Canada's tanks

[KevinB]

Is an 11% probability of a hit with a $1000 munition such a bad ratio?

Hit doesn’t mean kill in this case.

And if it engages the enemy, has them runninng in circles, wasting ammunition, distracting them, aborting their action - harassing, suppressing and neutralizing them isn't that still contributing a useful effect to the battlespace?

It is a question of resources.
We covered this before on other threads.

If a Javelin has a Pk of 95+% and is $175k
Does a system that has a Pk under 5% that costs 15k a better deal?

What are the logistical challenges;
For 100 Javelin missiles or 25,000 FOV drones

Even if all it does is help 3 Ukrainians in a hole to hold a km of line and keep the otherside from advancing - holding them to a stalemate. That would seem to me to be enhancing economy of force efforts.

Opportunity cost is tough to know / maybe a 120mm Mortar would be more effective? Especially in all weather conditions.

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How many SAA rounds are put down range to achieve one hit?
Mortar rounds?
Grad rounds?
Even dumb artillery rounds and bombs.

The difference is the FPV are guided.

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To be clear, I will restate that I am not in favour of replacing conventional weapons with "drones". I do believe that "drones" will follow Moore's Law and get smaller, faster, cheaper and more effective and become a greater part of everyone's arsenal.

I also think that the new divisional structure is going to look a lot like the WW2 divisional sructure, particularly the inclusion of Light Anti-Aircraft Regiments (20mm and 40mm) and Anti-Tank Regiments (17 Pdr) with the Divisional Artillery

LAA becomes C-UAS (20 to 40 mm, SAMs, DE and EW)
AT becomes LRPF (Assault Breakers - LAMs, Brimstones and MFOM)

Brimstone is not LRPF.

I think you have gone tangentially sideways on the tank thread.

 

[Kirkhill]

Hit doesn’t mean kill in this case.

It is a question of resources.
We covered this before on other threads.

If a Javelin has a Pk of 95+% and is $175k
Does a system that has a Pk under 5% that costs 15k a better deal?

What are the logistical challenges;
For 100 Javelin missiles or 25,000 FOV drones


Opportunity cost is tough to know / maybe a 120mm Mortar would be more effective? Especially in all weather conditions.

The difference is the FPV are guided.


Brimstone is not LRPF.

I think you have gone tangentially sideways on the tank thread.

Tangentially sideways?

What kills a tank?

And I know the difference between a hit and a kill.

Does the person being hit?