and who is man.

There becomes a point, usually after ILP, within the Warrant Officer ranks where most troops don't look at them as people who have their best interests in mind.

Why? Because most times, we put our Warrant Officers in a bad position, in which they are given 2 options moving forward:

- be the person that fights for the troops, but gets shouted down/left in the dust career-wise; or

- be a good "command team partner" and support the boss.

The latter creates an environment where troops cannot discern the Warrant Officers who are supposed to have their beat interests at heart from the Officers that command them.

The ASM's tone deaf comments are a shining example of how out of touch he has become with the struggles of troops on the ground. Why? I would say its not purely that he has been in an ivory tower at CA HQ, but moreso that the process started as the Pl 2IC many years ago, and was reinforced with every step up the ladder.

Perhaps the reason most troops are skeptical that anything effective will be done pay wise with this 2% is that we have these echochambers across the L1s and advising every policy change and update at CMP/CPCC.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I once referred to this as "Animal Farm" leadership. In that after a while, the rest of the farm cannot discern who is pig and who is man.

There becomes a point, usually after ILP, within the Warrant Officer ranks where most troops don't look at them as people who have their best interests in mind.

Why? Because most times, we put our Warrant Officers in a bad position, in which they are given 2 options moving forward:

- be the person that fights for the troops, but gets shouted down/left in the dust career-wise; or

- be a good "command team partner" and support the boss.

The latter creates an environment where troops cannot discern the Warrant Officers who are supposed to have their beat interests at heart from the Officers that command them.

The ASM's tone deaf comments are a shining example of how out of touch he has become with the struggles of troops on the ground. Why? I would say its not purely that he has been in an ivory tower at CA HQ, but moreso that the process started as the Pl 2IC many years ago, and was reinforced with every step up the ladder.

Perhaps the reason most troops are skeptical that anything effective will be done pay wise with this 2% is that we have these echochambers across the L1s and advising every policy change and update at CMP/CPCC.

I think you're right on the money.

 

[Kirkhill]

I once referred to this as "Animal Farm" leadership. In that after a while, the rest of the farm cannot discern who is pig and who is man.

There becomes a point, usually after ILP, within the Warrant Officer ranks where most troops don't look at them as people who have their best interests in mind.

Why? Because most times, we put our Warrant Officers in a bad position, in which they are given 2 options moving forward:

- be the person that fights for the troops, but gets shouted down/left in the dust career-wise; or

- be a good "command team partner" and support the boss.

The latter creates an environment where troops cannot discern the Warrant Officers who are supposed to have their beat interests at heart from the Officers that command them.

The ASM's tone deaf comments are a shining example of how out of touch he has become with the struggles of troops on the ground. Why? I would say its not purely that he has been in an ivory tower at CA HQ, but moreso that the process started as the Pl 2IC many years ago, and was reinforced with every step up the ladder.

Perhaps the reason most troops are skeptical that anything effective will be done pay wise with this 2% is that we have these echochambers across the L1s and advising every policy change and update at CMP/CPCC.

Like every good intermediary. People that spend their time negotiating have a limited period of grace. Often it is only one "contract" and only if there is a rapid conclusion. One party is always going to be unhappy. Win-win is a sales pitch. Both parties being unhappy is a more likely outcome. And both parties are guaranteed to be unhappy if negotiations drag on too long with no signs of movement.

Negotiators shouldn't get too comfortable. They aren't going to be effective or happy for long.

Their best outcome is a speedy resolution and a move to a different set of people, preferably ones that don't know the others.

Mediators, judges, lawyers, politicians, salesmen..... and apparently police and Warrant Officers.

 

[daftandbarmy]

I once referred to this as "Animal Farm" leadership. In that after a while, the rest of the farm cannot discern who is pig and who is man.

There becomes a point, usually after ILP, within the Warrant Officer ranks where most troops don't look at them as people who have their best interests in mind.

Why? Because most times, we put our Warrant Officers in a bad position, in which they are given 2 options moving forward:

- be the person that fights for the troops, but gets shouted down/left in the dust career-wise; or

- be a good "command team partner" and support the boss.

The latter creates an environment where troops cannot discern the Warrant Officers who are supposed to have their beat interests at heart from the Officers that command them.

The ASM's tone deaf comments are a shining example of how out of touch he has become with the struggles of troops on the ground. Why? I would say its not purely that he has been in an ivory tower at CA HQ, but moreso that the process started as the Pl 2IC many years ago, and was reinforced with every step up the ladder.

Perhaps the reason most troops are skeptical that anything effective will be done pay wise with this 2% is that we have these echochambers across the L1s and advising every policy change and update at CMP/CPCC.

I think this might be the term you're looking for

company man​

noun​

1. an employee whose allegiance to his employer comes before personal beliefs or loyalty to fellow workers.

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[ytz]

New rumint. They are standing up a tiger team to grow the PRes to 100k and a new mobilization reserve that will be several times the size of the PRes.

 

[ueo]

New rumint. They are standing up a tiger team to grow the PRes to 100k and a new mobilization reserve that will be several times the size of the PRes.

Good Luck!

 

[Furniture]

Good Luck!

It's not an impossible task, but it will require the GoC to find ways to incentivize joining beyond just pay.

 

[PrairieFella]

New rumint. They are standing up a tiger team to grow the PRes to 100k and a new mobilization reserve that will be several times the size of the PRes

Don't give me hope.