artsy's Wonderful World of History [split fromTroops in Afghanistan.]

[aesop081]

OKAY that was the funniest thread I have read to date!  I bet I woke up Hot Lips cause there was NO WAY I could read and not laugh my a** off.  That was too much (or not enough I can't decide).

Actually the first thing to that came to my mind when Artsy wrote "but you have to listen to me..." was...

HEY THIS ISN'T AMWAY IS IT?

:rofl:

amway, amway, amway is the only way........ ;D

 

[Kat Stevens]

You guys i'm sure are doing a wonderful job.......there is really no offense intended....but you have to understand something that is very crucial right now....
i don't doubt your hearts or your intentions.......but the truth is that you are there as an extension of the bush regime...
you are there for pipelines and for oil...nothing more
it's not the first time that innocent soldiers have been used to make a statement or to gain power.....
truman was fully aware of pearl harbour before it happened......but he used it in order to be able to use the bomb.....
what has america been doing since that time......threatening the bomb....
you strive and die for the corporations that rule the bush regime....
nothing more.
you fuel the corporations ......you fuel the people that have interests and investments in armament companies.....
i can show you proof ......rational proof......but you have to be willing to listen.....

Wow...just...wow.  You either smoked some bad granola, or those mushrooms on your pizza aren't exactly kosher.

 

[Britney Spears]

 

[Fishbone Jones]

nonsense! The Daleks are the most fearsome force to ever be visited on the galaxy!

Nope. Chuck Norris is. ;D

 

[Centurian1985]

Hey Britney, nice post!

(edit - oh, am I allowed to say that? I assure you I was speaking about the imagery not your personal attributes...  ;D  )

 

[GAP]

Can I have a monoplane???  please?

 

[Centurian1985]

I can show you proof ......rational proof......but you have to be willing to listen.....

You MUST listen

You WILL listen!

ALL WILL LISTEN!

 

[GAP]

forget the monoplane....I want one of the middle ones...please  sigh

 

[paracowboy]

Nope. Chuck Norris is. ;D

Word. True dat, true dat.

 

[17thRecceSgt]

The real scarey thought?  How many people out there in the world actually and whole-heartedly believe the opinion and thoughts of Artsy??  Thats scarey..once they are 18 they vote.  

If they only knew how lucky they were to have their innocent minds protected to think such dreamy thoughts...if too many people thought that way in the beginning of WWI and WWII...my last name might be Vanhuganbager or something else I couldn't spell!

I guess its sort of like being the sheep dog.   You have to watch your herd, as naive as they may be to danger, because you know danger is/was/will be just over the hill and you would rather be ready for it than loose one of your sheep.

I personally think...if Artsy was to sit back and think about the rights of women and children over there that are improving little by little...kids CAN go to school..women are allowed to...talk...stuff like that...she would realize its about people and not Bush/oil/etc.

;D  Google is a great thing Artsy...search and look for human rights under Taliban rules...here is just one link...interesting read.  Its 69 pages but make sure you read just pages 3-6.  Makes it clear to me what types of things the CF is in A-stan for.  

http://www.survivorsrightsinternational.org/sri_news/SEVEREPE.pdf

 

[TMM]

I personally think...if Artsy was to sit back and think about the rights of women and children over there that are improving little by little...kids CAN go to school..women are allowed to...talk...stuff like that...she would realize its about people and not Bush/oil/etc.

+1.

I've met a few Afghani women and long before we went to A-stan 7 years ago they were pleading for help there.

Funny thing is...I am an artsy...

 

[artsy]

"If the innocent honest Man must quietly quit all he has for Peace
sake, to him who will lay violent hands upon it, I desire it may be
considered what kind of Peace there will be in the World, which consists only
in Violence and Rapine; and which is to be maintained only for the
benefit of Robbers and Oppressors.":  - -- John Locke - (1632-1704) English
philosopher and political theorist. Considered the ideological
progenitor of the American Revolution. Source: Second Treatise of Civil
Government [1690], #228 (Lasslet Edition, Cambridge University Press, 1960),
p. 465

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Charge Him or Release Him

Tell us about freedom and democracy Mr. Bush

Jose Padilla : U.S. Citizen Imprisoned Without Trial or Charges for 3
Years and 27 Days

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Before The U.S. Attacked Iraq

Facts EVERY war supporter should have known

Who "mass-graved" thousands of Iraqis by bulldozing over them?

Where did the figure of "300,000" originate as the number of Iraqis
"killed by Hussein"?

What nation had the highest number of citizens with PhDs on the world?
And had more PhDs than America?

What nation won Humanitarian Awards for its literacy programs?

Answers Here
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9045.htm

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U.S. Effort to “Spread Democracy” Leaves A Trail of Conflict and
Suffering

One-Tenth of Arabs live directly under foreign occupation. — Statement
by Rima Khalaf, assistant secretary-general of the United Nations
Development Program, New York Times, April 6, 2005.

By Rachelle Marshall

Given George Bush’s practice of saying one thing while doing another
(hailing the “advancing rights of mankind” at the United Nations while
his Justice Department was jailing immigrants without due process), it is
not surprising that his campaign to bring democracy to the Middle East
so far has only meant replacing unfriendly regimes with more obliging
ones. The people of Afghanistan and Iraq are still waiting for real
freedom.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9044.htm

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US military confirms Guantanamo Koran abuse:

A newly completed military inquiry has found US personnel splashed a
Koran with urine, kicked it, stepped on it and soaked it with water.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9043.htm

http://snipurl.com/fd17

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US Military Gives Details of Mishandling of Koran at Guantanamo:

Official text of report describing Koran incidents (PDF)
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9046.htm

http://snipurl.com/fd19

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Pentagon spin doctors control media coverage of Quran Desecration: 

Releasing the report when most beat reporters have left for the weekend
was a calculated move by White House and Pentagon spin doctors to
control media coverage of the explosive report.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9051.htm

http://snipurl.com/fd1a

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Guantanamo Bay:

A "Gulag Of Our Times" or a "Model Facility"? A Debate on the U.S.
Prison & Amnesty International.

Real Audio & Transcript
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9055.htm

http://snipurl.com/fd1b

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Rights Group Defends Chastising of U.S.:

An official of Amnesty International said Friday that the term gulag in
its annual report to describe the United States prison camp at
Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, was chosen deliberately, and she shrugged off harsh
criticism of the report by the Bush administration.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9056.htm

http://snipurl.com/fd1d

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None Of Us Are Free - If One Of Us Is Chained:

Flash presentation.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8199.htm

http://snipurl.com/fd1e

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Suicide bomber kills five Iraqi soldiers:

A suicide bomber blew up his vehicle at the entrance to a U.S. base in
Saddam Hussein's hometown of Tikrit, killing five Iraq soldiers and
wounding seven, a police source said on Saturday.
http://snipurl.com/fd1g

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Three Police Killed:

A suicide car bomber blew himself up near a police station in the
southern part of the city, killing three police officers and wounding
another five, Capt. Ahmed Khalil of the police operations room said. Two
officers were seriously injured, hospital officials said.
http://snipurl.com/fd1h

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1 Iraqi killed, 2 policemen injured by gunmen in Iraq :

Gunmen shot dead an Iraqi car driver and trapped his car with
explosives which detonated to wound two policemen on Saturday, witnesses said.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-06/04/content_3044989.htm

http://snipurl.com/fd1i

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Officials say al-Zarqawi did not make Syria trip:

U.S. intelligence has no evidence that terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
visited Syria in recent months to plan bombings in Iraq, and experts
don't believe the widely publicized meeting ever happened, according to
U.S. officials.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9050.htm

http://snipurl.com/fd1j

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US admits it has no leads in hunt for 'wounded' Zarqawi:

A senior US military official played down any suggestion yesterday that
the net was tightening on America's most-wanted man after Osama bin
Laden.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=643944

http://snipurl.com/fd1k

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War Pimp Alert:

Intelligence gathers growing evidence of terrorists hiding in Iran :

U.S. intelligence and foreign allies have growing evidence that wanted
terrorists have been residing in Iran despite repeated American
warnings to Tehran not to harbor them.
http://www.djournal.com/pages/story.asp?ID=194652&pub=1&div=News

http://snipurl.com/fd1l

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U.S. disbands Iraqi army unit :

An Iraqi army unit has been disbanded after it refused to attend a U.S.
training course in Baghdad, former members of the unit said on
Saturday.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3094763,00.html

http://snipurl.com/fd1m

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Rumsfeld blames Aljazeera over Iraq:

US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has alleged that Aljazeera is
encouraging armed Islamist groups by broadcasting beheadings of foreign
hostages in Iraq.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/EA0C6319-1BAA-42ED-94D0-AEF9B7B91725.htm

http://snipurl.com/fd1n

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$1B spent on Baghdad embassy, $1.3B to go:

With a staff of about 1,000 Americans and 400 Iraqis, the mission is
one of the United States' largest. It is dramatically larger than what
came before it in Baghdad: When the United States pulled out of the
country after Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait in 1990, the embassy staff
numbered around 50 and had an annual operating budget of $3.5 million.
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20050602-040125-3089r.htm

http://snipurl.com/fd1o

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Two U.S. soldiers killed in Afghan blast:

Two U.S. soldiers were killed in a roadside bomb blast in southeast
Afghanistan, the U.S. military said on Saturday, the latest casualties in
a surge of violence in recent months.
http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/story.asp?section=Breaking&storyId=1043991&tw=wn_wire_story

http://snipurl.com/fd1p

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One killed, five arrested in hunt for militants behind Afghan mosque
blast:

Police shot dead one man who refused to stop his motorcycle at a
checkpoint Friday night, as security forces combed the southern city for the
suspected Al Qaeda perpetrators behind the country’s worst bomb attack
in two years.
http://snipurl.com/fd1q

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Forgotten Afghan war: Taliban remains vibrant:

Over the past six months, American and Afghan officials have predicted
a Taliban collapse. But the intensity of the fighting here in Zabul
Province, and parts of adjoining Kandahar and Uruzgan provinces - roughly
100 square miles, or 260 square kilometers, of mountain valleys -
reveals the Taliban to be still a vibrant fighting force supplied with
money, men and weapons.
http://www.iht.com/bin/print_ipub.php?file=/articles/2005/06/04/news/taliban.php

http://snipurl.com/fd1s

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US lowers standards in army crisis:

New recruits no longer dismissed for drug abuse, alcohol, poor fitness
or pregnancy.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1499164,00.html

http://snipurl.com/fd1t

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Marine to resign after threats over involvement in Iraqi killings :

Pantano is a former Wall Street trader who returned to the Marines
after the Nine-Eleven attacks. He was charged with murder after riddling
two Iraqis with bullets and hanging a warning sign on their corpses.
Pantano says he acted in self-defense. The military decided not to bring
him to trial.
http://snipurl.com/fd1u

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U.S.and Israeli Envoys fleeing Uzbekistan on threat of terror:

Signs of instability grew on Friday in Uzbekistan, as Israel swiftly
evacuated most of its diplomats amid fresh warnings of terrorist attacks,
and the U.S. Embassy authorized most of its employees and their
families to leave as well.
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/3210753

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Israeli Apartheid:

As US President George W Bush had his first White House meeting with
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas -- a summit giving Bush a platform
for his phony $200 million "aid" package -- devastating new realities are
being constructed in Palestine.
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2005/745/re5.htm

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Abbas postpones Palestinian elections:

In an official announcement, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has
postponed the date for legislative elections.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/4CF4C67A-C0EB-4616-A34C-340126894615.htm

http://snipurl.com/fd1w

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Video: Mosaic: World News Reports from Middle East TV For 06/03/05:

The nation's only uncensored compilation of daily television news
reports from more than 15 countries in the Middle East. QuickTime Video.
http://snipurl.com/fd1x

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Conyers reaches, extends signature goal; creates tip line:

The office of Representative John Conyers (D-MI) believes it has
surpassed its stated goal of 100,000 signatures requesting an investigation
into the Downing Street Memo, minutes of a British Prime Minister's
meeting on July 23, 2002.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9054.htm

http://snipurl.com/fd1y

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Bush, The Spoiled Man-Child :

What causes the fall of empires? Why, stubborn leaders who speak like
toddlers and never admit mistakes
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9052.htm

http://snipurl.com/fd1z

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A study in emasculation :

In the US media, a mission to explain has been replaced by a mission
to avoid
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1498950,00.html

http://snipurl.com/fd21

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CIA Gave $10 Million to Peru's Ex-Spymaster:

Vladimiro Montesinos, who now faces trial on murder, arms and drug
trafficking charges, used millions of CIA dollars to, among other things,
send guns to Colombia's FARC guerrillas.
http://www.eluniversal.com/2005/06/03/en_pol_art_03A566193.shtml

http://snipurl.com/fd23

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Venezuelan VP José Vicente Range: The CIA is plotting to kill Chávez:

Rangel added that both Colombian paramilitary troopers and hired
assassins and Cuban exiles in Miami are plotting to assassinate Chávez, while
"the Central Intelligence Agency is pulling the strings."
http://www.eluniversal.com/2005/06/03/en_pol_art_03A566193.shtml

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Venezuela to stage mass war games :

Hugo Chavez aims to have a two-million-strong reservist force
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4608913.stm

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[TCBF]

Hmmmnnnnn...  type a reply to artsy, or build a Dalek out of Lego?  Decisions, decisions...

Tom

 

[TMM]

Hmmmnnnnn...  type a reply to artsy, or build a Dalek out of Lego?  Decisions, decisions...

Tom

Build an artsy out of Lego?

 

[Michael OLeary]

OK artsy, you win, just a minute while I go get the guys from Afghanistan.  While we're chatting, would you like to buy a raffle ticket, we're trying to raise money to build a nuclear deterrence capability to protect our clean Canadian water from the evil American empire.  The prize is a ride on a nuclear bomb if we ever have to use them, but you'll have to bring your own tin-foil cowboy hat.

 

[17thRecceSgt]

Artsy...is ANY of those links related to Canada or Canadians??  Cause this is Army.ca

Army.usa is down the road three blocks...turn left at the border...

 

[Fishbone Jones]

artsy,

How about you and your buddies getting together and going to Darfur ahead of us. Lay the groundwork, get the warlords onside, get them to stop killing, then maybe we'll put on those worthless blue berets and........What? Sorry? Not your job? No real conviction on your part if YOU have to do it? C'mon, I'll even help with the ticket. 

Maybe you could drive the forklift to unload the aid supplies. I'm sure the bandits would recognise your skill and professionalism and leave you deliver to the camps. Right?

 

[George Wallace]

artsy

Could you explain to us why your favourite links here are to Information Clearing House, a one man operation that thrives on printing news that "you wouldn't see on CNN"?  Did you ever have any questions as to why this may be?  Could this person be a "Conspiracy Theorist" who may not have all his/her faculties?

 

[TCBF]

"Build an artsy out of Lego?"

- Got a photo?  Otherwise, it just turns out looking like a stickman with the mumps.

 

[17thRecceSgt]

I have some nice Magnum Stealth boots that are all broken in...and 120 lbs of kit to go along with them...

Artsy...did you look at the ONE link I sent to you?  it was ONE link and asked you to read 3 pages tops...