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Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

We are talking about politicians here not troops or CAF members.
Okay, you wouldn't like your doctor lying to you then assuming its fine because you should have known she was lying. Or maybe you don't care. Point being Fanjoy was disingenuous.

And not all vote LPC. And not all vote CPC. It isn’t some monolithic voting block in Carlton. The remaining non PS types also came out to vote, that is out of about 50,000 plus.
Like I conceded, maybe Carlton still loves Fanjoy are are willing to over look some political sleigh of hand.
 
Okay, you wouldn't like your doctor lying to you then assuming its fine because you should have known she was lying. Or maybe you don't care. Point being Fanjoy was disingenuous.
Sure. Most MPs follow the party line. Both parties were not upfront about their plans for the PS. Not a top concern regardless,
Like I conceded, maybe Carlton still loves Fanjoy are are willing to over look some political sleigh of hand.
Or didn’t want to overlook PPs failings and voted him out. Or maybe they liked Carney. It’s not necessarily a love for Fanjoy as much as dislike for PP.

I voted for PP in 2022. Not because I liked him. Quite the opposite. But I liked O’Toole. Until Carney showed up I was going to vote CFP.
 
Canada 65
Australia 67
New Zealand 65
UK (major difference they use contributions 66
Denmark 67
Netherlands 67
Sweden 65
Finland 65
So all of these countries give their Seniors free money based on nothing but living in the country for 40yrs?
This is separate from their pension plans?
 
Carney doesn’t need to find 3 votes, he simply needs 3 MP’s on the other side to be out ‘sick’ or whatever.
It’s that simple.

MP's DO NOT have to be in Parliament to vote. They can vote remotely via a remote voting app since Mar 2021.

It is possible, I guess to be too sick to vote.
Joe Clark's government fell because just enough PC MPs were sick, plus Deifenbaker's old riding flipping NDP in a by-election and Social Credit abstaining, while Pierre Trudeau pulled several Liberal MPs out of the hospital to vote.
 
Strangely enough, over the last decade, when technological advances ought to have made administration of government simpler, the rise has been spectacular. And that's just the Feds. And that's just the administrative overhead and not the cost of the deliverables.

Not exactly "government" per se, but I'm strongly considering trying to switch Urologists (I'm getting yearly check-ups for Kindney stones) simply because they send me my ultra-sound and check-up appointments by LETTER and have no option for email communications or website coordinated appointments. When I lost my last letter in the pile of toddler crap that is my house, I had to call them and spend 20mins on hold to confirm my appointment time. I'm very happy with the service (this particular Urologist is widely considered to be the best in the Province), but I feel like I would be doing some kind of civic duty by leaving and saying "it's because you refuse to adopt modern technology", but in reality they'd probably be happy to have one less patient to deal with.
 
Not exactly "government" per se, but I'm strongly considering trying to switch Urologists (I'm getting yearly check-ups for Kindney stones) simply because they send me my ultra-sound and check-up appointments by LETTER and have no option for email communications or website coordinated appointments. When I lost my last letter in the pile of toddler crap that is my house, I had to call them and spend 20mins on hold to confirm my appointment time. I'm very happy with the service (this particular Urologist is widely considered to be the best in the Province), but I feel like I would be doing some kind of civic duty by leaving and saying "it's because you refuse to adopt modern technology", but in reality they'd probably be happy to have one less patient to deal with.
Our family doctor (like many I assume) still asks us to ‘fax’ documents to them regularly. Won’t/can’t accept ‘pdfs’.
 

The NDP is not ruling out the possibility that some or all of its seven MPs could abstain when the minority Liberal government’s budget is put to a vote in the House of Commons.
The government has warned of the possibility of a snap election unless at least one other party steps forward to allow approval of the budget, which will be tabled Tuesday.
NDP Interim Leader Don Davies said it’s possible that some NDP MPs will opt to vote neither for nor against the budget.
“Abstentions are allowed,” he said during an interview with CBC News that aired Sunday. He stood by those comments in a later e-mail exchange with The Globe and Mail.
Broke leaderless party realized it's broke and leaderless.

More at 11
 


Broke leaderless party realized it's broke and leaderless.

More at 11

I think everyone knows the NDP will prop this up one way or the other.

A Christmas election would probably kill them Federally, mind you I think they should just accept the inevitable to allow themselves to be absorbed by the LPC also.
 
A little surprising coming from the CBC... they must have caught a whiff of funding cuts in the tomorrows budget....


A few highlights from the article. This is the government that got us here, and then convinced the public to re-elect them.

By just about every measure, Canada’s economy is stuck in a ditch. Growth has sputtered. The unemployment rate is rising....

GDP per capita fell dramatically. Between 2014 to 2022, average growth in Canada came in third lowest among OECD countries...


Reitzes says the challenge in this week’s budget will be making sure everyone, from Canadian workers and businesses to pension funds and investors around the world, hear one clear message from the government.

“We are ready to grow the economy, we are focused on things Canadians need to have a better life and those priorities are not the same as they have been for the last 10 years,” said Reitzes.





Basically, this government has to say "We did this, we created this situation. Now we are going to do something else entirely. Trust us."

This seems like an awful lot of latitude given to a governing body. You absolutely shit the bed for 8 years, not 2, 3 or 4 years, 8 years... and counting.... but stay in power, we're curious to see how far you can take this.
 
Sounds like it's going to pass.

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Carney may have fallen short with his "master class" praise for his negotiation with Trump but his budget timing was a work of art.

Carney gets elected and says he won't drop a budget, he gets ridiculed by the opposition for it. He then changes his mind and will drop a budget in November.

Closer to November he starts dropping hints at how big the budget will be. Ambiguous "Prepare to make big sacrifices", and a continuation of the "most important time in our generation" bla bla from the election.


Now the parties have two options.

1. Support the Liberal budget which will very likely result in a massive deficit; or

2. Risk an election at Christmas time (with the LPC trusting most Canadians are short sighted and will be more upset over an unplanned election on a holiday than our financial future).


THAT is CEO energy.
 
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