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Well, its all up to fate now to see if the Right Wing party stays in. Its anyone's game. Voting RW ensures a strong defence force and allied alliance. The lefties have other plans. They are hoping the Gen X will vote left, but the mainstay over 35's will be voting right.

In Australia it is LAW to vote, so if you don't, you cop a $$$ fine $$$.

An election is always on a Saturday too, so for the M-F working crowd, no time off to vote, its on your time, and the onus is on you.

Regards,

Wes

 
Just curious, but are the parties allowed to run on a campaign that promises to change the election law to be optional, or are there rules against that to protect that law?

midget
 
Wes,

I'm curious- what's your opinion on Pauline Hanson? I heard she wants to ban all immigration by Muslim immigrants. Just curious what you think. Thanks.

Cougar

 
uncle-midget-boyd said:
Just curious, but are the parties allowed to run on a campaign that promises to change the election law to be optional, or are there rules against that to protect that law?

midget

Voting is not complusory. Turning up to a voting centre is. If you choose not to vote for whatever reason you are perfectly within your rights not to put anything on the ballot paper, or even draw a large set of testicles.


I hope the coalition stays in. This is not the time to have Krud and his band of unionist cronies take over and run the nation into the ground like Whitlam, Keating & co have done in the past.


 
Wesley  Down Under said:
In Australia it is LAW to vote, so if you don't, you cop a $$$ fine $$$.

Really? well that could have some beneficial qualities if it were put to use out here, but then again we have alot of non existant voters as well. I personally live by the 'If you dont vote, you cant b*tch' motto.
 
I guess Pauline Hanson is too volatile a topic for this thread. And no, I didn't mean her trying to dance on a different edition of "Dancing With the Stars".  ::)

 
Hey CD, she had many valid points which were picked up by the current governmemt.

The left and bleeding heart snivel libertarians hate her.

Currently muslims from east Africa hev been suspended from immigration due to lack of assimilation, causing violence and creating a crime wave.

Pauline has some good ideas. Many mainstreamers favour a complete halt to the 'muslim invasion' of Australia. Parts of Sydney have changed forever, and have now become muslim ghettos/ slums, putrid with gun violence, drugs and ethnic gangs and crime. Often WASPS are targets of 'reverse racism', and the koran rules the roost. As far as many ar concerned, including myself, Sydney is ruined.

She also has some silly ideas too.

We'll see how she does at the polls today. I am just going out to vote now.


Cheers,

Wes

EDIT: No, I am not voting for her, ha! Thats would be a wasted vote, adn I want mine to count, as there is lots at stake if the government changed. I hope Howard is re-elected.
 
Alright, thanks for the insight. Sorry to hear that the situation has gotten that bad in parts of Sydney. Hope the elections there don't turn into a circus and Happy Holidays to you!

Cougar
 
No wories CD. Google Cronulla Riots, and have a read.

I have no desire to ever return to Sydney. If I was told I was posted there, I would discharge from the army. I hate it that much. Up here in Queensland, its still the Australia it was 30 yrs ago.

Everyone is friendly, says hello, and has been here for generations. There is no threat of another culture pushing its way in (yet). The beach, surf, and bush cultures are as they always were.

Personally, I don't mind where people come from and work hard, giving things a fair go (other extreme cultures should always be a minority to preserve our way of life, and to encourage assimilation), but when they TRY to enforce their way of life, support their terrorist organisations, and force their culture and laws on us, its time to send them packing back to whence they came. I think you know what I am referring to.

Immigration as far as I am concerned should be well ballanced. Here it appears that its a little one sided, just to appease the left, and to be PC.

I am (even a party is promoting this - Christian Democratic) in favour for at least a 10 yr moritorium on muslim immigration to Australia, and an increased intolerance of those who preach hatred. They should be deported without a chance to appeal. Thats my opinion anyways.

Regards,

Wes
 
Howard concedes defeat in Australian elections


SYDNEY, Australia (CNN) -- Australia's conservative Prime Minister John Howard has conceded defeat in elections, clearing the way for center-left Labor Party leader Kevin Rudd to take power.


With nearly 12 years in office, Howard was Australia's second-longest serving prime minister.

Howard delivered his concession speech after it was clear the Labor Party would gain at least 16 seats in parliament giving it a majority in the house that elects the prime minister.

Howard told supporters that he leaves government with Australia "a nation that is stronger and prouder and more prosperous than it was 11 and a half years ago."

Australia's ABC television earlier reported that the Labor Party would hold at least 81 of the 150 seats in Parliament, a net gain of 23 and seven more than needed to form a new government.

In fact, Howard's own seat in a suburban Sydney constituency was in doubt as he trailed his opponent by just a few hundred votes with 73 percent of the ballots tallied.

His Labor opponent -- former television journalist Maxine McKew -- said the race was "on a knife's edge." Analysts said the votes sent in through the mail and which won't be immediately counted could decide the race.

Howard, 68, a staunch supporter of U.S. President George W. Bush's decision to go to war in Iraq, found himself trailing in his quest for a fifth term despite a strong economy that has produced more than a decade of growth and record low levels of unemployment.
 
A shame but I guess they didnt run a very good campaign either. I would hope that Rudd doesnt gut the ADF budget,but he's a socialist so its a fair bet there will be cuts.Signing Kyoto wont be good for their economy. The majority has spoken and now they get to live with their decision.
 
At least the new government looks solid on Afstan (major platform thrusts at link):
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSSYD31991820071124
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FOREIGN POLICY

- Withdraw few hundred combat troops from Iraq, look to transfer Australia's training of Iraqi security forces to another country, keep and possibly increase troop numbers in Afghanistan [emphasis added].

- New Homeland Security department..."

Mark
Ottawa
 
tomahawk6 said:
The majority has spoken and now they get to live with their decision.

Exactly.

Labor policy is to pull out of Iraq, and distance itself from the US.

Personally, I fear more mortgage rate hikes, and a disaster for the economy.

I am sure the country will learn the hard way, and this will be their only run ( this is only the 3rd win for them since the end of WW2. Gen X's votes have won them no doubt a disasterous 4 yr term.

Either way, I wish this Rudd bloke luck, but I don't have much confidence in him, and Labor in general from past performances.


Cheers,

Wes
 
From what I am reading Rudd will go down the global warming yellow brick road and other green domestic policies. He will withdraw the BG from Iraq and possibly add a Bn to Afghanistan - but I wont hold my breath. I agree with you Wes that Rudd may be a disaster for the economy and who knows how he will handle the immigration issue.
 
What goes around, comes around. When I was at staff college in 1970-1971 the Australian federal election returned a Labour Party government. Almost immediately it withdrew its forces from Vietnam without consulation and with indecent haste.
 
And if you thought your provincial politicians misbehaved and the overall state of the 'state' was bad....

Read on.

Crikey, only in New South Wales  ;D

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Reba Meagher quits NSW politics17:59 AEST Sat Sep 13 200814 hours 55 minutes agoVIEWS: 0| FLOCKS: 0| 0 comments so farFormer NSW health minister Reba Meagher has quit politics, forcing a fourth by-election on NSW voters and prompting the opposition to call for simultaneous polls.

Ms Meagher's announcement places the Labor government in an unenviable position and caps a turbulent first week for NSW premier Nathan Rees as he struggles to claw back credibility for his new but already damaged government.

A spokesman for Mr Rees said the premier learnt about Ms Meagher's decision through the media and he would not comment immediately.

"At this stage, this is a matter for Reba," the spokesman said.

"He won't be commenting at this stage."

Ms Meagher made her announcement in the form of an email sent to AAP on Saturday afternoon.

Her retirement from politics comes just over a week after former deputy premier John Watkins resigned, a move that lead to Mr Iemma's dumping when caucus refused to endorse his choice of a new frontbench.

Michael Costa was dumped as treasurer on the same day Mr Iemma lost his party's support.

Planning Minister Frank Sartor was dumped by caucus on Sunday.

And Matt Brown was sacked as police minister this week after revelations about a drunken post-budget party in his parliamentary office in June.

Mr Brown was sacked for lying to Mr Rees about dancing in his underpants in his office, where he was alleged to have straddled Wollongong MP Noreen Hay's chest and called out to her adult daughter: "Look at this, I'm tittie-f***ing your mother!"

Mr Rees also dumped Ms Noreen Hay as parliamentary secretary for health.

Earlier, Mr Rees said he was not aware other members were thinking about quitting their seats.

"No. If there are those rumblings, I haven't heard them," he said.

"The events of this week have demonstrated to me that things can, indeed, get worse ... I expect very tough by-elections in October."

The health portfolio was an undeniably challenging one for Ms Meagher, as the state's health system lurched from one crisis to another.

She said last weekend she would not seek a frontbench position in the new government after it became clear Mr Iemma had wanted to dump her from the health portfolio.

In her statement, Ms Meagher, the member for Cabramatta, said she was retiring as an MP but did not specify a date when she would inform the parliament.

"After 14 years as a parliamentarian, representing the electorate of Cabramatta, I have decided to retire, as of today," she said.

Ms Meagher's spokeswoman said the Cabramatta by-election was a matter for Mr Rees.

"She (Ms Meagher) was handing out how-to-vote cards at Cabramatta for the council elections this morning when she decided it was time for a change," the spokeswoman told AAP.

"In her words: `It's time to take a break'."

Ms Meagher had not decided on a future career path, she said.

"She is considering her options but will remain a committed and loyal member of the Labor Party."

A by-election is scheduled to be held in Mr Watkin's seat of Ryde on October 18 after he formally tendered his resignation on Friday.

But Mr Iemma has not yet formally resigned from parliament, the trigger needed to hold a by-election in his southwestern Sydney seat of Lakemba.

A fourth by-election will be held in the northern NSW seat of Port Macquarie after independent MP Rob Oakeshott vacated his seat to move to federal politics.

Mr Rees is already under pressure to hold the by-elections simultaneously to minimise the expense to taxpayers.

However, he has publicly acknowledged that Labor is likely to lose Ryde and would face a voter backlash in Lakemba.

NSW Greens leader Lee Rhiannon said Mr Rees should issue a directive to all his ministers to leave now if they are thinking of quitting.

"October 18 should be the day for the by-elections," she said.

"It's becoming a real trend with MPs - if they don't get what they want or don't have a ministry, then they want out.

"All at a great cost to the public."

Opposition Leader Barry O'Farrell said no one would shed any tears at the announcement that "the state's worst ever health minister," Reba Meagher, has quit politics.

"I would simply encourage others contemplating retirement to get on with it," he said.

"The people of New South Wales don't deserve to have a series of by-elections.

"Matt Brown, if he's not happy, then get out. If any of the other losers are getting out, leave now."

He said the Liberal state executive would decide whether to stand a candidate in Cabramatta, a seat Labor holds with a 29 per cent swing.

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A bunch of overpaid childish irresponsible LOSERS!

OWDU

     
 
Australia gets its 1st female PM
Updated June 24, 2010 08:47 AM 

CANBERRA (AP) – Australia has its first female prime minister after the ruling party dumped Kevin Rudd and installed his deputy as leader.

New leader Julia Gillard will lead the government to elections due within months.

Gillard stood unopposed at a vote of the Labor Party's 112 lawmakers at a meeting Thursday, hours after a revolt against Rudd.

Rudd didn't even stand for reappointment in Thursday's vote — a signal that he knew his support had collapsed.

Since she is leader of the majority party in Parliament, Gillard's swearing in as prime minister is a formality.

Gillard is unlikely to alter Australia's key foreign policy positions such as its troop commitment to Afghanistan.

Rudd won a landslide election victory less than three years ago but suffered a recent plunge in opinion polls.
 
Labor is Labor and she is the ultra left wing of it.

Overall the majority of Australians are sick and tired of the continued stuff-ups of this Labor government.

KRUDD got dumped because Labor knows with him they will lose the upcoming election. Stabbed in the back by his own, and he had it coming.

Will things change?

I can sum up by saying 'same old circus shideshow freaks, just a different Ringmaster'.

IMHO, both she and Labor will be done.

Time will tell.

CC
 
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