Army Communication & Information Systems Specialists (Sig Op, Lineman and LCIS Amalgamation)

[NavyShooter]

Occam....

I concur with your assessment.  I got in after MORPS, so I missed that schmozzle.  This looks like it may end up being similar...

NS

 

[Brasidas]

Your comment about some reservists not knowing TCCCS is just anecdotal and only reflects a couple of people who probably used the "My unit only does HF" as a poor excuse for their lack of trades skills. I hear the same thing every summer I teach in Kingston. Fact is, every Res unit has VHF TCCCS capabilities.

Not true, Dan.

Every reserve sig op is trained on TCCCS, sure. But up until this year, my unit literally had no VHF assets beyond three manpacks.

It was a pure HF unit, with no VHF training at the unit level. There were rare opportunities to apply Kingston-learned VHF skills on taskings if they sought them out, but that's hasn't been something the unit could plan training around.  Dedicated, deployable VHF assets have finally become available in just the last couple months.

Personnel are now assigned to a det and don't cross-train on equipment (VHF vs HF) other than on a "hey, that det's only got one guy this week, you give him a hand".

VHF skills can bleed in that scenario, though more along the lines of weak troubleshooting skills rather than not even being able to program the freqs above channel 1.

 

[Swingline1984]

Happy new trade everyone!    :'(

 

[Swingline1984]

Happy new trade everyone!    :'(

Eastern time anyways.  ;D

 

[REDinstaller]

And RIP to the LCIS, Line and Sig Op trades.

 

[PuckChaser]

And RIP to the LCIS, Line and Sig Op trades.

Hear hear!

Maybe if we just don't use the new trade names in common speech, we can wish the transfer away. I'll always be a 215!!

 

[REDinstaller]

Well I will tell you how it goes at the First ever CM brief in the new order :-X. They will be here in Edmonton 11-14 Jan 11. It should be interesting.

 

[PuckChaser]

Mine was 14 December.... they had no information and would entertain no questions on MES. Postings/Promotions as usual. Seems like the good idea factory for MES is even keeping the CMs in the dark.

 

[REDinstaller]

Well of course they would. But when it fails, it will be our faults for not putting enough behind it. You think the CM's would have more input as to the implementation.

 

[BenFG]

Allthough my last topic was closed I did get usefull information, so here I am again. I will try my best to avoid sounding self righteous but please dont comment saying to use the search function. If I have overlooked a post that answers my question i apologize, please link it below. This is a discussion board not a library right?

I know there have been lots of topics lately about this position.(probably do to with it being "in-demand" on the forces website) And I am aware that now under this new name (ACISS) there are 3 branches.
The only branch that interest me would be the "Operator" one. ( what used to be signal operator I guess )
Are you a "boot on the ground" in this job? ie: the guy with the radio on his/her back?
I know that they get soldier training after BMQ, but if I apply for ACISS could i get stuck behind a desk?

thanks in advance

 

[PuckChaser]

ACISS core occupation is the new SigOp minus computer stuff. Yes, you can be that guy with the radio, but you can also be working in a Coy/Sqn Command Post. If you want ACISS core, I don't forsee you being put into any other occupation, as its going to be the hardest one to fill up. Everyone wants to be a computer guy or technician, so there will be lots of spots open at HQ+Sigs for field-oriented soldiers.

 

[George Wallace]

Topic LOCKED

Please go to the existing topic on ACISS so as not to be asking the same questions over and over again.

 

[Danke]

Before anyone suggests it, I have used the search and scoured the forums for posts. Unfortunately, most of what I found is full of acronyms and initialisms I am not familiar with so I'm hoping to get some simplified information.

I spoke with a recruiter yesterday about joining, and he mentioned that LCIS and SigOp had openings. Both interest me, with some preference for SigOp. He didn't, however, mention anything about the amalgamation of the two with Linesmen. So, for anyone that knows more than me: will choosing LCIS or SigOp have any effect on my career at this point, or will I be placed in the same pool of recruits?

Background info: HS diploma; Grade 11/12 Physics, Chemistry, Math; HS Computer Science; College Physics / Chem / Bio / Math; HS and College English.

 

[PuckChaser]

SigOp and LCIS are recruiting because we're so undermanned. The amalgamation is supposed to help that manning level. If you want to be a SigOp, you'll join ACISS and tell your supervisor after your DP1 that you want to stay ACISS Core. Voila, you're a SigOp with just a different name.

 

[REDinstaller]

As of right now it desn't appear that anyone outside of the trades affected has a clue about our plight. I'm sure that if you apply for either, that in the end when you get to CFSCE, the route you take will depend on what QL3 course is running. Right now the ACCIS QL3 is spooled up. But you have quite a while to reach that.

 

[Danke]

SigOp and LCIS are recruiting because we're so undermanned. The amalgamation is supposed to help that manning level. If you want to be a SigOp, you'll join ACISS and tell your supervisor after your DP1 that you want to stay ACISS Core. Voila, you're a SigOp with just a different name.

Thanks very much.

Are there courses to learn more of the tech stuff if I specialize in SigOp? I like the idea of "being able to take apart, fix, and put back together everything" (in the words of the recruiter), but I would prefer deployment to Computer Administrator duties.

Also, how often can I complete supplementary courses? I am hoping to learn a few languages as well; would I be using private language courses or are there CF-specific language courses?

 

[Danke]

As of right now it desn't appear that anyone outside of the trades affected has a clue about our plight. I'm sure that if you apply for either, that in the end when you get to CFSCE, the route you take will depend on what QL3 course is running. Right now the ACCIS QL3 is spooled up. But you have quite a while to reach that.

Thanks, it's reassuring knowing I won't be too constrained by my choice.

EDIT: (Sorry for the double-post, he replied while I was replying to the other post)

 

[PuckChaser]

Thanks very much.

Are there courses to learn more of the tech stuff if I specialize in SigOp? I like the idea of "being able to take apart, fix, and put back together everything" (in the words of the recruiter), but I would prefer deployment to Computer Administrator duties.

Also, how often can I complete supplementary courses? I am hoping to learn a few languages as well; would I be using private language courses or are there CF-specific language courses?

If you want to be a computer admin, you want to be an IST which is a subtrade of ACISS. You'll get some tech training on your DP1, us old SigOps learned to do it through experience. French courses are offered, you'd be hard pressed to learn anything else through DND unless you're getting an embassy posting where you'll need it (few and far between).

 

[Rheostatic]

How long until the Sig Op QL6 transitions? Anyone have any insight on the pros and cons of doing QL6A now or later?

 

[PuckChaser]

New DP3A is shorter, but is supposed to be tougher. I'd take the one now. A month of sitting through lectures that the guest speaker doesn't even know what they're talking about, and a handful of assignments that are done in a group. Only difficult part for the SigOp 6A was the recce and siting portion, but I had someone get lost on their PC and still get 100%.

I don't know if they're even running anymore old QL6A courses, everything was supposed to be ACISS as of 1 Jan.