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  1. Oldgateboatdriver

    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    I think it's fair: The other yards had years to upgrade their facilities, but you are not willing to give Davie a similar amount of time to upgrade theirs. I bet you don't know what they have done to date to upgrade them since getting the Agreement signed.
  2. Oldgateboatdriver

    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    No, because Asterix was a one off self created product that nobody else thought to offer at the time, but not part of the NSS at all and required no "shipyard upgrade to NSS levels".
  3. Oldgateboatdriver

    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    We might be a little hard on Davie. Agreement signed with Irving in 2011, first ship delivered by Irving in 2020: 9 years. Agreement signed with Seaspan in 2012, first delivery in 2017: 5 years (a simpler ship). Agreement signed with Davie in 2023, and the first ship on their list is the...
  4. Oldgateboatdriver

    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    They can. But for purposes other than PR, why would they?
  5. Oldgateboatdriver

    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    Yes. It is called the Canadian Defence Corvette. But they have to kick start it right now.
  6. Oldgateboatdriver

    CAN-USA Tariff Strife (split from various pol threads)

    I can tell you, in confidence, that NASA has been after the Canadian government to pay its "due to fly" on the space station by way of Bombardier's private jets for years (because they would not need to have money appropriated to the purchase if paid in goods), but Canada for budgetary internal...
  7. Oldgateboatdriver

    New Canadian Shipbuilding Strategy

    I am not convinced the battleships production was halted because they wanted to build more frigates and destroyers, but more because they realized almost right away that battleships were not the top dog anymore and rather just big targets with no benefits. They did continue and increased the...
  8. Oldgateboatdriver

    New Canadian Shipbuilding Strategy

    Except it wasn't true in 1939, and I personally doubt it would be true today. The corvettes did not win the battle of the Atlantic. They provided numbers so ships could be put around the convoys, but they did little in actual terms of protection and rather just made the Merchant mariners feel...
  9. Oldgateboatdriver

    New Canadian Shipbuilding Strategy

    And yet, in terms of high end warship construction, it is like "just tomorrow". After all, the lead ship of a new class can take anywhere between five to seven years to build and bring to operational status. And regardless of the first Sea Lord's view on "bastion" Atlantic (or is it American...
  10. Oldgateboatdriver

    British Military Current Events

    While journalists always make a scene when witnesses take that position, it is important to remember that, in law, absolutely nothing can be inferred from the refusal to answer a question on the basis of that privilege. A witness who, in fact, has done nothing wrong, can use that privilege to...
  11. Oldgateboatdriver

    Funny Pix & Video Thread

    For all you air people:
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  13. Oldgateboatdriver

    Trump administration 2024-2028

    That is not what we are doing. What we are doing is interfering in their mid-term elections. Didn't you know?
  14. Oldgateboatdriver

    17 Oct 2026: Major fire at CFB Wainwright

    Someone bless and pray for those SAR techs and all the medical personnel. Because if it is death by fire as reported above, they will have nightmares for quite a while.
  15. Oldgateboatdriver

    Iran Super Thread- Merged

    I don't see why it would be "bullshit". If you are the government of country at war (say Iran, for instance ;)), why on earth would agree to a "request" by the other side to let them bomb a part of your country (any part, regardless of use) as a "one-off, non-retaliated" strike? The opposite -...
  16. Oldgateboatdriver

    Women's Rugby World Cup

    And one more thumbs up to Canada's women team: They beat the Roses of England to give them their first lost in years! Fantastic game, for those who didn't get to watch it. Summary below...
  17. Oldgateboatdriver

    The Bombing of Pan Am 103

    Pretty well. I have friends who served on the MCDV's that were tasked with Swissair 111 also. Definitely a "marking" event.
  18. Oldgateboatdriver

    Police Folk Allegedly Behaving Badly

    Except, those are not police officers of the city of Montreal. The scene is the inside of the Montreal court house (I know it well - no, not as a "regular customer", thank you!) and those are provincial Special Constables who are responsible for all of the court's security and prisoners...
  19. Oldgateboatdriver

    Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

    Is that pronounced in the same tone Kirk once admitted " I have, from time to time, disobeyed orders"
  20. Oldgateboatdriver

    Trump administration 2024-2028

    Colin, since Kennedy's failed Bay of Pigs debacle, its been very unclear as to who is stifling peoples future in Cuba.
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