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Australian Heritage Weapons - Owen, Thompson (M1928 and M1928A1) and US M60 GPMG

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Okay about the .45 ACP Tommy gun, we used it extensively in the ME and in the J, in the island fighting against the Japs. Both the early M1928 and the M1928A1 were used, along with the wartime M1 version. Note the differenence in rear sights of the Thompsons pictured.

The Owen was in 9mm and were different Mks about. The one pictured here was FTR'd at lithgow in the early 1950's. The ejector was in the 30rd magazine and was not part of the gun.

The 7.62mm NATO M60 GPMG. Don't knock untuil you have used it. I have fired 1000's of 4B1T from this beast, and its a bloody good gun! First appearing in our system in the early 1960's it remained in service thru Viet Nam, and then was retired afew yrs back. The M60D is still ued in some of our helos.

These wpns pictured belong to my Unit are kept for historical purposes. Enjoy the pics.

Cheers,

Wes
 
thanks for the pics, you always have interesting stories and pictures to share thanks.
i will admit i have no clue what i am looking at but cool pictures
 
some nice pics wes
greatly appreceated
looking at the Thompson.... flash supressors on both - differs frm WW2 version where the flash hider was pretty much eleminated. An interesting weapon to fire... my former unit still has a working copy locked up in the vault - heavy.

Owens.... neat

M60 - never got a chance to fire - heard it was a bit of a beast to carry - but if you have a UH1 handy, guess that makes transport a lot more convenient.
 
The Aussie Owen SMG was a much more reliable weapon than the Sten Gun, the Owen had a very good reputation for reliability with Aussie troops, never had the problem with the mags like the Sten,  " Hey Wes," did your ever have a chance to fire the Owen and the Sten to compare both weapons, looking forward to your input
 
Yes I have, many mags from the Owen, and the F1. As for the STEN, being honest, when in Canada, I owned a STEN MkII, a Longbranch, a Cdn one, made in 1943 (4L1881 should anyone own it now - it was once mine:) All legally registered, sold it to a guy who de-activated it BEYOND a joke, so it is still out there I am sure, all welded up.

I also had the chance to fire Thompsons. I was about 18 or 19, and it was down in Montana with a coollector/dealer there.

Cheers,

Wes
 
Nice pics , thanks  :)

If you get a chance , could you take a pic " from the shooters eye view " looking down the sights of the Owen ?

I have never seen that view and am kinda curious what the sight picture is like with a top mounted mag .

Craig
 
The sights are down the right side, and the BREN (MK1m) on the left! Its Friday afternoon here and I am out of town at a conference and recce all next week (for AASAM 2005), but I will get the pic upon my return.

Cheers,

Wes
 
geo said:
looking at the Thompson.... flash supressors on both - differs frm WW2 version where the flash hider was pretty much eleminated.
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Thats not a flash supressor , its a Cutts Compensator . Its really a muzzlebreak .

The M1928's had the Cutts , the military M1's and M1A1's were attempts to make the M1928 a cheaper , easier , faster weapon to produce . Didn't work out very well .

The US adopted the M3 " Grease Gun " to replace the Thompson , it was manufactured more like the MP40 and Stench... err ... Sten Gun ( stampings and welding ) than the Thompson ( Milling ) . The M3 was way cheaper to make .... and it shows  :(

Craig
 
You're right.... talking about the compensator ..... that was dropped during wartime production.
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Also, the "Blish" locking system used in the M1921 and M1928 series bolt assemblies was also discontinued with the M1 and M1A1; they used simple blowback to operate like the majority of other sub-machine guns during WW2.  ;)
 
WRT the M1, it had  the cocking handle on the side, and a non-removable stock, plus it would only accept the stick mags and not the drum.

The 1928 and A1 versions also have rear sights which are different, yet both take either stick or drum mags. The A1 although with the 'Cutts Comp' has no finned bbl.

These guns pictured were FTR'd at Lithgow in the 1950s, and so marked. If only they could talk, eh!

Cheers,

Wes
 
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