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ARMOURED PATROL VEHICLE

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Hi Folks..
I just read an article in the "News Link" feature that said the Army was going do a "hurry up" order of a new vehiclel for A'stan.

Here is the last para..

Three companies have been selected as potential bidders for the armoured vehicle program. Details on those firms and the vehicles they are offering were not available from military officials. The winning bidder will be determined by the end of the month. To get the vehicles to Afghanistan on time, the APVs will have to be shipped directly from the factory, Lt.-Col. Ohrt said. First hit - Premier mot clé 

Anybody in the know?

 
Interesting.

If we knew the names of the three companies, we would probably have a better idea of what the vehicles may be.  I am sure that US offers may be the vehicles they are bringing into service in Iraq to replace the Hummer.  French would probably be submitting the VBL.  English submission could be a version of the LandRover.  Perhaps a German submission in the form of Puma (Wheeled) or different variant of G Wagen.  The possibilities are endless.  Centauro, anyone?
 
Or perhaps they're talking of a new engineer asset a la MAMBA or NYALA? Let's not jump the gun here boys, let's get some more facts first.
 
Greetings..
Here is (most of) the article from the Wnnipeg Free Press..

The <Canadian> military is making an emergency purchase of new armoured patrol vehicles as it prepares for its new and risky mission to the Kandahar area in Afghanistan next year.

The vehicles, more robust and offering better armour protection than the current jeep-like G-Wagons, are expected to be in Afghanistan in either February or March, said Lt.-Col. Paul Ohrt, director of armoured vehicle project management.

Fifty vehicles will be bought and there could be an option to purchase another 25. The total cost for the package, which also includes spare parts and other support for a two-year period, is around $100 million.

The vehicles, designed with extra protection to withstand blasts from landmines and roadside bombs, would also be equipped with a roof-top weapon that can be fired by remote control by soldiers inside.

Sounds like a valid quote.
I vote for the Italian Puma family.

 
So, does this quote from Open Sources make for a more defined picture?
The vehicles, designed with extra protection to withstand blasts from landmines and roadside bombs, would also be equipped with a rooftop weapon that can be fired by remote control by soldiers inside.


Another interesting site may be: http://www.forceprotection.net/models/buffalo/

I imiagine the Buffalo family of vehicles would be interesting.   The Engineers may like the looks of her too.   Greatly overshadows the HUMV in size.   ;D
 
this would tie in with the CDSs statement last month about the purchase of some new Nyala from south africa...  so that would be 1
I know that they were looking at the mowag eagle at one time.... some time ago.... that could be 2
throw in a land rover or a hummer for good measure for 3 and the raffle is on ;)
 
I'm with Doog. I like the Italian Puma. 

Of course it could be any of the armoured trucks out there but would they qualify as patrol vehicles or more like tranports?  Armoured patrol vehicles don't need to carry more than 4 bodies do they?

Maybe the armoured corps is going to get lucky and your going to get some Fenneks. :D
 
With the statements to the Press, I'd probably rule out the LandRover, HUMV, and it's knock off the Eagle, as they are not as mine resistant as the Nyala and other South African products.  However, I don't think we will see purchases from South Africa, Israel or several other countries.  It is likely to be 'homegrown', US or European.  The Puma may be a contender, but I strongly suspect a couple of US vehicles now showing up in Iraq will be the strongest contenders. 

The USMC Cougar http://www.afvnews.ca/cgi-bin/web-bbs/webbbs_config.pl/noframes/read/60003

or perhaps this dated article about Alvis (UK) and Casspir Family of Vehicles (SA): http://www.defense-aerospace.com/cgi-bin/client/modele.pl?prod=43626&session=dae.15949111.1128654184.Q0XlaMOa9dUAABiFggk&modele=jdc_1
Armscor Awards Alvis OMC Contract to Upgrade Vehicles
 
 
(Source: Alvis plc; dated July 28, released Aug. 4, 2004)
 
 
Alvis OMC has been awarded an upgrade and refurbishment contract by the Armament Corporation of South Africa (Armscor) valued at R164 million (equivalent to 21m euros or £14m) for the upgrade of Casspir MKII Mine Protected Vehicles for the South African National Defence Force (SANDF). 

The upgrade and refurbishment of the Casspir MKII to MKIII status will include structural modifications for increased mobility with more robust axles. 

This is part of Alvis OMC's commitment to ongoing support of customers' vehicles and is aimed at extending the life as well as increasing the reliability of vehicles in service. 

"Alvis OMC is proud to undertake this important upgrade and refurbishment program, confirming its position as South Africa's premier provider and maintainer of armoured and mine protected vehicles to the SANDF", said Thami Mbele, Director Customer Logistic Support. 

"The Casspir Vehicles have demonstrated unparalleled performance and reliability. This structured upgrade is an opportunity for us to attend to each vehicle individually and to make the necessary modifications for extended life and reliability," he said 

Under the terms of the contract, Alvis OMC will refurbish the vehicles while Alvis Gear Ratio will supply axles manufactured under licence from an OEM. 

The upgrade and refurbishment has already commenced and will be completed by February 2006 for SANDF Casspir MKII vehicles. 

The Casspir Mine Protected Vehicle is the international benchmark for mine protection and offers high mobility, easy handling and crew comfort. The use of tried and tested drive line units ensures ease of maintenance, high availability and cost-effective operational deployment. 

The vehicle design not only protects the crew against triple anti-tank landmines under any wheel, or double anti-tank landmines under the hull, but also facilitates rapid field repair after a landmine detonation. 
 
BACKGROUND NOTES: 

Alvis OMC is South Africa's primary military vehicle facility and covers all disciplines of the military vehicle spectrum including conceptualisation, design, development, manufacture, production, and in-service support. The company specialises in a wide range of wheeled armoured vehicles and mine-protected vehicles and supplies South Africa and other African and overseas defence markets. The company's offices and plant are situated in Benoni, Gauteng. 

Alvis OMC currently supports over 95% of the SA Army's armoured vehicle capability, including: Olifant MBT, Rooikat AFV, Ratel ICV, and Casspir, Mamba, Okapi and Mfezi MPVs. The company maintains facilities and capabilities for the maintenance, repair, upgrade and logistic support of all of these vehicles, which includes the provision of support teams when required at bases where such vehicles are deployed. 

Alvis OMC is a division of Alvis South Africa, which is a subsidiary of Alvis plc (United Kingdom). Alvis plc holds a 75% share of Alvis South Africa, the remaining 25% being held by DGD Technologies (2001) (Pty) Ltd, a South African company. Alvis South Africa has two divisions, Alvis OMC and Alvis Gear Ratio. The latter is a specialist manufacturer of transmission systems and components to local and overseas OEMs. It is situated in Alrode, Alberton. 

Other businesses in the Alvis Group include Alvis Vickers and Alvis Bridging in the UK and Alvis Hägglunds in Sweden. 

Alvis plc is listed on the London Stock Exchange and is one of the leading companies in the world in the design development and production of armoured fighting vehicles and military land systems. The Alvis Group employs 2500 personnel and its turnover in 2003 was £349 million.
 
DOOG said:
The <Canadian> military is making an emergency purchase of new armoured patrol vehicles as it prepares for its new and risky mission to the Kandahar area in Afghanistan next year.

::)  Ummm....we're already there.

Everyone thinks the PRT is the one doing the dirty deeds....they're not even looking for trouble. Rebuilding schools and infrastructure is the goal for them.

Wait until TFK gets there.....

As for the new vehicles....speculation is the name of the game right now, even here. Nyalas and Mabas are the rumoured vehicles.

I can see it being the Dutch Patria vehicles though. Good solid vehicle. 25 tons...and are being used by the Dutch here.

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Perhapse the Fennek....they are in theater right now as well.
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Regards

 
Stop all the horseshit and all the crap, eveyone. You don't know what the Gov't is talking about, or where they're going with this. If you can post positive about this subject, PM me, otherwise, stay quiet.
 
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