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[Altair]

Gonna be very interesting seeing what comes out of House and Senate Armed Services Committees on this. They should be able to get the full imagery, audio, logs, who ordered what, how, etc.

This is the president who pardoned blackwater guards for the Nisour Square killings.

The only thing that's interesting is how fast the pardons get issued.

 

[brihard]

This is the president who pardoned blackwater guards for the Nisour Square killings.

The only thing that's interesting is how fast the pardons get issued.

I recognize the likely inevitability of that. It will still be good to see whatever shred of accountability this administration is capable of.

Those responsible may also have limited their options for international travel post-office.

 

[AmmoTech90]

Only the best people.

That chopper is fucked. Along with the turtle.

A prediction?

 

[Czech_pivo]

I recognize the likely inevitability of that. It will still be good to see whatever shred of accountability this administration is capable of.

Those responsible may also have limited their options for international travel post-office.

Maybe, hopefully.
The US did allow both Putin and Bibi into their country without being bundled off to Den Hague.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

He's not been found guilty yet. Nor do we have all the facts. Speculation and innuendo are not reasonable doubt or absolute truth. We should put the torches and pitchforks away until the story develops further.

 

[brihard]

He's not been found guilty yet. Nor do we have all the facts. Speculation and innuendo are not reasonable doubt or absolute truth. We should put the torches and pitchforks away until the story develops further.

I’m taking WaPo’s reporting at face value. They’re solid and have broken a number of stories from inside the pentagon in the past year that proved accurate. Much of this story is already admitted or corroborated. They’re a hell of a lot more credible than the current administration. The White House spokeswoman today admitted, after explicit denials by DoD, that the bulk of the substance of the second strike allegations and simply tried to claim it was legal. We have numerous lawyers offering informed input on the legality of such a strike. We have the early resignation of the SOUTHCOM commander. We have several members of committees who have access to classified reports urging US s vice members to disobey illegal orders just weeks after this. We have the video of the first strike where the target bot was very clearly dead and burning. We have bipartisan support from the armed services committees of both houses of Congress for getting to the bottom of this.

We have enough audible quacking and visibly waddling waterfowl to say there’s a duck here. Who, specifically, individually ordered what and is accountable for what remains to be seen, but every credible interpretation at this point is that there has been a crime of some sort committed.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I’m taking WaPo’s reporting at face value. They’re solid and have broken a number of stories from inside the pentagon in the past year that proved accurate. Much of this story is already admitted or corroborated. They’re a hell of a lot more credible than the current administration. The White House spokeswoman today admitted, after explicit denials by DoD, that the bulk of the substance of the second strike allegations and simply tried to claim it was legal. We have numerous lawyers offering informed input on the legality of such a strike. We have the early resignation of the SOUTHCOM commander. We have several members of committees who have access to classified reports urging US s vice members to disobey illegal orders just weeks after this. We have the video of the first strike where the target bot was very clearly dead and burning. We have bipartisan support from the armed services committees of both houses of Congress for getting to the bottom of this.

We have enough audible quacking and visibly waddling waterfowl to say there’s a duck here. Who, specifically, individually ordered what and is accountable for what remains to be seen, but every credible interpretation at this point is that there has been a crime of some sort committed.

I'll stick with my distrust of the MSM. The 'Seditious 6', in my mind, are not credible. They are just democrats with a soapbox that, like most democrats, despise the fact that Trump was elected by a majority of Americans.

I remember people siding with the biden administration, swearing up and down, based on media reports that the Mar-a-Lago raid was 100% legal and warranted. That Trump had met his Waterloo. That there was so much he did illegally, it was a slam dunk. We know now it was vindictive, wrought with illegalities and nothing more than a blatant attempt to stop Trump running for a second term. Smith turned out to be crooked as a dogs leg. The same can be said for Bragg, James and Willis. Soros syncophants who had their markers called in and told to drum up charges. There were lots of people counting ducks on that one also.

CNN, as much as they can be believed, have reported a 43% approval rating for Trump. The highest this century. Eclipsing Bush and Obama with there 30+%.

If Hegseth is guilty, I'm sure he'll be dealt with. I can't even imagine that the House will allow Articles of Impeachment to go forward against Trump.

Time will tell though. There are enough high level democrats, in and out of government, that see their future in prison stripes. Given what they've tried in the past, and failed, nothing should be seen as to radical or illegal enough to stop them from using it against Trump.

I just can't get wrapped around the axle with speculation. No matter how excited and convinced others are in there hopes to see the Trump administration dismantled.

 

[brihard]

I'll stick with my distrust of the MSM. The 'Seditious 6', in my mind, are not credible. They are just democrats with a soapbox that, like most democrats, despise the fact that Trump was elected by a majority of Americans.

I remember people siding with the biden administration, swearing up and down, based on media reports that the Mar-a-Lago raid was 100% legal and warranted. That Trump had met his Waterloo. That there was so much he did illegally, it was a slam dunk. We know now it was vindictive, wrought with illegalities and nothing more than a blatant attempt to stop Trump running for a second term. Smith turned out to be crooked as a dogs leg. The same can be said for Bragg, James and Willis. Soros syncophants who had their markers called in and told to drum up charges. There were lots of people counting ducks on that one also.

CNN, as much as they can be believed, have reported a 43% approval rating for Trump. The highest this century. Eclipsing Bush and Obama with there 30+%.

If Hegseth is guilty, I'm sure he'll be dealt with. I can't even imagine that the House will allow Articles of Impeachment to go forward against Trump.

Time will tell though. There are enough high level democrats, in and out of government, that see their future in prison stripes. Given what they've tried in the past, and failed, nothing should be seen as to radical or illegal enough to stop them from using it against Trump.

I just can't get wrapped around the axle with speculation. No matter how excited and convinced others are in there hopes to see the Trump administration dismantled.

The White House literally said it happened and claimed it was legal. Not sure what else to tell you.

 

[Lumber]

We know now it was vindictive, wrought with illegalities and nothing more than a blatant attempt to stop Trump running for a second term.

Jesus Christ, did you even just browse the indictment? Or the DOJ also part of your vindictive "seditious 6" willing to just make up evidence?