BMQ to BMOQ - is it necessary?

[ltmaverick25]

I have a few questions pertaining to my own situation.

I have been an NCM for 14 years, 10 years artillery, 4 years Int Op.  In that time I completed the old QL2 Basic and all the funky add ons that came along with it, QL3 Artillery, QL4 Arty Comms.  Then I went on to do the JLC when it was still called that.  I did the JNCO right afterwards but got injurded in the last week and had to be recoursed.  The system then changed to the PLQ method.  So I completed MOD 3 and 5, then did the MOD 6 to complete my PLQ qualification at Leadership Coy in Pet.  Also did QL3, then QL5 Int Op.  Ive worked as an instructor on BMQs and Int Op courses as well.

Anyway, I now a MARS Officer and was granted an IAP bypass but was surprised that the BOTC had not been written off as well.  Back when I was still army I was told the BOTC would be written off for sure, but apparently Navy land not so much.  I would very much like not to have to do a 3rd PLQ style course all over again

Does anyone have any insight on this?  How exactly do I go about this PLAR procedure?  Is it worth a shot in my case or is it a waste of time?

 

[MJP]

Here is the link of the documents required when submitting an equivalency to the BMOQ: http://www.cda-acd.forces.gc.ca/DLI/engraph/services/accred/milequiv/botp_e.asp

Try it as the worse they can say is no.

 

[AD]

I have a similar situation, though I am an O'cdt. I completed IAP in the summer of 2007. This past summer I was injured on BOTP an recoursed for this summer. Now that the system has changed, I may have to complete the entire BMOQ course. I have discussed with my SEM possibly getting a bypass of IAP, and slipping into the course when BOTP starts, but he does not have any information for me other than, "maybe you'll do it, maybe you won't have to."

I am going to take matters into my own hands and write the memos and complete the forms necessary. However, if I do have to complete the 15 week BMOQ course, I am fine. There's nothing wrong with a refreshment of information you've already received. Yes, it's time consuming, and not very cost-effective, and you will be treated as a piece of dirt, but c'est la vie! There are many pros and cons to the situation. The best we can do is try to get a bypass, and if they say no, suck it up and do the course. You've already done it, so it shouldn't be too hard.

Lots-a-luck!

 

[ltmaverick25]

Here is the link of the documents required when submitting an equivalency to the BMOQ: http://www.cda-acd.forces.gc.ca/DLI/engraph/services/accred/milequiv/botp_e.asp

Try it as the worse they can say is no.

Thanks, I was just reading in the other thread that pertains directly to this and it seems like at least one person had some success with this so I will give it a try.  Sadly Im not at a DIN right now so I will have to wait until tomorrow.

 

[ltmaverick25]

I have a similar situation, though I am an O'cdt. I completed IAP in the summer of 2007. This past summer I was injured on BOTP an recoursed for this summer. Now that the system has changed, I may have to complete the entire BMOQ course. I have discussed with my SEM possibly getting a bypass of IAP, and slipping into the course when BOTP starts, but he does not have any information for me other than, "maybe you'll do it, maybe you won't have to."

I am going to take matters into my own hands and write the memos and complete the forms necessary. However, if I do have to complete the 15 week BMOQ course, I am fine. There's nothing wrong with a refreshment of information you've already received. Yes, it's time consuming, and not very cost-effective, and you will be treated as a piece of dirt, but c'est la vie! There are many pros and cons to the situation. The best we can do is try to get a bypass, and if they say no, suck it up and do the course. You've already done it, so it shouldn't be too hard.

Lots-a-luck!

You are a much more patient man that I am.  After 14 years of that BS the last thing I want to do is do it again!! 

 

[AD]

Haha well I've only been in for 3, so I'm not really used to anything else!! I think I would feel a lot different if I were in your situation.
But, as I've learned in the short time I've been a member, the army loves to spend time and money. As much as it can.

Allie! (yes, I am a female) I think i'll change my display name now haha

 

[Sly@CDA]

I have a few questions pertaining to my own situation.

I have been an NCM for 14 years, 10 years artillery, 4 years Int Op.  In that time I completed the old QL2 Basic and all the funky add ons that came along with it, QL3 Artillery, QL4 Arty Comms.  Then I went on to do the JLC when it was still called that.  I did the JNCO right afterwards but got injurded in the last week and had to be recoursed.  The system then changed to the PLQ method.  So I completed MOD 3 and 5, then did the MOD 6 to complete my PLQ qualification at Leadership Coy in Pet.  Also did QL3, then QL5 Int Op.  Ive worked as an instructor on BMQs and Int Op courses as well.

Anyway, I now a MARS Officer and was granted an IAP bypass but was surprised that the BOTC had not been written off as well.  Back when I was still army I was told the BOTC would be written off for sure, but apparently Navy land not so much.  I would very much like not to have to do a 3rd PLQ style course all over again

Does anyone have any insight on this?  How exactly do I go about this PLAR procedure?  Is it worth a shot in my case or is it a waste of time?

You are eligible for an equivalency. The Canadian Defence Academy has been granting equivalencies to the BOTP to members who have completed a PLQ, JLC, PRes Jnr NCO etc...follow the link that MJP provided.  Don't forget to include a letter of recommendations from your CO (very important).

MJP: I'm still waiting for your paperwork!

 

[MJP]

MJP: I'm still waiting for your paperwork!

I have emailed my ULO with the memo and what not...hopefully it doesn't take forever to get to the CDA.

 

[ltmaverick25]

Sly20 are you one of the people that processes this paperwork?

I just spoke to my DIV O about the situation today and he fully supports the idea and is confident the CO will write a good letter for me so I am hoping it will work out.  Im going to get all this stuff filled out and sent off tomorrow.  I really hope this works, not only will I not have to do this type of course AGAIN, but I will have 6 extra weeks to work on my thesis before NETP-O starts.