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There's a post a couple of pages back regarding the decision to get rid of the old fleet. As for gaining the necessary skills to fly them ---that's a loaded question but certainly a good one. It looks like the pilots that hang out here aren't about to rush in with an answer so I'll give you my...

Here's something that may help with understanding how the CH-47 Chinook program works. Rather than building complete new Chinooks the old ones are recycled through the Boeing facility where they are reworked and modified to different models. Some new built from scratch models are also added to...

They wouldn't talk about it unless they knew that there was something in the works. However getting a viable operation up and running within the timeframe demanded by the commission would still have the the same problems that I noted regarding our previous Chinook  fleet. Hopefully someone will...

___Quote: "If they work there what more do we need other than a Maple Leaf? "  Lets not get into this.   We don't want to get into a conflict of interest scandal. Try a google search using Ti Domi and the name of a certain cabinet minister.  ;D

I must admit that I got somewhat away from the subject that got this whole thing going. I would consider the proposal to issue a contract for a couple of prototypes to be the ideal way to introduce the helicopter. Historically, we have bought production models- the CH-113A and previous Chinook...

Obviously we're all in the dark.-- Sort of like mushrooms.

I've found the SOR and have read it. Not understanding the process I'm left in the dark as to what happens to verify that the aircraft that is selected meets the criteria of the SOR.

I've not seen all of the requirements. Nothing more than the notice of intent document which indicates off the shelf models. I've heard of the proposal for more armour and some guns or whatever but nothing that would indicate that it would have to meet any technical specifications that are...

Do we have a 30 year plan?

What the U.S. Army or any other operators do in Alaska or other places has little in common with how we operate. We have no hangars (or anything else) up there and we have been flying in the Arctic since we've had an air force. I would consider that taking a Chinook up north and giving it a run...

Loachman: This is from my "brag bag".  8) I would have to dig out my log book for the exact details but in the good old days we flew a CH-113 from Ottawa to Alert--5 flying days. We spent 5 flying days laying cable from Alert with an improvised cable laying device--about 50 miles of  3/4 inch...

http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/site/newsroom/crew/index_e.asp?id=5293#s1   Some day in the future we will be called upon to provide resources for a mission to the Arctic and there is no doubt that a single Chinook will have to participate and it will be an immediate tasking. ...

I would suggest that a demonstration of the Chinooks capability to fulfill part of our requirements would be a trip through Arctic Canada on a published itinerary with a departure from Ottawa in February with a Boeing crew of two pilots and one technician. I had a look at the weather today in...

I'm not knocking the Chinook as a choice. I'm just pointing out some of the things from the previous Chinook experience. New and improved doesn't equate with problem free and I tend to be sceptical of accepting both the manufacturers claims and the experience of other users.

I'm just trying to keep it realistic. Nothing is ever as good as it looks and it's not what you know that gets you. It's what you don't know.

Boeing pays for the glossy publications but that's part of the sales pitch.

The last Chinooks that we bought were also much different than the Old Chinook of that time but they came with many of the old problems and a whole lot of new ones. One thing that became obvious was the inherent disconnect between Boeing and the U.S. Army in regard to technical problems...

Further to my previous post. To acquire Chinooks and get a unit up and running with trained and qualified personnel takes considerable time and effort. To put a new unit into an operational area with crews that have nothing more than the minimum qualifications to operate the aircraft would be...

It would take a long time to get the show up and running. The whole operation has to start from scratch and there is a vast difference between what's coming down the tube--CH-47s and the current helicopters.

Thanks much.