TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

[Colin Parkinson]

Good point on the stealth/pressure hull.

 

[Retired AF Guy]

A video discussing the 212CD and some of it's history and figures. I note they are about 4m longer than the Vic's and beam of 2.8m wider, but with roughly the same submerged tonnage.

So a submarine with a completely new design that is still under construction, using very expensive non-magnetic steel for its hull, a completely new CMS, and new weapon systems (IDAS and Tyrfing).

A lot of question marks if you ask me. **

** Full disclosure I was a Hanwha fan and a land-lubber with no submarine experience. So just my grousing.

 

[FJAG]

I favoured the Hanwha as well (as did most folks in this forum judging by the poll). It was mostly because of the schedule and the VLS . . . but they're both good and each has its good points - my thoughts too come from a landlubbers point of view. I totally got the political issue on this and the tie to Europe. We're earning a lot of brownie points at last. Maybe Canada will see a seat on the Security Council again (for whatever that's worth). It's good to have other friends when your best buddy goes weird.

 

[Underway]

So a submarine with a completely new design that is still under construction, using very expensive non-magnetic steel for its hull, a completely new CMS, and new weapon systems (IDAS and Tyrfing).

A lot of question marks if you ask me. **

** Full disclosure I was a Hanwha fan and a land-lubber with no submarine experience. So just my grousing.

IDAS isn't operational yet, they keep talking it up but I don't think anyone has fielded it. Tyrfing is in the same boat... haha. Those aren't questions they are just glossy brochure stuff that Canada doesn't care about at this time.

The one thing that is in development that we do care about is the Anti Torp Torp. That has surface fleet implications as well.