Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[Good2Golf]

Yes, in addition, they need to try and 'own' the centre. They will not win be 'right' or even 'centre-right', they need to carve out a piece to the centre, defend it and then enlarge it. Otherwise they are toast in 2029.

IMO, they gave up the centre when Stephen Harper fucked off Peter MacKay with the Great Alliance-PC Sharing Reneg of 2011.

 

[PrairieFella]

The Conservative Party has become so obsessed with being the perfect conservative party that it has forgotten the first job of a political party: winning elections.

They spent years building the modern Conservative machine around one central mission — defeating Justin Trudeau and dismantling his legacy.

Fair enough. That was a coherent strategy when Trudeau was the opponent.

But Trudeau is gone.

And instead of adapting, Conservatives seem determined to keep fighting his ghost while Mark Carney walks straight through the political opening they've left behind.

Carney is not Justin Trudeau. He is a progressive conservative in many respects: fiscally credible, institutionally respectable, comfortable with business, and perfectly capable of presenting centre-left policies in language that appeals to voters who would never identify as left-wing.

That should be setting off every alarm bell in Conservative headquarters.

Instead, too many Conservatives seem to believe that if they simply become more conservative, Canadians will eventually reward them.

Thats how they lost me. Everything was "everything is broken" not "here is our plan to actually fix things". Its perfectly embodied by thheir last platform document. It was about 40% the size of the Liberal platform and mostly pictures. Trudeau bad is not a plan to govern. Itll be CFP for until they get the illiberal soc cons in check and actually build a plan.

 

[Gordon Dundas/]

-PMMC May 2025

The man is not unbeatable. All the CPC have to do is offer a better option and get off their own proverbial dicks.

In other words what you're saying is the CPC is doomed .

 

[Halifax Tar]

In other words what you're saying is the CPC is doomed .

I believe things work in cycles. They will come back and the LPC will lose.

 

[Gordon Dundas/]

I believe things work in cycles. They will come back and the LPC will lose.

More then likely.

 

[RangerRay]

The Conservative Party has become so obsessed with being the perfect conservative party that it has forgotten the first job of a political party: winning elections.

They spent years building the modern Conservative machine around one central mission — defeating Justin Trudeau and dismantling his legacy.

Fair enough. That was a coherent strategy when Trudeau was the opponent.

But Trudeau is gone.

And instead of adapting, Conservatives seem determined to keep fighting his ghost while Mark Carney walks straight through the political opening they've left behind.

Carney is not Justin Trudeau. He is a progressive conservative in many respects: fiscally credible, institutionally respectable, comfortable with business, and perfectly capable of presenting centre-left policies in language that appeals to voters who would never identify as left-wing.

That should be setting off every alarm bell in Conservative headquarters.

Instead, too many Conservatives seem to believe that if they simply become more conservative, Canadians will eventually reward them.

As KLF in BC is finding out in spades, but with a much broader voting coalition than the federal party ever had to work with. Trying to appeal to the small pool of those drawn to the PPC is a weird flex when there are many more potential voters in the middle. But for now, PMMC owns them.

 

[armrdsoul77]

I believe things work in cycles. They will come back and the LPC will lose.

 

[MilEME09]

And now another resigns.....

Conservative MP Cathay Wagantall officially becomes 10th MP to resign…

National Newswatch: Canada's most comprehensive site for political news and views.

nationalnewswatch.com

 

[brihard]

And now another resigns.....

Conservative MP Cathay Wagantall officially becomes 10th MP to resign…

National Newswatch: Canada's most comprehensive site for political news and views.

nationalnewswatch.com

This one was previously announced. We’ll just see announced resignations actually take place as we get close to the fall sitting in three weeks, or other trigger events in the next month of two.

 

[HavokFour]

Brantford is going to be a pretty decisive race now. I wouldn't be surprised if it's fully in play with how things are happening.

 

[RangerRay]

And now another resigns.....

Conservative MP Cathay Wagantall officially becomes 10th MP to resign…

National Newswatch: Canada's most comprehensive site for political news and views.

nationalnewswatch.com

On one hand, she’s no spring chicken. Retirement is probably looking pretty good right now.

On the other, it was only a little over a year ago she stood for election presumably with a commitment to do the job for at least one term.

But we also don’t know the full circumstances to her decision either. Things could have changed in her personal life that now makes that commitment to her constituents impossible.

 

[RangerRay]

Read the room PP.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/livestory/live-updates-byelection-chicoutimi-le-fjord-vancouver-capilano-beaches-east-york-9.7327074

The only real surprise was the Quebec one, in that it was expected to a closer 3-way race. I don’t think the Tories were expected to win, but I don’t think they were expected to do this bad.

 

[Jarnhamar]

On one hand, she’s no spring chicken. Retirement is probably looking pretty good right now.

On the other, it was only a little over a year ago she stood for election presumably with a commitment to do the job for at least one term.

But we also don’t know the full circumstances to her decision either. Things could have changed in her personal life that now makes that commitment to her constituents impossible.

It will be interesting to see what her next job is.

 

[Good2Golf]

I believe things work in cycles. They will come back and the LPC will lose.

As the CPC proper, or does anything with a C that isn’t Canada/Canadian count?

It will be interesting to see what her next job is.

Working with Damien Kurek at Upstream Group?

 

[HavokFour]

More space to scale up the Globaleye production line.

Bombardier to buy Mitsubishi aerospace plant near Pearson airport

Bombardier Inc. says it will buy Mitsubishi’s main Canadian aerospace factory, bringing in-house an operation that was previously outsourced.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[dapaterson]

Isn't that the CRJ plant that they sold to Mitsubishi? Full circle?

 

[Czech_pivo]

More space to scale up the Globaleye production line.

Bombardier to buy Mitsubishi aerospace plant near Pearson airport

Bombardier Inc. says it will buy Mitsubishi’s main Canadian aerospace factory, bringing in-house an operation that was previously outsourced.

www.ctvnews.ca

Can that really be necessary? They aren’t building dozens and dozens of these planes, let alone a few hundred.

 

[Good2Golf]

Isn't that the CRJ plant that they sold to Mitsubishi? Full circle?

Sell high, buy low.

 

[dapaterson]

Sell high, buy low.
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Buy like you don't care about the price because you know you'll get it back several times over in billing it back to the government.

 

[HavokFour]

Can that really be necessary? They aren’t building dozens and dozens of these planes, let alone a few hundred.

Our furry eared friend seems to think it might be a possibility.

Bombardier to Acquire MHICA Assets in Mississauga, Ontario, Strengthening Bombardier’s Manufacturing Capabilities and Supply Chain

Press Release + Noah Note

www.truenorthstrategicreview.ca

https://twitter.com/x/status/2094880405811875964