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2026 US-Denmark Tensions/End of NATO

"Mark," Trump said: "Canada lives because of the United States. Remember that, Mark, the next time you make your statements.

tommy wiseau oh hai mark GIF by The Room
 
So the threat of military force is off the table, for now, so I guess someone got into his ear telling him the horrible implications from it.

Now I guess we will watch him use tariffs to put ever increasing pressure on allies of Denmark to try to get them to cave.

At least until the SCOTUS rules on tariffs at somepoint in 2029.

Or it was never actually on the table after all. 🤯
 
An interesting read -

Lagarde walks out of Lutnick speech in Davos critical of Europe, sources say​



ECB President Christine Lagarde walked out of a dinner at the World Economic Forum during a speech critical of Europe by ‌U.S. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick, and the hosts called off the event ‌before dessert, sources familiar with the matter said.

A ‌couple of hundred people were invited to the dinner. Fink ended the dinner before dessert after the heckling incident as people were walking out, one of the sources said.
 
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Yeah but that’s exactly the attitude Carney was talking about anyways. That was probably a significantly more tempered response than some of the contemplated possibilities Carney reasonably anticipated from his speech. Trump being mad about it was already ‘priced in’.
Give it a day or to before his socials light up.
 
An interesting read -

Lagarde walks out of Lutnick speech in Davos critical of Europe, sources say​



ECB President Christine Lagarde walked out of a dinner at the World Economic Forum during a speech critical of Europe by ‌U.S. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick, and the hosts called off the event ‌before dessert, sources familiar with the matter said.

A ‌couple of hundred people were invited to the dinner. Fink ended the dinner before dessert after the heckling incident as people were walking out, one of the sources said.

All these guys should be PNG'd after this administration is over. Lutnick, Bessent, Miller, Musk, etc. All the folks who enabled this attack on Europe.
 
All these guys should be PNG'd after this administration is over. Lutnick, Bessent, Miller, Musk, etc. All the folks who enabled this attack on Europe.
The heckler was none other than Al Gore - true fact. He's admitted that he was one of many hecklers.

I wonder if Carney was at the dinner as well.
 
Then why not directly state that? What benefit has leaving the threat of invasion implied provided America?

All it has done is draw together the rest of NATO against America, and inspired even more people to plan to do less business with America.

Trump's fumble with words and purposeful theatrics for the rest.
 
I saw a post on FB from some, probably foreign run, group. Asking if you would be willing to go fight for Canada. And it was awash with 50, 60 and 70+ year old's all beating their chest and ready to fight. I tried to find some youngins in the comments but I didn't find any in my cursory look.



Again people come to grips with how tenuous these agreements are. As we are seeing words mean nothing. No, no one is coming. And Article 5 doesn't mean shit.

I'm surprised you called the USA competent.



Fancy polls you have there. Wrong question though. Its easy to say yes Canada should fight. The real question is how many will go themselves ?



You need to read that article and read the demographic make ups of the who is willing to do what.
You couldnt find youngins because they havent been on facebook in a decade
 
And the hits keep coming.

Trump says he reached Greenland deal ‘framework’ with NATO, backs off Europe tariffs​



  • President Donald Trump said he and NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte have “formed the framework of a future deal with respect to Greenland.”
  • Trump said that as a result of that negotiation, he would no longer impose punitive tariffs on a slew of European countries that were set to begin Feb. 1.
Now this part from his Truth Social posting is interesting:

"Based upon a very productive meeting that I have had with the Secretary General of NATO, Mark Rutte, we have formed the framework of a future deal with respect to Greenland and, in fact, the entire Arctic Region."

What does that mean to us here in Canada?
Additional discussions are being held concerning The Golden Dome as it pertains to Greenland. Further information will be made available as discussions progress.
 
Comments from someone inside the room during Trump's speech today. Based on her comments, Carney was present during the speech.

An interesting read, though it comes from a young American working for CNBC. A similar viewpoint from an European of a similar age/background would have been interesting, same with including a Brazilian or an Argentinian, someone from Australia, Japan, India, China, etc.


The audience included Apple CEO Tim Cook, European Central Bank President Christine Lagarde, World Bank President Ajay Banga, as well as senior political and business figures such as Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney.

He opened by saying it was good to see so many friends and “some enemies,” drawing laughter from the crowd. From there, he leaned heavily into self-assessment, describing himself as the most successful president and pointing to what he said were his major achievements accomplished in just one year.

“People are doing very well and are happy with me,” Trump said, prompting a mix of laughter and applause.

The tone oscillated between humor and provocation. Trump took aim at several figures, including a swipe at French President Emmanuel Macron’s sunglasses, asking: “What the hell was that?”

He also directed a number of comments at Carney. A CEO seated nearby told me, on condition of anonymity, that Carney took it in good humor, smiling and nodding along.

After more than an hour, Trump turned to the topic many in the room had been bracing for. “Would you like me to talk about Greenland?” he asked, drawing a loud “yeah!” from the audience. Around me, some attendees shook their heads. One person seated behind me, who said they were Danish, muttered: “This is ridiculous.”

Trump also kept referring to Greenland as a “piece of ice” and appeared to confuse it with Iceland — another European country altogether.

The president also criticized Europe more broadly, saying parts of the continent had become “unrecognizable,” and described former Swiss President Karin Keller-Sutter as “difficult.”

“She kept saying the same thing over and over. She rubbed me the wrong way,” he said.

The address was followed by a fireside chat with WEF President Børge Brende, but by then — after well over an hour — some of the audience had begun to drift out.

As I left, I asked a few attendees what they thought. One tech CEO summed it up succinctly: he wasn’t sure whether to laugh or feel nervous, a sentiment echoed by several others.

“Yes, we laughed,” one politician told me. “But it’s also frightening to think he might actually try to execute some of this.”
 
I watched his whole speech plus the Q&A afterwards. He hit all his favourite talking points. It was a shambolic, dis-jointed, rambling, at times whiney, stream of consciousness embarrassment. Half the time he sounds like an insecure needy little 15 year old and at other times like an 80 year old rube. At the end of it you realize that while its hard to take him seriously he has the actual power to do what he wants. We are dealing with a modern day Commodus/Nero/Caligula
 
And the hits keep coming.

Trump says he reached Greenland deal ‘framework’ with NATO, backs off Europe tariffs​



  • President Donald Trump said he and NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte have “formed the framework of a future deal with respect to Greenland.”
  • Trump said that as a result of that negotiation, he would no longer impose punitive tariffs on a slew of European countries that were set to begin Feb. 1.
Now this part from his Truth Social posting is interesting:

"Based upon a very productive meeting that I have had with the Secretary General of NATO, Mark Rutte, we have formed the framework of a future deal with respect to Greenland and, in fact, the entire Arctic Region."

What does that mean to us here in Canada?
Additional discussions are being held concerning The Golden Dome as it pertains to Greenland. Further information will be made available as discussions progress.

I may fall off my chair and laugh myself to death if America achieves it's Greenland aims after the last 53 pages of vitriolic opposition to something that has been on the "to-do" list since 1867.
 
I may fall off my chair and laugh myself to death if America achieves it's Greenland aims after the last 53 pages of vitriolic opposition to something that has been on the "to-do" list since 1867.
They will never 'own' Greenland unless they go to war.
So, do they get more than their 1951 Treaty. That is the question.
 
I may fall off my chair and laugh myself to death if America achieves it's Greenland aims after the last 53 pages of vitriolic opposition to something that has been on the "to-do" list since 1867.

What exactly has he achieved that was different from before? They gave him an off-ramp and he seems to have taken it.
 
What exactly has he achieved that was different from before? They gave him an off-ramp and he seems to have taken it.
This. They’ll reach a ‘framework agreement’ to do all the things existing treaty arrangements would let him do anyway and he’ll paint it as some victory.

Denmark made it clear Greenland’s not for sale. Europe stared him down and said they would cancel the summer’s trade deal that he was going to renegotiate on, and impose 93 billion in tariffs.

So he’s taking the off-ramp, albeit far too late to save much credibility.
 
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