Are we going to spending too much money on FELEX?

[FSTO]

NB we have no problem of maintaining communications with the outside world to answer your question.

I think using either of BHS or JSS for a flagship is not the right way to go, especially if the mission does not require an amphib or an auxillary. For warfare duties you want command and control to be on the platform that does warfighting not an high value unit that has to rely on escorts to provide for its defence. Talk about painting a more attractive bullseye for a ship.....gee lets take out one of their AORs/LPDs and fleet flagship....

I personally think reducing the numbers of CPFs for FELEX would harm our Navy. You would cause higher crew and equipment burnout if you reduce to 8 deployable CPFs.

If we could commit the government to go ahead with SCSC right now then we could have batch 1 in the water by the time the 8th frigate is FELEXed (OMFG - does anyone remember DELEX? Did that give us FRED or just enough upgrades to allow Rusty-guts and her sisters to limp along until the Frigates arrived?).

 

[NCS_Eng]

NB we have no problem of maintaining communications with the outside world to answer your question.

I think using either of BHS or JSS for a flagship is not the right way to go, especially if the mission does not require an amphib or an auxillary. For warfare duties you want command and control to be on the platform that does warfighting not an high value unit that has to rely on escorts to provide for its defence. Talk about painting a more attractive bullseye for a ship.....gee lets take out one of their AORs/LPDs and fleet flagship....

I personally think reducing the numbers of CPFs for FELEX would harm our Navy. You would cause higher crew and equipment burnout if you reduce to 8 deployable CPFs.

While I agree with you to a point, with JSS being designed from the ground up with Stellar C4ISR capabilities and the ability to hold a Joint (army/navy/airforce) command, it will be a simple matter to have the Commodore embark with his staff. Its the cheapest way, and therefore the way we are mostly likely going to go, at least until the SCSC comes along. The DDG's don't have many more years in them.

 

[IN HOC SIGNO]

While I agree with you to a point, with JSS being designed from the ground up with Stellar C4ISR capabilities and the ability to hold a Joint (army/navy/airforce) command, it will be a simple matter to have the Commodore embark with his staff. Its the cheapest way, and therefore the way we are mostly likely going to go, at least until the SCSC comes along. The DDG's don't have many more years in them.

Wow that's for sure. Huron already moth balled on West Coast and how much longer can ATH and IRO be expected to go?
The big question is wheter the Govt could be persuaded to speed up the procurement for ships in the same way they have sped up the process for aircraft?

 

[NavyShooter]

If we could commit the government to go ahead with SCSC right now then we could have batch 1 in the water by the time the 8th frigate is FELEXed (OMFG - does anyone remember DELEX? Did that give us FRED or just enough upgrades to allow Rusty-guts and her sisters to limp along until the Frigates arrived?).

FRED...what a wonderful piece of gear.  A dutch computer, which a Japanese company got the contract for the translation of the manual....translated from Dutch to Japanese, and Japanese to English.  Absolutely useless besides the CCT drawings.

My question re FELEX is how much of it is actually going to get done?  I mean really, how much of it is going to get chopped because we don't have the $$ to do it?

NS

 

[TAS278]

Well with all the current rumours flying around the air force now and the navy I can see a lot of cancelations/cutbacks in planned upgrades. In this case no news is not good news

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

I would wait til it happens before casting doubt on what will or won't happen.

 

[Sub_Guy]

Rumours are the worst thing possible.  Why can't we just have a balanced force!  It seems like we are always cutting one service to support another, then the next decade they switch to another service....

 

[TAS278]

I hear that. The infrastructure doesn't seem to handle everyone having a signifcant role at the same time. The navy should be used to not being used for decades at a time though.

 

[FredDaHead]

How about having 2 crews for each ship......

Sort of like american SSBNs have "gold" and "blue" crew.......We could call ours "Red" and "white" crews

That wouldn't solve equipment maintenance and such; besides, unless we cut the number of deployable ships in half, we wouldn't have the crew to do that. It might save some money (running more maintenance on less ships vs less maintenance on more ships) but I doubt it would be the right thing to do.

 

[NavyShooter]

Be a good excuse to get rid of half the ships in the Navy....or at least, from a bean-counter's perspective it would be.

Not to mention that we don't have enough crews to man the ships we have now, let alone getting two crews per ship...I can just see the Crit manning messages....

NS

 

[aesop081]

That wouldn't solve equipment maintenance and such; besides, unless we cut the number of deployable ships in half, we wouldn't have the crew to do that. It might save some money (running more maintenance on less ships vs less maintenance on more ships) but I doubt it would be the right thing to do.

I was responding to someone's concerns about PERS TEMPO if we went down to 8 FFHs or less.........