2026 US-Denmark Tensions/End of NATO

[Czech_pivo]

Controlled trade is one thing, but being a tariff free back door to material dumped into NA priced below market (CCP subsidized, slave labor) is another. Chinese EVs is another issue, security specifically.

One of the objections to the US Trade deal is the approach to trading with China. The US is trying to secure itself from China's predatory methods. Canada ought to take a firm position on that with the US, but it seems to be resisting.

Diversifying away from the US is one of Canada's stated goals. But getting more involved with China is the mistake imo. The risks are already known:

-Economic coercion or sudden market loss
-Chinese supply chain dependance
-Tech and IP security
-Cybersecurity and espionage
-Foreign interference
-causing tensions with more important allies

I'm not saying Canada should avoid all trade with China, but I do not trust the LPC to not screw this up. I think the LPC in general admires how Brussels or the CCP operates.

To be more resilient Canada should emulate the US's rate of internal trade. The fact we can't freely trade internally is a major encumbrance for us. This probably should have been number 1 on PMMC to-do list... instead of running around the world. Some projects should be designated in the National Interest have been forced through months ago... instead we have MOUs and vetos handed out to small regional interests.

Besides a few thousand Chinese EV's (EV's that Ford's CEO is openly talking about teaming up with to build in the US), what products does Canada specifically buy from the China that the US doesn't buy?

Just to be clear - Canada does about 6-7% of its total trade with China - how much of the US's total trade does it do with China?

Answer - about 10-11%. So what the 'F' is the real issue here? If Canada increases its total trade with China by 50% it will be at BEST equal to the total trade that the US already has with China.

 

[QV]

You could replace China with USA in this part of the post and it would be the same.

Economic coercion and sudden market loss? Check.
US supply chain dependance? Check.
Tech and IP security issues? Check.
Cybersecurity and espionage? Check.
Foreign interference? Check.
Causing tensions with our allies? Check.

You would have to do an honest comparison on who your ideals align with.

This is basically a good vs evil distinction (CCP bad not everyday Chinese citizens). China severely restricts civil liberties, has a million Uyghurs in re-education camps, adopts predatory trade practices and the state is the market, it's legal system is an instrument of party control, its a totalitarian state run system.

To compare the US to this is hyperbole. I suspect elements of the progressive left in the LPC and EU see value in many aspects of China's systems.

 

[Good2Golf]

To be more resilient Canada should emulate the US's rate of internal trade. The fact we can't freely trade internally is a major encumbrance for us. This probably should have been number 1 on PMMC to-do list... instead of running around the world. Some projects should be designated in the National Interest have been forced through months ago... instead we have MOUs and vetos handed out to small regional interests.

This part I have no issue with at all, agree in principle. He did get that movement going, but to be honest, I see more residual resistance from the provinces unphuquing themselves than anything the Feds have yet to do. The only other comment I’d make is that I think the Feds should be moving out on a nationally-directed and funded pipeline east, one leg curving through N.Ont down to the refineries in S.Ont and the other leg up to Churchill RFN!

 

[Czech_pivo]

This part I have no issue with at all, agree in principle. He did get that movement going, but to be honest, I see more residual resistance from the provinces unphuquing themselves than anything the Feds have yet to do. The only other comment I’d make is that I think the Feds should be moving out on a nationally-directed and funded pipeline east, one leg curving through N.Ont down to the refineries in S.Ont and the other leg up to Churchill RFN!

Quebec is the main sticking point on many issues on this. Some of this will be because an election is just about to occur and some of it is just plain typical for how things have been over the last 50yrs.

 

[QV]

This part I have no issue with at all, agree in principle. He did get that movement going, but to be honest, I see more residual resistance from the provinces unphuquing themselves than anything the Feds have yet to do. The only other comment I’d make is that I think the Feds should be moving out on a nationally-directed and funded pipeline east, one leg curving through N.Ont down to the refineries in S.Ont and the other leg up to Churchill RFN!

Ok, then how about this:

To forge a closer more strategic relationship with the US:

Canada must align it's economic strength with continental security. By becoming America's most reliable economic and military partner, we unlock massive resource wealth to fund critical domestic priorities like healthcare, tech, and space exploration, and yes even green initiatives.

1. Continental resource security and trade alignment

• satisfy US demand first. Guarentee secure export of critical minerals, oil, NG, to the US ensuring their supply chains are fully insulated from global volatility
• Approve projects in the National Interest. Fast track major energy and infra projects bypassing local gridlock
• Move resources to global export markets. Build the pipes and infra to export surplus resources globally, but only after satisfying US domestic requirements. This also acts as a hedge, if US demand dips.

2. Unleash domestic economy

• eliminate interprovincial trade barriers that restrict the free flow of goods, services, labor between provinces. This is being done as I understand it... but do it faster!
• Fund healthcare. Channel massive windfall of new tax and royalty revenue generated by resource exports directly into funding critical healthcare improvements.
• Re-invest. Allocate resource revenues into important sectors such as new tech, AI, and space developments. This includes green energy but not to include throttling our resources development to achieve green.

3. Continental Defence. We must jealously guard our military and economic relationship with the US against competing interests.

• Military integration. Integrate our defence industrial bases to ensure continental soveriegnty.
• Meet our NORAD and NATO commitments - arguably well underway.
• align our foreign investment screening and tariff policies with the US to protect North America from hostile actors. This is hard for the globalists.

4. Negotiate from strength. Seek concessions from the US on what remains important to Canada.

• Buy American exemptions for Canadian companies, goods and contractors from US protectionist laws.
• Border supply chain fluidity, frictionless movement of goods and pre-cleared labor across the border
• Strategic tech sharing. Full access to restricted US defence tech, partnerships, joint space exploration in exchange for our critical mineral supply.

The current obstacles to this, as I can see are as follows:

• The EU pivot
• China concessions
• Ongoing trade tensions causing friction (which if we committed to #1-3, than 4 might be easier for us)
• we have not fast tracked national interest projects
• Media and political characterization of Mean Trump/US bad/poor victim Canada

 

[suffolkowner]

Ok, then how about this:

To forge a closer more strategic relationship with the US:

Canada must align it's economic strength with continental security. By becoming America's most reliable economic and military partner, we unlock massive resource wealth to fund critical domestic priorities like healthcare, tech, and space exploration, and yes even green initiatives.

1. Continental resource security and trade alignment

• satisfy US demand first. Guarentee secure export of critical minerals, oil, NG, to the US ensuring their supply chains are fully insulated from global volatility
• Approve projects in the National Interest. Fast track major energy and infra projects bypassing local gridlock
• Move resources to global export markets. Build the pipes and infra to export surplus resources globally, but only after satisfying US domestic requirements. This also acts as a hedge, if US demand dips.

2. Unleash domestic economy

• eliminate interprovincial trade barriers that restrict the free flow of goods, services, labor between provinces. This is being done as I understand it... but do it faster!
• Fund healthcare. Channel massive windfall of new tax and royalty revenue generated by resource exports directly into funding critical healthcare improvements.
• Re-invest. Allocate resource revenues into important sectors such as new tech, AI, and space developments. This includes green energy but not to include throttling our resources development to achieve green.

3. Continental Defence. We must jealously guard our military and economic relationship with the US against competing interests.

• Military integration. Integrate our defence industrial bases to ensure continental soveriegnty.
• Meet our NORAD and NATO commitments - arguably well underway.
• align our foreign investment screening and tariff policies with the US to protect North America from hostile actors. This is hard for the globalists.

4. Negotiate from strength. Seek concessions from the US on what remains important to Canada.

• Buy American exemptions for Canadian companies, goods and contractors from US protectionist laws.
• Border supply chain fluidity, frictionless movement of goods and pre-cleared labor across the border
• Strategic tech sharing. Full access to restricted US defence tech, partnerships, joint space exploration in exchange for our critical mineral supply.

The current obstacles to this, as I can see are as follows:

• The EU pivot
• China concessions
• Ongoing trade tensions causing friction (which if we committed to #1-3, than 4 might be easier for us)
• we have not fast tracked national interest projects
• Media and political characterization of Mean Trump/US bad/poor victim Canada

is this really different than what they have already?
what are we getting in return?