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http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/07/berkeley.protests/index.html

Here is the actual story:CNN) -- Berkeley, the famously liberal college town in California, has taken aim at Marine recruiters, saying they are "not welcome in our city."


Berkeley passed a measure last week encouraging protesters to gather outside the Marine office.

1 of 2 more photos »  Republican lawmakers in Washington fired back this week, threatening to take back more than $2 million of federal funding to the city as well as money designated for the University of California-Berkeley, the campus that became a haven of protests during the Vietnam War.

The battle erupted after the Berkeley City Council approved a measure last week urging the Marine recruiters to leave their downtown office.

"If recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome intruders," the item says.

It goes on to say the council applauds residents and organizations that "volunteer to impede, passively or actively, by nonviolent means, the work of any military recruiting office located in the City of Berkeley."  See photos of protesters camped outside Marine office »

Outside the Shattuck Avenue recruiting station earlier this week, a handful of protesters with the anti-war group Code Pink camped out, strumming a guitar as they sang anti-war songs and held signs against the Iraq war.

"Time to end the war, time to end the war, time to end the war right now," they sang to the beat of "I've Been Working on the Railroad."  Watch protesters sing "I Ain't Afraid" »

One giant sign said, "No Military Predators in Our Town." Another message on a pink placard read, "Join the Marines. Travel to Exotic Lands. Meet Exciting and Unusual People -- And Kill Them."

Zanne Joi peered out from under her straw hat. "This Marine recruiting station is trying to recruit our youth to go to Iraq to kill and be killed. And we are against that," said Joi, a member of Code Pink Women for Peace.

"This is part of a multi-pronged effort to end this war."

Protester Sharon Adams added: "This recruiting station recruits people to go fight and then once they fight and they serve their country, our country doesn't take care of them. That's a shame."

But not everyone here supports the protesters.
Forrest Smith, who described himself as a veteran of U.S. Special Forces, said his son recently returned from a tour in Iraq and his daughter served in Afghanistan.

"My position on this is the Marines are the best thing we have," said Smith, decked out in Army fatigues.

He blasted the City Council for its action. "It's clearly an abuse of power."

A group of young students who strolled down the sidewalk shared that sentiment. They derided one of the protesters who argued the United States was involved in an illegal war in Iraq.

"Where's the logic in that whatsoever?" one of the young men said. "That's our national security, and you're here protesting the Marines."

Another said, "It makes me sick. It makes me sick."

Gunnery Sgt. Pauline Franklin, a spokeswoman for the Marine Corps Recruiting Command, told CNN there is "no plan for that office to move."

She said recruiters are there to "provide information to qualified men and women who are looking for opportunities that they may benefit from by serving in the military."

"The Marine Corps is here to support and defend the Constitution of the United States, which does guarantee the freedom of speech," Franklin said. "In terms of the situation in Berkeley, the City Council and the protesters are exercising their right to do so."

In Washington, a group of Republican lawmakers have introduced the Semper Fi Act of 2008 -- named after the Marine motto -- to rescind more than $2 million of funds for Berkeley and transfer it to the Marine Corps.

"Like most Americans, I really get disturbed when taxpayer money goes to institutions which proceed to take votes, make policy or make statements that really denigrate the military," said Sen. David Vitter, R-Louisiana, a co-sponsor of the bill.

He told CNN he believes the bill will pass. "I think it's going to have significant support."

The bill's co-sponsor, Sen. Jim DeMint, R-South Carolina, said in a written statement, "Berkeley needs to learn that their actions have consequences."

Berkeley's declaration, which was introduced by the city's Peace and Justice Commission, accuses the United States of having a history of "launching illegal, immoral and unprovoked wars of aggression and the Bush administration launched the most recent of those wars in Iraq and is threatening the possibility of war in Iran."


It adds, "Military recruiters are salespeople known to lie to and seduce minors and young adults into contracting themselves into military service with false promises regarding jobs, job training, education and other benefits."

Out on Shattuck Avenue, it appears the protesters have no plans to leave anytime soon. "We are the civilian population; we control the military," Adams said. "We the people have to take back our control of the military."
As much as I hate this kind of crap I love the response by the republicans.  You'd never see that kind of response here


 
    Some days I wonder if its even worth reading the news .  I here stuff like this and I want to shake my head . I really personally fear that one day hopefully far far away all this loony left stuff is probably gonna bite us in the back side .
 
    My personal politics aside, this kind of thing discredits people who may lean left and want to have intelligent debate about issues like this. Gets the far right all riled up :threat: and the majority of us somewhere in the middle who would like to talk about our differences get caught in the crossfire. :warstory:


Edited for wonky spacing
 
Should a Jihadi cell ever attack Berkley, you can only imagine the howls of outrage by the local population:

"Where were the Marines when we needed them!"
 
Some more links:

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/10/berkeley-code-pinkos-deface-us-marine.html

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=41464



 
Steel Horse said:
The Canadian Federation of Students has something similar to this.  They don't want any CF Recruiters on Canadian University Campuses.
However, most local councils have very little say who administration lets onto campus.

This isn't about UC Berkely not allowing the USMC on their campus, this is the fraggin CITY COUNCIL saying get out to the Marines.  I am betting Miller and his sycophants are taking note of this as well.
 
http://www.chronwatch-america.com/blogs/917/-Citizens-Boycott-of-Berkeley-Letter-Widely-Praised.html

Apparently, a letter written to the Mayor of Berkeley by someone with maybe a bit of influence:

Dear Mayor Bates:   
                                                                                                                                                                                 

        In that you and your city have chosen to gravely insult the brave men and women, who have indeed bought you that right with their blood, I am informing you that my company will no longer do business with any of our current suppliers located in the Berkeley, California, metro area.

        In that my company is an international resort real estate development, and do business with and am associated with, developers and investors worldwide, I am informing all of my contacts, associates and patrons that we will no longer do any business of any sort with anyone living in the Berkeley area.

        In that we/MDG Resorts are currently building a state of the art mega-yacht marina, all of the suppliers of Marina equipment, all owners of Yachts, all suppliers of yacht materials and supplies, all yacht brokers and all tangential yacht business purveyors will likewise be informed that we will not do any business whatsoever with anyone from the Berkeley area.

        Likewise all suppliers of building materials, both interior and exterior, currently associated with any of our several resort developments (Brisamar 300+ villas and 200+ condos:  Porto Hussong, www.portohussong.com 500+ condos,180 slip mega-yacht marina) both of which I might add have international recognition by virtue of glowing reports in Robb Report,  Wall Street Journal, Yacht World, Forbes.

        I will likewise inform all of our investors, most of whom are very wealthy yacht owners, casino owners, high net worth international businessmen, of our decision to essentially boycott all products and providers located in, or associated with in any way whatsoever,Berkeley, California.

        Trust me when I say that having been in the real estate development business for over 35 years, our list of contacts and associates is long and very, very impressive.  We, and I personally, are going to recommend that they ALL, along with us, boycott your city, its purveyors, suppliers, businesses, and charaties of every kind.

        You have every right to choose to take the obnoxious anti-military stance that you have taken, and as stated, that right was bought for you with the blood of better men than you.

        I, too, have every right to do all that I can to insure that your city suffers consequences arising from that obnoxious, sickening stance.

Cordially,

Brian G. Dennard
[email protected]

Principal

Director
Meridian Development Group, LLC
619 807 2444
www.mdgresorts.com
www.portohussong.com

;D
 
As well today
http://www.contracostatimes.com/ci_8238813?source=most_viewed
Protestors get an early start in Berkeley
By Doug Oakley
STAFF WRITER


Article Launched: 02/12/2008 03:04:35 AM PST

A pre-dawn confrontation broke out this morning in Berkeley between peaceniks and pro military groups, more than 12 hours before the City Council considers to rescind its statement telling the U.S. Marines they're unwelcome in this leftie town.
Police were forced to form a line between the two groups to keep them apart shortly after 6 a.m. at the park across Martin Luther King Jr. Way from old City Hall, where the City Council meets.

An hour and a half later, the shouting continued, but there had been no arrests, a police dispatcher said.

The Berkeley City Council tonight is scheduled to revisit the council's Jan. 29 approval of a resolution calling the U.S. Marines' recruiting office on Shattuck Avenue "uninvited and unwelcome intruders."

The 6-3 vote on that item caused a nationwide backlash against the city, prompting Republicans in Washington and Sacramento to introduce legislation to take away money for things like school lunches and police communications equipment.

Just about every City Council meeting in Berkeley includes protesters who show support or disdain for whatever is on the agenda. There are others who come regularly to boo and hiss at their elected enemies, seemingly just for sport.

But tonight, the city is likely to host the largest of all meetings in recent history. Councilman Gordon Wozniak, who opposed the council's actions two weeks ago concerning the recruiting station, said he received 26,000 e-mails on the subject in the past supporting the Marines, 2,000 against -- and he is one of nine council members.
"On a hot issue, we sometimes get a couple hundred e-mails," Wozniak said. "I've never seen anything like this. I'm getting one every five minutes. It's huge."

In a warm-up for the meeting, today's protests could bring more than 500 people from both sides. And hundreds of union members are expected at the meeting to protest a separate item seeking to regulate a local steel foundry.

Sacramento-based Move America Forward and a handful of other pro-military organizations are set to bring several hundred protesters in front of the council chamber starting at 5 a.m. On the other side, Code Pink, a women's peace organization, was planning to camp out for 24 hours to argue that the U.S. Marines should get out of town.

Meanwhile, union workers are protesting a move to put restrictions on Pacific Steel Casting, which many in Berkeley blame for a persistent odor and health problems in some neighborhoods.

All of those demonstrators are expected at a meeting space with a 123-person capacity.

To accommodate tonight's expected crowd of protesters and media, the city will broadcast the meeting outside on speakers.

Move America Forward is already unhappy with what council members are not planning to do -- rescinding four other items the council passed that are seen as swipes at the Marines. Those items asked the city attorney to investigate whether the Marines are violating city law prohibiting discrimination based on sexual orientation; urged people to "impede" the recruiting work of the Marines in Berkeley; and giving Code Pink a free parking space and sound permit in front of the recruiting station once a week to protest.

The proposal by council members Betty Olds and Laurie Capitelli to rescind the item sending the Marines a letter asking them to leave is the 25th of 28 items on tonight's agenda and could come up for debate near midnight. What's more, pro-military supporters will have to sit through another item likely to make them seethe: urging Canada to provide sanctuary for U.S. military war resisters.

"Our organization has taken a stand that the council needs to apologize and rescind all the resolutions," said Danny Gonzalez, communications director for Move America Forward. "We can only hope that one of the council members has the sense to make a change and re-evaluate their stance on all the issues."

By only rescinding the one item, the council, in effect, is still "attempting to get the Marines to leave," Gonzalez said.

"They're just trying to get the heat off, and that's not going to work," Gonzalez said. "It's empty. It's not a genuine apology."

Code Pink is going to the meeting to thank the council for its actions against the recruiting station.

"We're so pleased the council is taking a strong stand for peace, and we intend to be there in full force to let them know we support them," said Zanne Joi, a Code Pink activist. "We trust the council will not be swayed by this vicious right-wing attack."

Joi said the reaction by people across the country, angry that the council asked the Marines to leave town, shows that the tide of public sentiment has long since turned against the war in Iraq.

"This violent reaction of the pro-war forces shows how threatened they are by a small group of people working against recruitment," Joi said. "They claim the Marines fought for our freedom of speech, and how dare we use our freedom of speech against them."

Reach Doug Oakley at [email protected].

IF YOU GO


WHAT: Berkeley City Council meeting

WHEN: 7 p.m. today

WHERE: 2134 Martin Luther King Jr. Way

ON THE AIR: The meeting will be broadcast live on KPFB Radio 89.3 and on Cable B-TV, Channel 33
Might be worth the listen, if you happen to be up at the time

Which can be heard here

 
omg    I am literally speechless. I've heard of some crazy things, talked to some crazy people, tried "discussing" certain issues with individuals on the far left, but this takes the cake.

Where does a city get off on telling a Federal agency, any agency, to get out of town? Is that even legal?

I am not all that familiar with California's constitution, but I'm going to guess that there is no city council that has the authority to ban or discriminate against a  Federal agency. Are the legal beagles just waiting for the locals to sort themselves out before they step in?

Freedom of speech my left butt-cheek, sounds more like an abuse of power.

And besides, I like the Marines, work with them any day.

Wook
 
Showdown looms in 'treasonous' Berkeley

(CNN)  -- Military supporters descended on Berkeley early Tuesday, demanding the famously liberal California college town rescind its vote that says Marine recruiters are "not welcome in this city."

The pro-military demonstrators were met by anti-war protesters who had camped out overnight, setting the stage for a dramatic showdown late in the day when the City Council is to discuss whether to revoke its previous vote. "Their treasonous action, especially at this time of war right now, is not acceptable," said Mary Pearson, a spokeswoman for the group Move America Forward. "It's very, very important for everyone to stand united ... to give our Marines and all of our military the greatest respect and honor that they deserve."

Before the sun was even up, about 300 demonstrators -- both pro-military and anti-war -- were already standing toe-to-toe in downtown. Many traded jeers and sneers. "Code Pink doesn't stand for us," one sign said, held by a man in military fatigues. Signs held by anti-war activists read, "End the War" and "Bring the troops home now."

The City Council is to meet at 7 p.m. PT on whether to take back its previous measure urging the Marine recruiters to leave town. "If recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome intruders," the measure says. It went on to say the council applauds residents and organizations that "volunteer to impede, passively or actively, by nonviolent means, the work of any military recruiting office located in the City of Berkeley."

Ever since the council measure, protesters with the anti-war group Code Pink have camped outside the Marine recruiting office on Shattuck Avenue, singing peace songs and chanting slogans for an end to the Iraq war. Photo See photos of Code Pink protesters outside Marine office »

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Republican lawmakers in Washington fired back last week, threatening to recall more than $2 million of federal funding to the city as well as money designated for the University of California-Berkeley, the campus that became a bastion of liberalism during the Vietnam War. The Marine Corps has said it has no plans to move its office, which is located about a block from the college campus. Whether the City Council reverses course remains to be seen.

Max Anderson, a Vietnam war veteran who serves on the council, said he fully supports the measure to get Marine recruiters out of town -- despite receiving more than 8,000 e-mails, most of them harsh in tone, on the matter. "If the aim was to shut us down, get us to back up, get us to eat our words, get us to retreat from our position with the war, they can forget that," he told CNN Monday.

He said he was recruited by Marines after he graduated from high school in 1963 and was promised that he and his friends would serve together. But once they enlisted, he said, they were separated and shipped off to Vietnam. "We're not against the Marines per se," he said. "We're against this war. We're against the mechanisms that support this war and send our young people over there."

Kriss Worthington, a progressive Berkeley activist and council member for 11 years, believes the council overreached. "The inflammatory language in the City Council item is really outrageous -- not just to right-wing people, but to mainstream liberal people and even to some peace activists who have said they're insulted that the city would have such language," Worthington said. He said Berkeley owes an apology to the military and to the peace movement "for having such embarrassing language allegedly trying to promote peace."

"When you make a colossal blunder, you can't just sort of ignore the mistake and go about your way. You have to do something to fix it," Worthington said.
 
Sig_Des said:
http://www.chronwatch-america.com/blogs/917/-Citizens-Boycott-of-Berkeley-Letter-Widely-Praised.html

Apparently, a letter written to the Mayor of Berkeley by someone with maybe a bit of influence:

;D

That is AWESOME! I hope that others follow that lead and show that if your not going to be a team player... prepare to be shuned by the team supporters.
 
I suspect the aftermath of this will be that no other city will try to pull such a stunt, similar to how the university group up here was smacked down for the same sort of crap. Once normal people get motivated to express outrage, the nutbars are run out of town pretty quick.
 
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/10/canada-deports-code-pinkos.html

Canadian Connection... apparently we threw out some Code Pinkos out of Canada ;)
 
Cataract Kid said:
As well today
http://www.contracostatimes.com/ci_8238813?source=most_viewedMight be worth the listen, if you happen to be up at the time

Which can be heard here

They have two more items to table before the USMC/ Code Pinko, approx an hour (council is on a break).
I just started listening, don't know if the Canada/Sanctuary has come up yet.

 
http://www.ci.berkeley.ca.us/uploadedFiles/Clerk/Level_3_-_General/2008-02-12_Item_17_Letter_To_Canadian_Officials_Requesting_Sanctuary_For_U.S._War_Resisters.pdf

Their proposed letter to Harper
 
Trinity, be sure to watch, the USMC issue is up next (they are in a break right now and observers who want to get in are being allowed (Move America Forward supporters?). The council said that this was the last issue on the table so, unless the "Canadian Connection" was tabled earlier, this would be the time.

EDIT: Game On
Reiteration of Berkeley's Opposition to the Iraq War and Clarification of the City's Support for the Men and Women who Voluntarily Serve this Country in the Military

 
Sorry..

I watched for 40 minutes of the topic of putting up cell towers, item number 23.
People were making anti war speeches in there too... and then saying, oh, we're against the cell towers too.

I couldn't stay up late enough for the Code Pinko's rant against the USMC.  Was too late on my end and just listening
to the drivel and stupidity from these people drove me crazy.

 
Apparently there was a kerfuffle as the code pink activitsts crossed the street and attacked the pro-troop activists yesterday, while the Berkeley PD stood by and didn't do anything. Trying to find viable sources.
 
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