bottom line, is a tour to AFG volunteer or voluntold?

[Pharoah007]

I was just told that I MUST go on work up trng for Tour next week, I explained to my COC that I am in the middle of buying a house and my wife has no way to complete this transaction/move her self. My COC said "tough, you are going"

Is a tour MANDATORY or can one be refused?

thanks in advance all.

 

[dapaterson]

Reg Force?  Yes, it's an order.

 

[Jammer]

You're not gonna like this answer but, sure you can refuse a tour...go to the padre/social worker or what you BUT...consider this, buying a house is not really a reason for not going on tour. I don't know what you do so I can't comment on that part.
Suffice to say that unless you have a really valid reason (medical, family issues...etc). If you are tagged for a Roto...you go.

 

[Michael OLeary]

Get your power of attorney done so your wife can complete the purchase without you.  Or postpone the purchase, I suggest taking the choice that will keep her happy until your tour ends.

Line up some friends to help her with the move if needed.

Make sure your mortgage has the flexibility so you can dump some tour pay on it when you get back, paying down early pays off in interest charges over time. 

 

[caocao]

don't wimp out take the tour!  I have been there twice already and would go back for a third tour in a minute.  Think of all the extra cash you'll be able to put on the house upon your return.

 

[AmmoTech90]

Unless your wife has intensily personal problem as to why she can't buy the house I don't think you have a leg to stand on.  As mentioned previously, get a power of attorney.  My wife was able to buy a house in Canada and arrange the move from the United Kingdom while I was in Afghanistan where I had no access to Canadian admin.

It aint rocket science.

 

[armyvern]

I was just told that I MUST go on work up trng for Tour next week, I explained to my COC that I am in the middle of buying a house and my wife has no way to complete this transaction/move her self. My COC said "tough, you are going"

Is a tour MANDATORY or can one be refused?

thanks in advance all.

Reg Force = mandatory, but you've already been advised of that - and that's no secret. If you're RegF, I'm quite surprised that you seem to be unaware of that.

Buying a house? That is strictly a matter of PERSONAL ADMINISTRATION. You also have a duty to keep your matters of personal administration sorted out so that they "do not interfere with or affect your deployability".

Buying a house without you? That's actually quite simple - you have been given warning that you are proceeding on WU Trg and deployment; you are now obligated to sort out your personal affairs (that's after all the reason that they give us heads-up) so that they do not interfere with that obligation to do your job that you now find yourself subjected to. During my last deployment, my ex and I were well aware that we would be posted from one location to another while I was 1/2 through my deployment - thus "we" had to sell a house and "we" had to buy a new one at the new location all without me there. "We" of course means "HE". He also had to move the family from one location to another all on his own.

How did we accomplish that? "WE" (and that's actually he & I) called our mortgage holder (our bank) as soon as I received word of my upcoming tour and advised them that I would be deployed during the time period that the house needed to be sold and a new one bought. They gave us an appointment to come into the bank the very next day. There, they had a "Bank Power of Attorney" waiting for us to sign. I effectively signed the PoA which gave my ex the power to both sell and buy the homes and all other necessary financial transactions on behalf of the both of us, but all titles/deeds still in both of our names vice just his. All fun and legal.

Took one whole phone call to the bank and a further 15 minute visit to the bank to accomplish - ie: got my personal shit sorted out so that it did not affect my deployability as is required of us RegF members by regulation.

 

[Pharoah007]

thanks for all the input. Power of attorney does solve one of the problems, but a few still remain. my wife and I are new to this unit and as such have no friends or family in this town. also my wife does not drive so she can not rent the rental cube van to move our stuff, nor lift it all her self.

I am sure this will all work out at my unit in time, for better or worse.

Again thanks all for input, and keep the opinions coming.

P.S. as for the person who told me not to "wimp out", please check yourself. I already have 1 tour in AFG so that is not the issue. I take offense to that statement.

 

[Franko]

P.S. as for the person who told me not to "wimp out", please check yourself. I already have 1 tour in AFG so that is not the issue. I take offense to that statement.

How about you "check yourself" and then fill out your profile.....nothing in there about a tour completed. No one here can read minds or your UER.

I'll echo others POV:

You chose to buy a house. It's not the unit's responsibility/ decision...it's yours.

Regards

 

[Jarnhamar]

Get a lawyer to go over your power of attorney kit. The one the army gives you is shit. I had nothing but problems with mine.

That's not filled out correctly
We don't use that form anymore
We don't recognize this.
This isn't the one you're supposed to use.


For all the good it did my wife while I was away she might as well had a handful of toilet paper

 

[armyvern]

Get a lawyer to go over your power of attorney kit. The one the army gives you is shit. I had nothing but problems with mine.

...

For all the good it did my wife while I was away she might as well had a handful of toilet paper

I know that our bank did not recognize the CF PoA. That's why we filled out the bank's own PoA for our home sale/purchase/financial matters.

 

[PMedMoe]

Most banks have their own PoA.  When I went to Bosnia, I had both the military one and one from TD bank.  All bases were covered then.

 

[Occam]

Get a lawyer to go over your power of attorney kit. The one the army gives you is shit.

Best advice yet so far.

The bank's POA isn't good anywhere but at the bank.  The CF's POA isn't honoured everywhere.

The one that a lawyer draws up can be unlimited (should you wish it), and it is recognized everywhere.

 

[Zoomie]

I had my POA form filled out and notarized by CF JAG - it was accepted where-ever my wife needed it.  POA is not rocket science, it just needs to be properly notarized and worded correctly.  Your friendly neighbourhood JAG will have the necessary skills and it is free.

 

[PMedMoe]

The bank's POA isn't good anywhere but at the bank.

And some banks insist that you have theirs.

The CF's POA isn't honoured everywhere.

Never had an issue with mine.  As a matter of fact, I filled it out in 2001 and hubby used it just last year.

 

[meni0n]

He`s right, we had a briefing from a JAG and CF`s POA is not valid everywhere. Banks can have their own forms to fill out in order for a significant other to be able to do POA type transactions. It`s recommended to call your financial institution and any other places where your significant other will need to use POA to find out if there are any specific paperwork nees to be filled out.

 

[Occam]

And some banks insist that you have theirs.

They can insist all they like, but a duly notarized POA drafted by a solicitor cannot be refused by any institution.

Never had an issue with mine.  As a matter of fact, I filled it out in 2001 and hubby used it just last year.

Get a lawyer to go over your power of attorney kit. The one the army gives you is shit. I had nothing but problems with mine.

I know that our bank did not recognize the CF PoA. That's why we filled out the bank's own PoA for our home sale/purchase/financial matters.

There's two members right there who had problems with the CF POA (and I make three), so the evidence isn't exactly anecdotal.  The easy solution is to spend the couple hundred bucks and get a Will and POA done up at the same time, and you're guaranteed to not have any problems.  If an institution gives a hard time, the lawyer who notarized the POA will set them straight, gratis.

 

[PMedMoe]

I didn't mean to infer that the CF PoA is good everywhere, just that I didn't have problems with mine in Petawawa.  Yes, it's a good idea to get a civvy one done, just to be safe.  As far as the bank one, usually it's a local form, signed by the bank manager and it's free, so why not get it anyway?

 

[Fishbone Jones]

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