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Canada moves to 2% GDP end of FY25/26 - PMMC

Colin Parkinson said:
I have no doubt a civilian buyer will snap them up if the price is right, gutted of all the electronics and comms stuff.
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They have a notably heavier basic (empty) weight that a standard non-fit by wire, non-tail/main blade folding S-92. I’m with @dapaterson, I think there would be few if any takers to buy them, other than DoD. I would bet they sit out the remainder of their existence at Davis-Monthan in the field.
 
Good2Golf said:
They have a notably heavier basic (empty) weight that a standard non-fit by wire, non-tail/main blade folding S-92. I’m with @dapaterson, I think there would be few if any takers to buy them, other than DoD. I would bet they sit out the remainder of their existence at Davis-Monthan in the field.
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Maybe we go with what Australia did, and bury them in an old mine shaft and then fill it up with sand (and probably crikey snakes.🐍).
 
Good2Golf said:
They have a notably heavier basic (empty) weight that a standard non-fit by wire, non-tail/main blade folding S-92. I’m with @dapaterson, I think there would be few if any takers to buy them, other than DoD. I would bet they sit out the remainder of their existence at Davis-Monthan in the field.
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Or, in the time honoured CAF tradition, they create a reservist RCAF rotary wing squadron and give them all to the Militia ;)
 
dapaterson said:
No supply chain for parts makes me suspect they would be less inclined to do so.
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Good2Golf said:
They have a notably heavier basic (empty) weight that a standard non-fit by wire, non-tail/main blade folding S-92. I’m with @dapaterson, I think there would be few if any takers to buy them, other than DoD. I would bet they sit out the remainder of their existence at Davis-Monthan in the field.
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Really useful if Sikorsky wants to use the frames to do a whole lot of engineering work to make a medium-heavy helicopter they can sell to military clients in the future. They can finish all the developmental work they should have done before selling us this one.
 
Good2Golf said:
They have a notably heavier basic (empty) weight that a standard non-fit by wire, non-tail/main blade folding S-92. I’m with @dapaterson, I think there would be few if any takers to buy them, other than DoD. I would bet they sit out the remainder of their existence at Davis-Monthan in the field.
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OR melt down the metal bits and make useful things from them - like KFS for the troops.
 
daftandbarmy said:
Or, in the time honoured CAF tradition, they create a reservist RCAF rotary wing squadron and give them all to the Militia ;)
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Already done (400/438) and working well enough, just not given to the Army PRes to screw up…

ytz said:
Really useful if Sikorsky wants to use the frames to do a whole lot of engineering work to make a medium-heavy helicopter they can sell to military clients in the future. They can finish all the developmental work they should have done before selling us this one.
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I’m pretty sure the SIK lost desire in marketing the MILSUPERHAWK a couple decades ago…
 
Good2Golf said:
I’m pretty sure the SIK lost desire in marketing the MILSUPERHAWK a couple decades ago…
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The S-92 is commercially successful. It's just the Cyclone that has struggled. They probably would have gotten more military sales of the H-92 if the Cyclone was more successful. There's a lot of valuable capability in a medium lift helicopter with a ramp.
 
ytz said:
The S-92 is commercially successful. It's just the Cyclone that has struggled. They probably would have gotten more military sales of the H-92 if the Cyclone was more successful. There's a lot of valuable capability in a medium lift helicopter with a ramp.
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Unfortunately it became a lemon, and lemons are liabilities, which can get people killed. We dont even have all of them delivered yet, its ridiculous.
 
MilEME09 said:
Unfortunately it became a lemon, and lemons are liabilities, which can get people killed. We dont even have all of them delivered yet, its ridiculous.
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It was never not a lemon. We bought and paid for a experimental unproven aircraft instead of a proven guaranteed product.

So far it has cost us 6 people.

Someone should be showing up at Chretiens doorstep and tossing their names at it. The cadillac wouldn’t have had this problem.
 
Eaglelord17 said:
It was never not a lemon. We bought and paid for a experimental unproven aircraft instead of a proven guaranteed product.

So far it has cost us 6 people.

Someone should be showing up at Chretiens doorstep and tossing their names at it. The cadillac wouldn’t have had this problem.
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Just wondering... how many Senior Officers resigned in protest over being forced to adopt it into service against the best advice available?
 
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