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  1. Adamant

    Sarah Palin Thread

    But thats not what she said, she said she sold it for a profit on ebay...not true.  I'll throw up some obama links to misinformation, but there seems to be no shortage of people willing to do that, while holding Gov Palin and Sen McCain as some how above lying. 
  2. Adamant

    Sarah Palin Thread

    Lies? See links: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/05/AR2008090503722.html?referrer=digg : Governor's Plane Wasn't Sold on Ebay http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/08/AR2008090803088.html : Palin Billed State for Nights Spent at Home Thank...
  3. Adamant

    Sarah Palin Thread

    I'm all over Nuclear, put the plant in my back yard I'm cool with it.  But I don't think the McCain/Palin view of Drill drill drill is really going to solve anything.  This is because oil is a finite resource, the single largest oil supplier to the states is...Canada. But on lies, Palin has...
  4. Adamant

    And what's wrong with being a socialist? / from the Sarah Palin Thread

    The reason for "shoving these programmes" up people bungs, is about the abuses.  People abuse everything they can, greed assures that.  You cannot leave the majority of people that actually use, vice abuse, these social nets, because some (far from a majoirty) take advantage of them and greate...
  5. Adamant

    And what's wrong with being a socialist? / from the Sarah Palin Thread

    I said by way of loans and grants the same way most other students get their degrees.  Contrary to popular belief not all officers have their degrees paid for, and not all civy-U people have mommy and daddy footing the bill.  I paid for my school with student loans, and did all of my friends...
  6. Adamant

    And what's wrong with being a socialist? / from the Sarah Palin Thread

    I've said I'm with you on that side, I don't think my tax dollars should go to needles for drug-users or Xbox's for prisoners.  It's health care and social protective nets I worry about.  Time limits on welfare is not irresponsible, it's good financial planning.  One must, however, ensure that...
  7. Adamant

    Sarah Palin Thread

    The trooper had already been disciplined and the case had been closed, then the governor got involved after the fact.  That is not her job, no matter what way you cut it.  And if you count Foxnews, and Wall Street Journal as smears, I would appreciate an opinion on where I  should be getting my...
  8. Adamant

    And what's wrong with being a socialist? / from the Sarah Palin Thread

    Having a vested interest in ones citizens is not offering a "free ride" its giving someone the benefit of being better able to contribute to society.  Worrying about going broke from a cold, or not being able to have surgery because your insurance decides that it's no longer going to cover your...
  9. Adamant

    Sarah Palin Thread

    Obama has already said that he is running mainly on judgement, and judging by the last 8 years where the president was a former governor (read: experience), judgement may have been a nice thing to have.  Might have saved them some problems.  I will fully agree that he is running on personality...
  10. Adamant

    Air Force Temperate Combat Boot - Initial Issue

    I picked mine up the other day. I kinda like my old combat boots better.  I find with the lining they are almost as warm as the Cold/Wet Weather boot.  But as per, I'll wear them and continue to do so until the next new boot comes out.
  11. Adamant

    Sarah Palin Thread

    Hillary as VP wouldn't help.  The PUMA faction is for some reason (read sexism) voting Palin, despite the fact that she is counter to just about everysingle thing that Sen. Clinton stands for, except being a woman.  Obama doesn't need someone to offset her charisma he has Biden, who despite the...
  12. Adamant

    And what's wrong with being a socialist? / from the Sarah Palin Thread

    Teeps74, I agree with just about everything you said, minus the 6 month bit.  And I know wages go up over time and with your journeymans, I was just making the point that living at or below the poverty line does not a lazy person make.  There are innumerable reasons why someone may be in that...
  13. Adamant

    And what's wrong with being a socialist? / from the Sarah Palin Thread

    As a matter of fact, I brought up the electrician example as I have close friends who are both in the high tech side and the electrcian side and the high tech people I know make between 12-15 an hour, it's still not a whole lot but it's almost double what the apprentices are making. Working...
  14. Adamant

    And what's wrong with being a socialist? / from the Sarah Palin Thread

    Unfortunately the Poverty Line and the economy don't necessarily agree with you Ask an apprentice electrician who is working for 8 bucks an hour with a wife and kids if he's making more than a high tech worker. The fact of the matter is that these social programmes need to be there as a...
  15. Adamant

    Sarah Palin Thread

    Another annecdotal example but Mom with cancer and father with a pacemaker, both would be hundreds of thousands state-side, here nadda.  And to echo others, is there some places where it could be improved yes...but you want to see rationing of healthcare, look at the US, 47 million people who...
  16. Adamant

    Sarah Palin Thread

    That's my point, is that there is all kinds of Americans in the lower - lower middle Tax bracket, and those who work for small businesses who just cannot afford to have health insurance as much as they would love to.  But even in listening to the rhetoric it's almost as if the concept of...
  17. Adamant

    Sarah Palin Thread

    You already have severly increasing unemployment and severly increased spending (with completely illogical tax cuts) leading to massive deficit.  And an incumbant party who wants to maintain the status quo.  The one thing I will give the Dems is some of their increased spending will be on...
  18. Adamant

    Presidential election may be up for grabs

    I personally don't think either of them is a tremendously good candidate, however, I do not in  any way fear the economic backlash.  Quite the opposite I see it as an opportunity to realize that there are other countries who would be more than willing to purchase our resources (the first one...
  19. Adamant

    A Thread About The Legality of Using Others Bandwidth- Renamed From the Original

    I would imagine they would say Yes.   But really thats one reason some people in Urban centres leave their routers open, easy access to peoples personal information, via packets sent or by going through the folders on their computer.  
  20. Adamant

    A Thread About The Legality of Using Others Bandwidth- Renamed From the Original

    Bruce, muffin and others on that side: Is it illegal....no.  Is it immoral...yes Snafu-bar, 40below and your cohorts: It isn't illegal, but should you do it...NO!  Why not you ask, it's there to be used, Because you don't / shouldn't need to.  If you want free internet go to library.  If you...
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