A Deeply Fractured US

[Fishbone Jones]

Whether the decision is correct or not, on Garland not being charged, a large portion of the population will just add it to the two tiered justice system file. Good on congress for trying, but they should have known that when it comes to Biden, it wasn't going to fly. However, I hope they keep trying.

Trying to prove biden took bribes is unspectacular. There are probably hundreds of politicians, municipal all the way to POTUS, that are conducting shady business in furtherance of their own greed. The part that sticks in my craw, is the ties to the West's most powerful and blatant enemy, China. I draw the line at consorting with the enemy.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

MSN

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-wins-endorsements-three-seniors-groups-2024-06-12/

I'm not sure how this will go down, but seniors typically vote Republican, according to some outlets.

Will it work? I don't know.

Typically, democrats wait until seniors are dead before getting their vote.

 

[The Bread Guy]

What I find funny about the Biden kerfuffle is how much the left is losing their minds about it. They lie and manufacture shit about Trump and the right, 24/7 and this one comical case for Biden sets their hair on fire.

And "the right" has been collectively calm, cool, collected & reasonable about Trump's conviction, comparing him to Jesus Christ all over the socials here and here?

The worst of both far ends of the spectrum seem to be as bad as each other most days

 

[brihard]

To be clear, those two points in time being Jan 6th, then the subpoena date?

No; 2017 when Bannon was part of the administration and may have fallen under an umbrella of executive privilege, and the period in late 2020/early 2021 leading up to January 6th when he was committing acts that drew the committee’s attention.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Whether the decision is correct or not, on Garland not being charged, a large portion of the population will just add it to the two tiered justice system file. Good on congress for trying, but they should have known that when it comes to Biden, it wasn't going to fly. However, I hope they keep trying.

It's not really two-tier. Obama's AG Eric Holder was held in contempt by a Republican-controlled House, and Trump's AG Bill Barr was held in contempt by a Democrat-controlled House. In the latter case, it was because members wanted an "original document" (the unredacted Mueller report), which is essentially the same as the current case (audio interview recordings).

 

[Brad Sallows]

I'm not sure how this will go down, but seniors typically vote Republican, according to some outlets.

Endorsements aren't always worth much. Union members, for example, haven't been following union endorsements for Democrats as much as they once did. One of the central political ideas which is destabilizing political alignments is "I'm not doing what my betters demand/suggest/plead any more".

 

[KevinB]

On the economic front, it was noted that food for an average family of 4 has gone up approx 11k from the previous year.

I’d like to point out that neither my wife’s nor my salary went up 11k in that same span. So if you aren’t a double income dual 6 plus figure income you are probably feeling significant pain.

I’ve noticed bread is up around 450% if not more, the average loaf price at Wegmans here was .99 now at 4.99 within 2 years.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Here I would say food has gone up about $1100-2000 for a family of four.

 

[TacticalTea]

And "the right" has been collectively calm, cool, collected & reasonable about Trump's conviction, comparing him to Jesus Christ all over the socials here and here?

The worst of both far ends of the spectrum seem to be as bad as each other most days

It's objectively true that both Jesus and Trump suffered political prosecution.

That doesn't mean Trump is a saint or Christlike, but the idea that one cannot compare things that are dissimilar is not grounded in rationality.

 

[TacticalTea]

No; 2017 when Bannon was part of the administration and may have fallen under an umbrella of executive privilege, and the period in late 2020/early 2021 leading up to January 6th when he was committing acts that drew the committee’s attention.

Well see that doesn't make sense because you said "proximity to Donald Trump". In 2017, Bannon's claim to executive privilege was not founded on "proximity to Donald Trump", but rather, to his status as a USG executive (Chief WH Strategist).

Now, I get this is semantics and you may just be getting tangled in the minutiae of a days-long random internet discussion, but I'm just trying to make you see how you may not have said what you think you said.

 

[brihard]

Well see that doesn't make sense because you said "proximity to Donald Trump". In 2017, Bannon's claim to executive privilege was not founded on "proximity to Donald Trump", but rather, to his status as a USG executive (Chief WH Strategist).

Now, I get this is semantics and you may just be getting tangled in the minutiae of a days-long random internet discussion, but I'm just trying to make you see how you may not have said what you think you said.

Yes, chief White House strategist pretty much by default means the privilege flows from the office of the president; I wasn’t intending to be super precise on that, but fair enough. Either way he had nothing remotely close to a valid privilege claim over the testimony sought by the committee, and so it’s an invalid comparison to the decision not to prosecute Garland.

 

[Cloud Cover]

Bumped with the latest ....

Alex Jones’ assets to be liquidated to pay Sandy Hook lawsuits, judge rules - National | Globalnews.ca

The U.S. judge also tossed out a separate bankruptcy case for Jones' company that owns his Infowars platform, leaving the future of his business uncertain.

globalnews.ca

Judge orders liquidation of conspiracy theorist Alex Jones′s personal assets

Texas judge approves converting Jones’s proposed bankruptcy reorganization to a liquidation and has yet to rule on parent company to Infowars

www.theguardian.com

Judge orders liquidation of Alex Jones' personal assets

A trustee has been appointed to take control of liquidating the personal assets of conspiracy theorist Alex Jones.

au.news.yahoo.com

My God he is such a despicable man…

 

[brihard]

My God he is such a despicable man…

He’s absolute human garbage.

 

[dimsum]

It's objectively true that both Jesus and Trump suffered political prosecution.

That doesn't mean Trump is a saint or Christlike, but the idea that one cannot compare things that are dissimilar is not grounded in rationality.

If that was the one and only time that Trump’s name was brought up with religious tones, that’s one thing.

This article was from Apr 2023, talking about the various posts at that time comparing his arrest to the persecution of Jesus.

Trump arrest prompts Jesus comparisons: 'Spiritual warfare'

Former President Donald Trump's most dedicated supporters are comparing the criminal case against him to the persecution of Jesus Christ. Trump's supporters note his Tuesday arrest and arraignment came during Holy Week, when many Christians commemorate Christ's crucifixion and resurrection. The...

apnews.com

Besides, those posts and comments are purposely made to attempt to convince the audience that “like Jesus, Trump was politically persecuted”. The unspoken second part (and the logical flaw) is that because one thing is true, then the other thing is true. With a very obvious comparison between Jesus and Trump, they want people to think that because Jesus was Christ-like, then Trump must also be Christ-like. It’s a ridiculous take but most of that is for the MAGA faithful already, not the ones waffling about who to support.

 

[Brad Sallows]

With a very obvious comparison between Jesus and Trump, they want people to think that because Jesus was Christ-like, then Trump must also be Christ-like. It’s a ridiculous take but most of that is for the MAGA faithful already, not the ones waffling about who to support.

At least it's more spiritually uplifting than "Dark Brandon".

 

[TacticalTea]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1802388427968487844

C'mon now...

Every single day

And I'm no Biden hater, I thought he was good in the past and much better than most of his party in 2020. But this is ridiculous. He should've handed the reins a year ago, this is elder abuse.

 

[Rifleman62]

That's why the VPres attended the G7 etc. Biden too frail to travel.

 

[Quirky]

And I'm no Biden hater, I thought he was good in the past and much better than most of his party in 2020. But this is ridiculous. He should've handed the reins a year ago, this is elder abuse.

Biden looks completely lost and in another dimension. I wouldn't want him driving a vehicle let alone being the president. What an embarrassment.

 

[GR66]

That's why the VPres attended the G7 etc. Biden too frail to travel.

Umm....Biden WAS at the G7 summit (from the Wikipedia page on this year's G7 Summit)...you know the one with the fake news video of Biden supposedly "wandering off" during the parachute demo?

There's plenty of real stuff to be critical of Biden about without made up BS.

Core G7 Members
The host state and leader are shown in bold text.

Member	Represented by	Title
Canada	Justin Trudeau	Prime Minister
France	Emmanuel Macron	President
Germany	Olaf Scholz	Chancellor
Italy (Host)	Giorgia Meloni	Prime Minister
Japan	Fumio Kishida	Prime Minister
United Kingdom	Rishi Sunak	Prime Minister
United States	Joe Biden	President
European Union	Ursula von der Leyen	Commission President
Charles Michel	Council President

 

[Brad Sallows]

you know the one with the fake news video of Biden supposedly "wandering off" during the parachute demo?

I doubt his lack of focus is mitigated very much by showing that his wandering attention fixed on something else rather than empty space.