New Canadian Shipbuilding Strategy

[RangerRay]

BC is not a bilingual Province and never has been. You can however be served in Mandarin, Hindi, Vietnamese and Tegula.

Probably a better chance of getting served in German as well.

 

[dapaterson]

Probably a better chance of getting served in German as well.

We're talking BC, not Argentina.

 

[YZT580]

As opposed the the great supports for Francophone families in Halifax and Esquimalt?

no argument except numbers. Will locating a portion of the fleet in Quebec encourage francophone enlistment to the point where it will substitute for the loss of anglophone crew members accepting transfers to La Belle Province? And which ships will it be: AOR's, the JSS as a stand alone, the subs? Because there is no point in establishing a naval port for a partial fleet at least not to my civilian eyes and the ship(s) involved will end up with an all french crew eventually.

 

[YZT580]

Just noted that Davies has a contract with the U.S. government to build five ice breakers for the coast guard. Two from Finland and 3 domestically produced with the first delivered in 2028. I wonder if they will cut steel for any of ours in Quebec by then?

 

[Czech_pivo]

Just noted that Davies has a contract with the U.S. government to build five ice breakers for the coast guard. Two from Finland and 3 domestically produced with the first delivered in 2028. I wonder if they will cut steel for any of ours in Quebec by then?

Domestically in the US, it’s for their new US company.

 

[YZT580]

Domestically in the US, it’s for their new US company.

and you don't suppose the funding provided by various governments for improvements in Quebec didn't help with the purchase of all these off-shore businesses? How are those improvements coming along by the way does anybody know? Will they be contributing to the NSS programme anytime soon? Their heavy ice breaker will be built in Finland as was the superstructure for the conversion they did. So when do the people of Quebec start seeing ships being built across the river.? Have we been taken or am I just blowing steam?

 

[DBNSG]

and you don't suppose the funding provided by various governments for improvements in Quebec didn't help with the purchase of all these off-shore businesses? How are those improvements coming along by the way does anybody know? Will they be contributing to the NSS programme anytime soon? Their heavy ice breaker will be built in Finland as was the superstructure for the conversion they did. So when do the people of Quebec start seeing ships being built across the river.? Have we been taken or am I just blowing steam?

I was under the Impression that the Finnish Yard is building the Main Ice Breaking Hull and the top workings will be built in Quebec. So a cold Ship will be towed across the Atlantic sometimes in the future.

 

[lenaitch]

BC is not a bilingual Province and never has been. You can however be served in Mandarin, Hindi, Vietnamese and Tegula.

Neither is Quebec (legally).

 

[Furniture]

As opposed the the great supports for Francophone families in Halifax and Esquimalt?

This ignores the reality that the majority of young Quebecers are on some level bilingual, because of exposure to the internet. If you're an Anglo in Canada you don't need to learn any French to get by outside of the government, but every Quebecer who wants to leave Quebec needs to know some English, and the internet makes that far easier than ever before.

I'm all for a base in Quebec, but it needs to be balanced against the reality that most Anglos won't move their family to a province that is openly hostile to them.

As an example, PEI has bilingual signs for construction, despite the reality that there are zero unilingual francophones in PEI. Quebec refuses to have bilingual signs for construction, despite the reality that many thousands of unilingual Anglophones transit through the province daily.

 

[YZT580]

This ignores the reality that the majority of young Quebecers are on some level bilingual, because of exposure to the internet. If you're an Anglo in Canada you don't need to learn any French to get by outside of the government, but every Quebecer who wants to leave Quebec needs to know some English, and the internet makes that far easier than ever before.

I'm all for a base in Quebec, but it needs to be balanced against the reality that most Anglos won't move their family to a province that is openly hostile to them.

As an example, PEI has bilingual signs for construction, despite the reality that there are zero unilingual francophones in PEI. Quebec refuses to have bilingual signs for construction, despite the reality that many thousands of unilingual Anglophones transit through the province daily.

In France the word STOP appears on Stop signs. Quebec uses ARRETE. As an english speaking VFR pilot you soon learnt that you were last in priority going into Quebec airports. ATC would ignore you or delay you. It was not a good experience.

 

[Furniture]

In France the word STOP appears on Stop signs. Quebec uses ARRETE. As an english speaking VFR pilot you soon learnt that you were last in priority going into Quebec airports. ATC would ignore you or delay you. It was not a good experience.

I am currently on a year-long French course, and even the instructors laugh about the stop signs and the use of "stationment" rather than "parking".

It all goes back to my point about Quebec being actively hostile to English, while even the French adopt English words where appropriate.

 

[Halifax Tar]

This ignores the reality that the majority of young Quebecers are on some level bilingual, because of exposure to the internet. If you're an Anglo in Canada you don't need to learn any French to get by outside of the government, but every Quebecer who wants to leave Quebec needs to know some English, and the internet makes that far easier than ever before.

I'm all for a base in Quebec, but it needs to be balanced against the reality that most Anglos won't move their family to a province that is openly hostile to them.

As an example, PEI has bilingual signs for construction, despite the reality that there are zero unilingual francophones in PEI. Quebec refuses to have bilingual signs for construction, despite the reality that many thousands of unilingual Anglophones transit through the province daily.

Not to mention these ships will have to communicate in English while at sea.

I am all for a base in Que, but I think we need to think hard about what it should do.

Good luck on the French course. Probably the most academically difficult but most rewarding courses I have done.

 

[Dana381]

As an example, PEI has bilingual signs for construction, despite the reality that there are zero unilingual francophones in PEI. Quebec refuses to have bilingual signs for construction, despite the reality that many thousands of unilingual Anglophones transit through the province daily.

That may be true now, however growing up in PEI in the 90's I knew quite a few people whose parents and/or grandparents didn't speak or understand english.

 

[Furniture]

That may be true now, however growing up in PEI in the 90's I knew quite a few people whose parents and/or grandparents didn't speak or understand english.

Where? Having grown-up in the 80s and 90's on PEI there were zero that I encountered or heard of.

That said, I suppose up near Tignish it might have been a thing back in the 90s, but back then I don't recall French signs anywhere either.