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2026 US-Denmark Tensions/End of NATO

As for the Brits, all they can apparently do right now is consider …
Maybe they are keeping quiet because they are sending troops to Alert…. :)
 

"The foreign ministers of Denmark and Greenland met today at the White House with Vice President J.D. Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio. After the meeting, the Danish foreign minister, Lars Løkke Rasmussen, called the dialogue constructive but acknowledged, “We didn’t manage to change the American position."
 
The same could be said for America, which has been bankrupting itself to be the world policeman since WWII... Will America stand with its allies, while continuing to threaten annexation of their sovereign territory? Can any ally count on America to actually come to their aid now?

The US just took the dictator of VEN off the table, cleanly and expertly. How's that for policing the world?

It's probably more likely that it is the US that is the only ally that can be counted on to come to any meaningful aid. And maybe the brits. Everyone else is supporting in bits and pieces based off an American backstop.

The US is not going to "annex" Greenland. If it does happen it would be through a democratic process.
 
The battalions already exist with their equipment. The intent for the next several years is individually deployable battalions, so we are there.

In a world of info-ops might it not be worth somethimg to take that ready capability and rebrand it immediately as the Arctic Brigade or the Mobile Strike Force 2026? Assign the M777s and 1 Wing along with some dedicated Hercs? Place that DAME order as a UOR?
 
In a world of info-ops might it not be worth somethimg to take that ready capability and rebrand it immediately as the Arctic Brigade or the Mobile Strike Force 2026? Assign the M777s and 1 Wing along with some dedicated Hercs? Place that DAME order as a UOR?
No.
 
The US just took the dictator of VEN off the table, cleanly and expertly. How's that for policing the world?

Not good. It left the same oppressive Bolivarian socialist revolutionary regime in place. They are clamping down hard on anyone protesting.

But Trump’s made off with the oil, so he’s good.
 
The US just took the dictator of VEN off the table, cleanly and expertly. How's that for policing the world?
You’ve advocated multiple times that the US shouldn’t be the world’s police. What’s changed?
It's probably more likely that it is the US that is the only ally that can be counted on to come to any meaningful aid. And maybe the brits. Everyone else is supporting in bits and pieces based off an American backstop.
None of what is left of the US’s allies seem to believe that. Most are seeing the US as the biggest threat to them. Over China and over Russia. The US created those conditions, no one else.
The US is not going to "annex" Greenland. If it does happen it would be through a democratic process.
What democratic process? Please explain how that would happen exactly.
 
You’ve advocated multiple times that the US shouldn’t be the world’s police. What’s changed?

None of what is left of the US’s allies seem to believe that. Most are seeing the US as the biggest threat to them. Over China and over Russia. The US created those conditions, no one else.

What democratic process? Please explain how that would happen exactly.
I've advocated against massive ground invasions, occupy forces. I'm for SOF and strategic strikes when it's necessary.

Bullshit.

Plenty of precedent out there, including Denmark selling the Danish West Indies to the US.
 
But Trump’s made off with the oil, so he’s good.

You guys make it sound like Trump stole his own stockpile of oil to hoard then sell for personal profit.

What the US has done is restricted access of energy to China and Cuba with this move.
 
The US is not going to "annex" Greenland. If it does happen it would be through a democratic process.
Nice to know you have ties into the Trump administration and can relay to the rest of us plebs that despite everything being threatened, the USA will not use military force

I for one appreciate it
 
Trump exhibits zero-sum thinking in almost everything he does, which is part of the explanation for almost everything he does.

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Republicans have a majority in the House by 219 to 212 (there are 4 vacancies). A majority is 218. Republicans have a majority in the Senate of 53 to 47 (the 2 independents caucus with the Democrats). Rand Paul is already on record as being opposed to a US military invasion of Greenland.

Assume that Democrats will vote to pass any articles of impeachment offered in the House and to convict in the Senate. To pass articles requires peeling off 4 Republicans in the House, and to convict requires peeling off 3 more (other than Paul) in the Senate.

If Trump orders a military operation against a treaty ally, it's likely the single best opportunity to remove him that would ever occur. It would be a clear question without a partisan angle (it's all about division of powers to authorize war). The uncertain power to exit a treaty doesn't have to enter into it. It's early enough in the term that the VP would be limited to only one more term if he runs as an incumbent in 2028.

Notwithstanding what some people choose to believe about Congress being lapdogs of Trump, it's not hard to find 4 not-lapdogs in the House and 4 in the Senate (including Paul). Rather, it's highly likely that few politicians not ready to retire from politics would care to be on the pro-Trump side of this issue. The same extends to masses of people who wouldn't want to be blacklisted from employment prospects and social life.

Trump probably knows all this by now. I doubt he will order a military operation. If he orders one, I am confident above 99% that the military leadership refuses and Congress impeaches him.
 
Nobody knows what outcome the US is seeking, because the only idiot who thinks he knows is a Orange haired guy and what he seeks is found only between his two ears. In fact, until he came around with this whole crackpot idea, the US was not seeking anything whatsoever from Greenland.
The US has made several historical attempts to purchase Greenland. 1867, 1910, 1946, 1955, 2019 and 2025.

Damn, Trump is way older than I realized or....its been an American thing for a long time.
 
You guys make it sound like Trump stole his own stockpile of oil to hoard then sell for personal profit.

What the US has done is restricted access of energy to China and Cuba with this move.
Maybe to Cuba, but not it appears, China:

 
Ummm, so apparently Thule AFB (USAF) is still operating in Greenland under a new name? Pituffik now.

If I was a little devil standing on Trump's shoulder I would say this
"Dude, people cheered your sacking of Maduro, but this Greenland business is way past funny or tolerable. Please, please, make a sweet ass deal with Greenland, guaranteeing their sovereignty, taking the burden off Denmark (who lets be realistic can't do it either), and load up your USAF bases and USN ports. In return, Greenland gives American company mining rights to their vast minerals. And Greenland will purchase American food and goods they can not provide or make for themselves."
 
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