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punch your OC right in the face...that should do the trick

its hard honest work making a good cup of coffee...have a little respect here....

Fair enough. Point taken mate

...and my figures were correct.

Am I starting to make too much sense that it hurts to hear? Sorry

:salute:

? Should I dig up a bible somewhere?

True.  However, I can just as easily replace "effective logisitics" with "effective combat troops" and the quote would still ring true.  So, we established that we NEED both.  Without security you cannot conduct your logisitics and vice-versa. But the problem being stated here is we tried to...

Support staff dont win wars or hold ground.  Combat troops do.  I never meant to slag supprt staff/logistics.  Every military needs them...and I mean that, we NEED them.  But they will not "win" the war. As for the figures and where I got them, the figures are drawn from that article/book.  If...

2, 800 troops in Kandahar. 600-800 fighting troops.  Im curious as to how you can claim that?

I have to agree.  The problem wasnt with the individual Canadian troops.  They wanted to fight.  The problem is the lack of aggression and risk adverse nature of some of our leadership.  Argue what you want, but its true.  We are very much a logistics-based army.  Too many pencil-pushers, not...

A good technique....didnt it work well for you guys during basic? You guys did have this done to you during basic right??? ....right??

Probably no more than the average 20 year old political science student though. The problem is the arrogance of "been there, know it all". And yes, I have been there multiple times

Exactly

very valid point

Fair enough, life goes on.  I just think units like that have a more difficult time filling their ranks if a lot of guys decide to "retire" before the move. Im sure they considered that as a factor though...

No, no inside info, was thinking along the same lines.  Ottawa VS Trenton with families and what not....must suck.....no offense if your from Trenton