A Deeply Fractured US

[HavokFour]

Might that simply be the medical facility the victims were brought to after they called for help?

That is where they were shot, but were discovered 3 miles away stopped in their vehicle.

Edit: This is the X account of a local reporter btw.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2009437258802503794

 

[brihard]

That is where they were shot, but were discovered 3 miles away stopped in their vehicle.

Edit: This is the X account of a local reporter btw.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2009437258802503794

Gotcha, thanks for that.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

DHS’ first claims regarding this event:

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I personally put no stock in DHS narratives anymore unless independently corroborated. Their own claims are no longer inherently reliable.

No less so than the leftist local media and government propaganda that accompanies most incidents in sanctuary cities and states.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Might that simply be the medical facility the victims were brought to after they called for help?

Bri, from one of the articles.

"The shooting happened outside the Adventist Health clinic near Southeast Main Street at around 2:20 p.m. The two wounded people drove more than 2.5 miles to Northeast 146th Avenue and East Burnside, where they were found and taken to the hospital"

 

[NavyShooter]

 

[brihard]

Bri, from one of the articles.

"The shooting happened outside the Adventist Health clinic near Southeast Main Street at around 2:20 p.m. The two wounded people drove more than 2.5 miles to Northeast 146th Avenue and East Burnside, where they were found and taken to the hospital"

Thanks. Looks like a traffic stop attempt that took place at least partly in the facility parking lot. Maybe they were just leaving, maybe they pulled into the lot to stop; that’s not unusual when people want to get off a road.

I’ve seen a photo of a car with a smashed up front end, bumped missing. Might be there was an attempt to box them in and they fled.

I’m waiting for more info on this one. CBP aren’t the boneheads ICE hires for removal ops. They tend to have their poop in more of a group.

But the onus is completely on them to articulate what happened and why. That’s how it works when you pull the trigger as a cop.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Thanks. Looks like a traffic stop attempt that took place at least partly in the facility parking lot. Maybe they were just leaving, maybe they pulled into the lot to stop; that’s not unusual when people want to get off a road.

I’ve seen a photo of a car with a smashed up front end, bumped missing. Might be there was an attempt to box them in and they fled.

I’m waiting for more info on this one. CBP aren’t the boneheads ICE hires for removal ops. They tend to have their poop in more of a group.

But the onus is completely on them to articulate what happened and why. That’s how it works when you pull the trigger as a cop.

Yup, I'd like to hear also. However, after watching the two sides in Minnesota, I'm inclined to forget the whole thing and wait a year or two for the answer. I've tried to stay away from politics and their threads, since Christmas. It has been good for my constitution.

 

[Lumber]

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Great depiction of Trudeau derangement syndrome, but wrong thread.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I hesitate getting involved, but here is some footage from a different angle. I've watched it a few times. It certainly looks like she made contact with the officer. Not sure though.

Video: New angles shows moment ICE agent shoots Minneapolis woman dead | Daily Mail Online

New angle shows moment ICE agent shoots Minneapolis woman dead after she tries to 'ram them over.'

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Brad Sallows]

David Frum's opinion, once upon a time.
Whether he was correct to assume "fasicsts" rather than "someone else", he was correct about the cause-effect.

 

[brihard]

I hesitate getting involved, but here is some footage from a different angle. I've watched it a few times. It certainly looks like she made contact with the officer. Not sure though.

Video: New angles shows moment ICE agent shoots Minneapolis woman dead | Daily Mail Online

New angle shows moment ICE agent shoots Minneapolis woman dead after she tries to 'ram them over.'

www.dailymail.co.uk

I think there was a bit of contact too, but largely because he planted and drew rather than simply getting out of the way. She wasn’t trying to hit him. That’s not to excuse dangerous driving, however it’s not a sort of threat where your smart move is to shoot at it. Cars have inertia, and that’s even without a wounded driver flooring the gas- as happened here. Just get off the X.

 

[Booter]

She did contact him. There’s potential there for a variety of charges. None of them would still justify the shooting so largely it’s not that important. It’s important for the truth of the matter. It’s not for justifying the result

 

[Furniture]

I think there was a bit of contact too, but largely because he planted and drew rather than simply getting out of the way. She wasn’t trying to hit him. That’s not to excuse dangerous driving, however it’s not a sort of threat where your smart move is to shoot at it. Cars have inertia, and that’s even without a wounded driver flooring the gas- as happened here. Just get off the X.

Yeah, from both angles it appears that she panicked and tried to get away... Not the best move, but not entirely unreasonable.

It's a shitty situation for the woman and the officers that shot at her.

 

[PuckChaser]

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[HavokFour]

Thanks. Looks like a traffic stop attempt that took place at least partly in the facility parking lot. Maybe they were just leaving, maybe they pulled into the lot to stop; that’s not unusual when people want to get off a road.

I’ve seen a photo of a car with a smashed up front end, bumped missing. Might be there was an attempt to box them in and they fled.

I’m waiting for more info on this one. CBP aren’t the boneheads ICE hires for removal ops. They tend to have their poop in more of a group.

But the onus is completely on them to articulate what happened and why. That’s how it works when you pull the trigger as a cop.

Allegedly a member of the CBP, in Minneapolis.

https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1q7ytlc/cbp_points_gun_directly_at_protesters_head

 

[Kilted]

With the conflicts between State and Federal agencies, I'm wondering when we are going to start hearing the topic of State's rights come up.

 

[Lumber]

With the conflicts between State and Federal agencies, I'm wondering when we are going to start hearing the topic of State's rights come up.

This might be my “TDS” showing, but from where I’m sitting it looks like a full inversion. The old states’-rights absolutists have become enthusiastic federalists the moment centralized power serves Trump. Meanwhile, those who were historically more accepting of federal authority are increasingly rediscovering states’ rights, not out of ideology, but as a defensive response to what they see as executive overreach from a Trump-led federal government.

 

[FSTO]

Yeah, from both angles it appears that she panicked and tried to get away... Not the best move, but not entirely unreasonable.

It's a shitty situation for the woman and the officers that shot at her.

You’re giving that ICE meathead much more respect than I will. After he shot her he walks back from the crash scene, spins his hand in the air of “let’s GTFO of here”. Another clown who shouldn’t be mall cop let alone walking about a city all tactical up!

Also feds not cooperating or coordinating with locals is astounding (to me). Could you imagine the RCMP running around shooting people in Ottawa and not telling the locals what they’re doing? Or am I out to lunch?

 

[Halifax Tar]

With the conflicts between State and Federal agencies, I'm wondering when we are going to start hearing the topic of State's rights come up.

Will this be the ignition of the powder keg ? Some state or municipal PD gets into a shooting match with ICE or some other Fed organization ?

Pressure is building and its going to need to release at some point.

 

[Genetk44]

Will this be the ignition of the powder keg ? Some state or municipal PD gets into a shooting match with ICE or some other Fed organization ?

Pressure is building and its going to need to release at some point.

That is exactly what Trump and his minions want... it is why they keep building the pressure up