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IDAS isn't operational yet, they keep talking it up but I don't think anyone has fielded it. Tyrfing is in the same boat... haha. Those aren't questions they are just glossy brochure stuff that Canada doesn't care about at this time. The one thing that is in development that we do care about...

Four SPEIR were purchased. So three for the ships and one for training. Its the one you labeled on the first image (Mk 20 ?? label). Those squares are likely spotlights (not which is why there is one on each wing and one astern). Not entirely sure what other things you labeled are on the...

The army threads all seem to devolve into reorg conversations. The navy ones always end up arguing about ship names! Lol I think most if the post game analysis on the sub program is probably done at this point. Tune in next for contract agreement in 6-12 months (I expect it to be done in Nov...

That alone will probably make a bunch if people happy. Lot of maint types are NOT impressed with Babcock. Of course maint types are never happy. Even me... I can be a real asshole.

We can revisit this in (takes off shoes to count) more than ten years. It will be 8 years till we get four.

That whole post was well written (as all your posts are). The River Class idea will have first nations name plates for the various flats and passageways using the river's other names. Similar to how Burma Road became named after a prominent street in the namesake cities.

Yep probably number two or three. Then after that it doesn't really matter. They didn't magically do it as I stated before. Norway in particular stepped in an committed one of their own boats to sweeten the pot. TKMS bid that went in at the same time as Korean one stated 2033 as the first...

I know. It's weird. I think that a lot of this is reflexive because we normally don't get nice things. So anything nice we do get people are suspicious about. Also a lot of back seat project and contract experts here (myself included), who are missing a lot of information.

Won't be tribal names. But not because of GBA+ (which is a project management process honestly and not a naming process), its more complicated then that. Has a lot to do with a lot of those names being "language groups" and not actual tribes etc... @FSTO could explain better. From the RCD...

You're overstating things. Norway and Germany will still be getting the first of class submarines. Norway's current slots of 2029, 30 33, 35. Germany's are 31, 34. The Weir facility will be running at full capacity by 29 (400 staff are undergoing training right now). I find it likely that...

Recently LM bought Ultra Electronics. Not a CC or anything but it was like WesCam with L3. Good product with good foreign order sheet, picked up by foreign defence giant. Happens when you are publicly traded I suppose.

True, it was not part of the bid, however... Norway was putting their finger on the scales and Naval Strike Missile production did come up. In Newfoundland of all places. What that would look like (supplier, assembly, specific parts etc..) I have no idea. Kongsburg is exploring options. I...

Further evidence that the four by 34 is based on a government to government deal where Germany and Norway allow Canada to jump the queue and take their spots.

RCN is going to recruiting submariners right off the street soon. There will be a specific trade called Sub Warfare Specialist or Sub Operations Specialist or something like that.

TKMS has a vertical launch system they developed and are willing to fit it into a submarine if we asked. We didn't ask. As for timelines PM said 4 by 34. TKMS CEO stated first delivery 2033. However Germany and Norway were both reported to be willing to give up one of their own subs in the...

And yet places like India, Turkey, Netherlands, Australia, Singapore, Spain and Korea all seem to have done it. But Canada is incapable? We can do it. I agree we probably should not, as its a big lift and we can focus efforts in other directions.

So the build in Canada thing is perhaps not entirely what it seems. Marmen portion may be what G&M is going off of for their statement. TKMS at CANSEC explicitly pointed out to a number of industry media types that they did not put a "Canada build" part into their bid, but would do so if...

From wikipedia: Seaspan Shipyards signed a teaming agreement with TKMS to get a sovereign capability for the sustainement and through-life support of naval ships. Magellan signed an agreement for the production of heavy torpedoes and their maintenance, and participates in the development and...

Honestly it probably all came down to "build subs in Canada, more money stays here". I too was hoping for a shake up. But I can see the through line in the decision process and don't disagree with the points.