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2026 US-Denmark Tensions/End of NATO

So here's a map to make you spit out your morning coffee -

He's gone after one.

He's actively pursuing another.

He's mused about the 3rd (Canada) in the past.

Alleged trump whisperers: he's just trolling.

Me:Austria, Czechoslovakia, Poland.
 
He's gone after one.

He's actively pursuing another.

He's mused about the 3rd (Canada) in the past.

Alleged trump whisperers: he's just trolling.
Dude, this is pretty transparently targeted.

Any thoughts about the post beyond thoughts about how some here will respond to this post?
 
That is less controversial than talking about a scenario where over 40m people died.
Unhinged leaders can easily stumble ass backwards into such scenarios.

We are in a discussion about a NATO-US conflict
 
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I wouldnt share texts from a friend, or an ex, with anyone.

Meanwhile

A series of text exchanges between Donald Trump and European leaders about ownership of Greenland have sensationally been released.

The US president has pledged to tell European leaders at this week's forum in Davos, Switzerland, that "we will have to have" Greenland.

Messages released on Monday between Trump and Norway's Prime Minister Jonas Støre revealed the president no longer felt obliged to think only of peace after he was not awarded the Nobel Peace Prize last year.

On Tuesday, Trump has posted his own text exchanges with French President Emmanuel Macron and Nato Secretary General Mark Rutte.
 
He's gone after one.

He's actively pursuing another.

He's mused about the 3rd (Canada) in the past.

Alleged trump whisperers: he's just trolling.

Me:Austria, Czechoslovakia, Poland.

Canada should take this seriously and adequately prepare to defend its sovereignty. I fully expect the "assault-style" rifle and scary gun Liberal theft program to be cancelled any day now.
 
Canada should take this seriously and adequately prepare to defend its sovereignty. I fully expect the "assault-style" rifle and scary gun Liberal theft program to be cancelled any day now.

This is as silly as Americans who believe they could fight the US military.

But way to go. Deflect from the real threat.
 
Missed about 25 pages on this thread, apologies if this is a re-post/repeat.

Was curious about the anti-coersion legislation; here is a pretty good primer if anyone is interested.

What is the EU anti-coercion 'bazooka' it could use against the US over Greenland?


So not just tariffs, but actual import and export restrictions, as well as restrictions/bans on companies even bidding on contracts. Especially when they get into big IT ones that tend to be long term, I imagine companies like Google, Amazon etc that are pushing cloud computing are really happy about this.

At this point, it's the only way to actually stop this behaviour.

There's a theory I heard this morning. There's two Trumps. TACO Trump and FAFO Trump. The strong get TACO Trump (see China and Russia). The weak get FAFO Trump (Venezuela, Europe). There's no point negotiating with him. You gotta show a willingness to deal pain on the US and eat pain in return.

For Europe, a huge part of this is driven by techbros who despise the EU as the only authority that can and will successfully regulate them in the world. Imposing a massive cost on them might actually bring them to heel. And get them to pressure Republicans and Trump.

As for Canada, zero chance. I see no willingness to eat serious economic pain here. Albertans would sooner join the US than stop shipping them oil. Saskatchewan stop shipping potash? Quebec stop selling electrons south? No chance. It's why he perceives us as prey. We exhibit prey behaviour.
 
At this point, it's the only way to actually stop this behaviour.

There's a theory I heard this morning. There's two Trumps. TACO Trump and FAFO Trump. The strong get TACO Trump (see China and Russia). The weak get FAFO Trump (Venezuela, Europe). There's no point negotiating with him. You gotta show a willingness to deal pain on the US and eat pain in return.

For Europe, a huge part of this is driven by techbros who despise the EU as the only authority that can and will successfully regulate them in the world. Imposing a massive cost on them might actually bring them to heel. And get them to pressure Republicans and Trump.
If Europe removes their recognition of US patents, there is going to be absolute hell to pay, on one side of the atlantic or the other.
 
If it were me, I would have Denmark open a NATO Arctic Training Center in Greenland with a permanent presence. I would then invite Canada to have the Rangers participate and build a similar programme in Greenland, if one doesn't already exist.
The Europeans don't know where we stand.

We are still undecided on the F35.

We are still part of NORAD and are sending forces to the next NORAD exercise in Greenland(which would make us complicit if anything kicks off)

We haven't commited troops to Greenland.

Until we pick a lane, the Europeans have zero reason to trust us.
 
If Europe removes their recognition of US patents, there is going to be absolute hell to pay, on one side of the atlantic or the other.

Escalation ladder. They don't drop everything on day one. There should be some clear declarations and a defined ladder.

But also, how can EU do anything when they have stooges like this:



That's exactly why Trump thinks they are weak. We've got similar issues with various Premiers at home.
 
Canada should take this seriously and adequately prepare to defend its sovereignty. I fully expect the "assault-style" rifle and scary gun Liberal theft program to be cancelled any day now.

Its time for a gun distribution not a gun "buyback".

What stops him from doing a Venezuela style operation on Ottawa? It would be way easier.

Picture it.

Weeks before anything happens, “tourists” drift into the Ottawa–Gatineau area. Covert operators quietly building a temporary command and surveillance hub a few blocks from power. They watch convoys, map patrols, tag cameras, log which lights are on in which buildings at 3 AM.
Then, one night at 2 AM, while everyone is asleep and the country is doped on the belief that “it can’t happen here”, a column of light armored vehicles rolls off Fort Drum and heads for the border at Cornwall. On the Canadian side: a couple of CBSA officers staring, frozen, as steel and guns pour across the bridge like a tide they have no hope of stopping. No declaration. No warning. No heroic standoff. Just engines, headlights, and an hour of empty highway and sleeping towns to Ottawa.
By the time anyone in authority understands what’s happening, the column is already in the capital and the “tourists” have flipped the switch on comms, security, and access points.
And then the sun rises. You don’t wake up to a dramatic battle for Canada, jets dogfighting over the river and tanks trading shots on Wellington. You wake up, make coffee, look out the window and realize you now live in America, and nobody even fired a shot trying to stop it.
 
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