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AFG Taliban's Mullah Omar Nabbed?

Teeps74 said:
But, IO maintains it's capability through credibility. Just the facts.

Technically PAO is the only one that demands credibility, and even that is a self-imposed restriction.

The insurgents can lie about whatever they want and they seem to be willing the IO battle quite easily making timing and elaborate claims their main effort instead of truth.

We could tell an Aghan village that we had the technology to build a live volcano next to their village if they didn't cooperate, and they would likely believe it because it's not like they can Google it.

We don't exploit our capabilities anywhere near as much as we could.  Can you imagine how awesome it would be for Comd TFK to line up some Hellfire or artillery strikes in the distance at the exact moment he pointed in that direction in front of Afhgan elders?  They would all think he was a sorcerer or something like buds on Holy Grail.
 
Petamocto said:
Technically PAO is the only one that demands credibility, and even that is a self-imposed restriction.

I can only speak from the PSYOPS perspective.  Credibility is the cornerstone of us actually being able to be effective. Credibility speaks to our ability to influence. If we are not credible, we can not influence.
 
Mullah Omar has not been arrested: Taliban
Omar link
Islamabad, July 6 (IANS) Taliban leader Mullah Omar has not been arrested in Pakistan, a Taliban spokesperson has said.

Zabeeh Ullah told a TV channel that the news of Mullah Omar’s arrest was a US and NATO propaganda and claimed that the US was employing such tactics to save face.

He insisted that Mullah Omar was still in Afghanistan, The Nation reported Tuesday.

The US has offered $10 million on information leading to Mullah who had suffered a shrapnel wound on his right eye. Mullah Omar’s Taliban regime in Afghanistan sheltered Osama bin Laden and his Al Qaida network in the years prior to the Sep 11 terror attack.

The news of Mullah Omar’s arrest first appeared on a US blog.

US blogger Brad Thor made the startling claim May 13 on the website ‘biggovernment.com’. He claimed that Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence Agency nabbed him in Karachi March 27.


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Teeps74 said:
I can only speak from the PSYOPS perspective.  Credibility is the cornerstone of us actually being able to be effective. Credibility speaks to our ability to influence. If we are not credible, we can not influence.

You are right in Canada, but I feel you are wrong on your assessment in our current theatre due to how significantly we are losing the IO campaign.

Everything you are saying is the DS answer of credibility = influence.  That works for western countries where people are educated and can call a bluff or at minimum look it up on Google.

How can you say that credibility = effectiveness in Afghanistan when the insurgents lie about everything the say and are so successful at shaping local opinion?
 
Tango2Bravo said:
After clicking your latest links, I am led to believe that you get your info from Jawas?  :alien:
One place (out of many) to look, but always worth the "caveat lector"....  ;D
 
Has anyone else heard anything more on the Mullah Omar issue? 

So far I've only read the semi-questionable sources above, and have been unable to locate anything on the bigger news services like CNN or CBC.

The last story CBC has Mullah Omar mentioned is February when his 2IC was captured.

FWIW, nothing on his Wiki page, either.
 
Petamocto said:
Has anyone else heard anything more on the Mullah Omar issue? 

So far I've only read the semi-questionable sources above, and have been unable to locate anything on the bigger news services like CNN or CBC.

The last story CBC has Mullah Omar mentioned is February when his 2IC was captured.

FWIW, nothing on his Wiki page, either.

Googled it. Nothing since early May 2010.
 
This might be of interest, although the list could have been made at any earlier date. Or just BS.
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NATO says Mullah Omar ordered killing of Afghan tribal chief Omar

Posted In Afghanistan News Update  Tags: Thu, 15 Jul 2010
Kabul – An Afghan tribal chief executed by militants earlier this week was on a list of people the Taliban’s supreme chief Mullah Omar wanted killed, NATO said Thursday.

Mullah Saleh Mohammad, a member of tribal leaders’ council in Khas Uruzgan district of the southern province of Uruzgan, was killed when Taliban militants stopped his car at a make-shift checkpoint on Tuesday, the military said in a statement.

“Mullah Omar sent to his followers a list of Afghans he wants killed,” the NATO statement said, citing information provided by US Special Forces in the area. “Mohammad was number three on that list. That’s why he was killed.”

Mohammad was initially kidnapped by the militants on Monday, but was released when local elders interfered, it said, adding that the following day as he was travelling in a vehicle, “The insurgents stopped the van, pulled Mohammad out, and shot him on the spot, according to those at the scene.”

Mullah Omar, who has a 10-million-dollar bounty on his head, is believed to hiding in Balochistan province of Pakistan according to US and Afghan officials after his government was toppled by the US-led forces in late 2001. Pakistan has steadfastly denied this claim.

Taliban militants have killed numerous Afghans, including government civilian workers, tribal elders and religious scholars for allegedly spying for the Western-backed Afghan government.

The militants killed a former agent with the country’s intelligence service and his brother in the central province of Logar on Wednesday night, the Interior Ministry said in a statement.

Three more members of the man’s family, including a child, a woman and an elderly man, were injured when the militants attacked their home in the Porak area of the province, it said.
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Also:
Mullah Omar’s detention denied
Pakistan Observer
July 7, 2010 — Pakistan’s intelligence agencies and police have denied reports regarding detention of Afghan Taliban’s Supreme Commander Mullah Omar by Pak-Security agencies in Karachi. According to media reports American-Blogers claimed that Afghan-Taliban leader Mullah Omar was arrested by Pak-security agencies on March 27 this year, he was now in custody of Pak-secret agency ISI, however Pak-intelligence agencies denied all such media reports…

Read the full article / Pak-Int


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