If you haven't been to Afghanistan shut up.
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Sythen said:
Ummm. If you were "rifleman #3", you may like to know that you were not in the "Middle East", but "Southwest Asia".
Yes, "rifleman #3" may be far more knowledgable and informed than the average citizen, but (s)he is far from an expert on the Region.
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Probably no more than the average 20 year old political science student though. The problem is the arrogance of "been there, know it all". And yes, I have been there multiple times
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The term "Middle East" can take in all or part of North Africa and Western Asia (specifically southwestern Asia).
Depends on the person using the term, and sometimes the context. Asia, Africa - easy to specify. Middle East is a general term, not specific....like Central Alberta - at what point does an area stop being "central"?
Depends on the person using the term, and sometimes the context. Asia, Africa - easy to specify. Middle East is a general term, not specific....like Central Alberta - at what point does an area stop being "central"?
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LieutenantPrivate said:
I believe that was said:
As for your 20 year old political science student.........well.....we won't go there. :
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RDJP said:
I guess we can just leave that to "rifleman #3" reading the inscription on their medal. ;D
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2 Cdo said:
I hate that one as much as "My daddy fights for your freedom". What a bunch of B/S.
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dogger1936 said:
What about "If you like your freedom, thank a vet"? There's some truth to that one, but I find it a bit discomfiting as well.
In each case, there seems to be a worthwhile, subtle point that ends up getting lost in the in-your-face nature of the delivery.
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dogger1936 said:
My daddy, My boyfriend, My husband, etc fights for your freedom, as well as "you think your life is stressful, I'm a army wife.. Petawawa is filled with those stickers...
1.) No one cares
2.) You're in Petawawa having a spouse in the military doesn't make you unique or special
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bridges said:
I find it all pretty pretentious.
-Skeletor- said:
I couldn't agree more. Same as this if you haven't been to Afghanistan shut up thing. Anyone who posts that kind of drivel is a loser looking for attention. Wow you've been overseas to do your job....my f'ing hero.
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George Wallace said:As for your 20 year old political science student.........well.....we won't go there. :
As a 20+ year old political science student, I would be offended... if it was in any way shape or form not true.
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dogger1936 said:
I don't see a problem with this statement for the military IS commonly referred to as the entitiy that fights for our (democratic) freedom (ref: Vets usually). The problem that I would have from it is the childishness of it. It's saying, in a more mature way, 'Yeah, well my daddy can beat up your daddy'. I do not see (or personally haven't at least) cops' cars say 'my daddy keeps your freedom safe', teachers' cars say 'my daddy educates you on freedom', or anything of that sort. This need for bragging countermands the quiet professionalism we should all have.
I did not join to be thanked by every citizen, get a gold star or blue ribbon for my participation. I proudly do it and never have the urge to chest-thump to my male peers in order to defend and/or justify my employment. If people want a pat-on-the-back for titles like being a soldier, a soldier's spouse, how hard it is to run towards gunfire or even how hard it is to do PT every moning (and get paid for it), then perhaps the military is not a place for them. Perhaps grade school is a better place where you are given gold stars and blue ribbons for everything from showing up to a mandatory event to washing your hands after using the bathroom.
I do not believe in the practice of demanding thanks from people. So you don't support the troops - my employment is to protect the right that gives your the freedom to voice that. So I fought for your freedom - if I didn't, someone else would have been told to it. So my life as an army wife is stressful - it was my choice and will continue to be my choice. Demanding gratitude from people via even the form of bumper stickers is hypocritical of military ethos.
I'll stop there b/c I have a feeling I offended some already. If I did offend you, feel free to stand in front of me....at the Tim Hortens lineup.
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The only things that I personally repost on my facebook page are the "Military Minds" posts that get sent around, as I know several people who are afflicted by PTSD, and 1 who killed himself because of it.
Most of the people I deployed only deployed in order to get the tour money... there were certainly not a whole lot of "defending freedom" conversations or political aspirations.
Most of the people I deployed only deployed in order to get the tour money... there were certainly not a whole lot of "defending freedom" conversations or political aspirations.
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Bird_Gunner45 said:
I find it ironic that we push ourselves as defenders of freedom and freedom of speech ... yet then see some with (alleged) 'balls' enough telling other people who, as taxpayers and voting citizens, to STFU about their entitled democratic opinion on it.
The irony in that slays me at a double face palm level.
"We fight for your freedom/freedom of speech ... but don't you dare fucking use it."
How absolutely stoopid is that all things considered.
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Someone needs to make a bumper sticker that says "I fight for Oil" ;D
