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Canada's Place in the Global Economy

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Also, on a general principle, it is cheaper to ship refined raw materials than it is to ship finished goods.  By refined raw materials I mean squared timbers, ingots and pure bulk goods like coal and wheat. 

The finished goods are, like cars and tvs are very bulky - of low density, that means a big ship is required to transport a small mass.  That same mass could be transported in a small ship if it were just transporting the raw materials for assembly at the point of use.  Consider it as the Ikea principle.

Additional benefits include: the consumer of the raw material gets to build to meet their local market demands and doesn't have to deal with the waste materials;  the supplier of the raw material doesn't have to worry about generating products that comply with the myriad of government regulations proliferating around the world1 and gets to keep the "waste materials" which can often be reprocessed to create by-products which can in turn be sold onwards.

Finally, a resource based economy works very well for a rich nation of idle layabouts because we don't have to spend many man hours working.  We can use all those intelligent minds to create a machine to do the job, put it on autopilot, and go have a coffee.  We can then go and sell the machine to other countries aspiring to be layabouts - of course many of them have too many layabouts as it is and would prefer to force them to use picks, shovels and axes.

1 As it stands often the hardest working and unhappiest person in a plant is the poor blighter stuck with reading, interpreting, understanding and enforcing all those regulations at the plant floor - your friendly, neighbourhood, Quality Assurance Manager.
 
Federal Reserve May Be `Central Bank of the World' After UBS, Barclays Aid

.....“We’re talking about huge sums of money going to bail out large foreign banks,” said Senator Bernard Sanders, the Vermont independent who wrote the provision in the Dodd-Frank Act that required the Fed disclosures. “Has the Federal Reserve become the central bank of the world? I think that is a question that needs to be examined.”
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“Things would have been worse if they hadn’t lent to foreigners,” said Perry Mehrling, senior fellow at the Morin Center for Banking and Financial Law at Boston University and author of “The New Lombard Street: How the Fed became the Dealer of Last Resort.” “We’re finally getting to understand the role of the Fed in the world.”

Bloomberg

It seems to me that this has been the case ever since the US relieved Britain of the Responsibilities and Privileges associated with having the Bank of England control the gold standard based monetary system at Bretton Woods.  The US took over the remaining responsibilities in 1971 when Nixon unilaterally declared that the gold standard was defunct and the US Dollar was the basis of the global economy.  With that assertion theu US reaped the benefits of being able to set value basedd on what its market was willing to bear and its taxpayers benefited mightily.  At the same time, however, it became its responsibilty, its taxpayers responsibilty, to ensure that the international monetary system remained on a stable footing.

Perhaps we could consider it the US's greatest unfunded liability.
 
Bretton Woods established the US Dollar, not the Pound, as the gold-based common global currency. Nixon took the US off this standard about the same time that the US began to "punish" labour, resulting in four decades of (real) income decrease, allowing the huge US debt crisis to build.
 
I will not get around to reading Brown's new book until around end December so I will have to rely upon this “review,” reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisions (§29) of the Copyright Act from the Globe and Mail, but, IF Brown is right (and he's a pretty astute observer) then we – the US led Western “we” are headed down a dangerous path:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/a-stark-warning-from-britains-former-pm/article1833930/singlepage/#articlecontent
A stark warning from Britain's former PM

DOUG SAUNDERS

London— From Saturday's Globe and Mail
Published Friday, Dec. 10, 2010


Unseasonably heavy snowfall has shut down the roads and airports and trains from Scotland for nearly a week, leaving the windswept county of Fife, across the Firth of Forth from Edinburgh, more or less isolated from the world. This means Gordon Brown, the county's elected representative, has been trapped in London all week, unable to see his wife and children.

So it is perhaps not surprising that, as Mr. Brown steps into his City of London office to give one of his first interviews since his defeat as Prime Minister in May, he has returned to the tightly wound, somewhat taciturn temperament that dogged him through that lachrymose campaign. Back then, British voters, hobbled by three years of economic shocks, came to see him as the awkward plodder against the bubbly freshness of Tory David Cameron and Liberal Democrat Nick Clegg, who now run the British government together on a cost-cutting mission that led them into their own riot-torn crises this week.

But it is also likely, you realize, that repeated incidents of such geographical and climatic isolation have had an effect on the psyche of this 59-year-old Scotsman, much as they once did on that other economic thinker from Fife, Adam Smith. For Gordon Brown has ended his eight-month exile from the media in order to issue a stark and explicit warning to the world. It is a warning, published in a 315-page manifesto titled Beyond The Crash: Overcoming the First Crisis of Globalization, that has almost everything to do with the former prime minister's deep and nagging fear that the countries of the world are falling victim to isolation – economic, monetary, fiscal, trade, political and institutional isolation – that will end the startling project of unity he attempted in 2008 and plunge us into trouble.

“Let me just say,” he says, before my bottom has touched the seat in his 32nd-floor office, “it looks to me, as someone who can see the trends and the forces at work, that some of the policies we're applying are very similar to the 1930s. And we're in danger of making the mistakes of the 1930s.”

This is not a man with a gift for small talk, as Britain was horrified to learn during the election. We keep ours brief and largely confined to the climatic similarities between Ottawa and Edinburgh. Gordon Brown has not written a book, like the tome recently published by his predecessor and nemesis Tony Blair, as a personal apologia. It does offer a quick defence of his record – he managed, for eight years as finance minister and prime minister, to rein in spending despite a Labour Party social-progress agenda, and keep Britain's public debt to historically low levels, before doing just the opposite in his final two years, and pouring almost half a trillion pounds into rescuing the banks and averting a total crash. He used the G20, previously an obscure meeting of leaders of rich and once-poor countries, to get all the major economies to pour trillions into the system, pushing the world away from the brink and turning a cataclysmic depression into a mere recession.

That now feels like a very long time ago. Now Gordon Brown is watching the world go the opposite way.

His successors have launched what may be the quickest budget-slashing exercise in modern Western history, chopping half a million public-sector jobs. U.S. President Barack Obama this week allowed the Republican-heavy Congress to extend George W. Bush's tax cuts for the very wealthy, effectively removing $700-billion from public investment. And the euro zone is in chaos, unable to co-ordinate a solution.

“Look, the economic orthodoxies which are fashionable today will either be proved to be right or wrong,” he says, exasperated. “My view has been that the world needs to recover growth, and that if we're going to be properly poised for the future, we have to invest. And you've got to be able to trade, then we've got to resist protectionism.”

The election loss, he acknowledges, was rooted in his own awkward lack of communications skills. But not in the sense that the British media understood this: In Gordon Brown's view, he could not get people to think beyond their own borders and understand the huge global rebalancing that has put countries like his in a new role.

“It's very difficult to explain these things to electorates who are looking for quick answers. And I wasn't able to communicate the full strength of the choices that we have had to make,” he says.

“The problem is that we've had a restructuring of the world economy, which means that Europe and North America are out-produced and out-invested and out-manufactured and out-traded by the rest of the world now, for the first time in 200 years … but we're not out-consumed by them. And amid all the talk of deficit reduction, I don't think you can ignore the fact that America and Canada and the rest of Europe have got to invest in the future. Because the big opportunity about to come up is that you're going to have a consumer boom in Asia that is so big that it is going to be the equivalent of two Americas. And that is a huge opportunity for exporting countries to get products to these markets, which will create jobs in their own countries.”

But this is not a view that is being heard at the moment – or, at least, the desire to get government balance sheets in order and taxes down has overwhelmed them. The countries of the European periphery and Britain and the United States are pursuing a more orthodox economic model, choking off the sort of export-investment spending Mr. Brown would like to see and lowering their standards of living.

This, for the former prime minister, is a matter of constant frustration; he says, with a bit of the stump politician's cadences, that he is experiencing it viscerally in his snowbound riding.

“I've got 2,000 students applying for our local college who didn't get places because there have been cuts in educational support,” he says. “So you've got direct consequences from a chain of destruction, if you like, that started in the subprime housing market in America and has ended up with students not being able to get places in a local college thousands of miles away in Fife.”

Mr. Brown is hardly alone in the view that governments are making the wrong economic decisions at exactly the wrong time now. Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz and noted economist Paul Krugman have both raised dire warnings of this in recent weeks, as have a number of voices.

The problem, in their view, is that this may be the only opportunity to build demand in the Western economy. In previous crises, that would have been impossible, as it would have exacerbated inflation. But this is a crisis without inflation.

“If you don't go for growth in an atmosphere where you have low inflation, then you're missing an opportunity to use your resources effectively, to create both jobs and higher living standards. And if you become protectionist, as happened in the 1930s, and ban this and ban that, and opt out of the benefits of world trade, then you're going to miss out on the huge opportunity that exists in the future.”

Protectionism, he says, is becoming a genuine threat – both in the traditional tariffs and rejections of foreign investment, and in the downward spirals of currency devaluation that have pitted countries against one another this year.

“You have very little progress in the Doha trade round; you have the whole issue about currency wars; you have the whole question about restrictions on skilled workers, and you have questions about takeovers and everything else that you have in Canada. And the important thing to recognize is that we're now talking about how we can actually get the benefit of huge global markets, which, to be honest, we haven't been positioned to do for some time.”

It is an economic failing, in the Brownian view, that is rooted in a political flaw: Unlike his moment of glory around the G20 table in 2008 and 2009, the world leaders, despite a uniform conservatism in much of the West, are turning to narrow economic nationalism.

“At the moment people want to see these problems as purely domestic problems, and they either feel they've done well or badly in relation to their domestic situation. But actually for most countries these are global problems that are impinging on them as national problems.”

This all might bring to mind the old P.G. Wodehouse line about the ease of distinguishing a Scotsman with a grievance from a ray of sunshine. But just as quickly, Gordon Brown switches to his other mode, the son of a preacher, and tries to drum up some economic hope.

“I don't think the divergence is fundamental,” he says. “I think it can be resolved. I think that the art of politics is to find the common ground between what look like divergent positions. If people were around a table as we were in 2009, talking about how you address the problems that we actually face now, people would say that a return to higher levels of growth is absolutely critical if you want to bring unemployment down and reduce the deficit.”

It is just a matter of getting them around that table. The one we sit across, big enough to hold much of the G20, is nearly empty, and soon Mr. Brown bolts from it, grabs his coat, and rushes to Westminster to vote against the coalition government's tuition increase. His side loses, once again, and the outcome is a night of violent riots in London. It seems a dark, and unfortunate, confirmation of his belief.

Doug Saunders is a member of The Globe and Mail's European bureau.


A couple of useful, in my opinion, observations:

“It's very difficult to explain these things to electorates who are looking for quick answers. And I wasn't able to communicate the full strength of the choices that we have had to make.” This is, in part, what Kim Campbell was trying to say in 1993: election campaigns are poor places to debate policy.

“The problem is that we've had a restructuring of the world economy, which means that Europe and North America are out-produced and out-invested and out-manufactured and out-traded by the rest of the world now, for the first time in 200 years … but we're not out-consumed by them. And amid all the talk of deficit reduction, I don't think you can ignore the fact that America and Canada and the rest of Europe have got to invest in the future. Because the big opportunity about to come up is that you're going to have a consumer boom in Asia that is so big that it is going to be the equivalent of two Americas. And that is a huge opportunity for exporting countries to get products to these markets, which will create jobs in their own countries.” This is my constant drumbeat – we need to make goods and services that China and India want to buy from us – goods and services they cannot produce for themselves, perhaps because their education systems do not inculcate the sort of creativity they need.

“I've got 2,000 students applying for our local college who didn't get places because there have been cuts in educational support,” he says. “So you've got direct consequences from a chain of destruction, if you like, that started in the subprime housing market in America and has ended up with students not being able to get places in a local college thousands of miles away in Fife.” There is, as Brown says, a huge risk that cuts, for the sake of cutting, ends up cutting off one's nose to spite one's face.

“If you don't go for growth in an atmosphere where you have low inflation, then you're missing an opportunity to use your resources effectively, to create both jobs and higher living standards. And if you become protectionist, as happened in the 1930s, and ban this and ban that, and opt out of the benefits of world trade, then you're going to miss out on the huge opportunity that exists in the future.” History does repeat itself.

“At the moment people want to see these problems as purely domestic problems, and they either feel they've done well or badly in relation to their domestic situation. But actually for most countries these are global problems that are impinging on them as national problems.” This is what is happening in America and Britain and in many other countries. We turn towards destructive protectionism in a misunderstood effort to apply a domestic solution to a global problem.

Maybe Brown is right and maybe more and more talk around more and more Gn tables will stave off the a round of harmful protectionism. One can hope.
 
Spanish ghost towns. A similar thing is happening in China, (and had happened at the end of the 80's in Japan and in 2008 in the United States), and in the case of Japan, a refusal to allow the markets to clear resulted in two lost decades of deflation and sluggish economic growth. TARP and similar foolishness could cause a similar episode in the United States, and the article demonstrates some of the possible dangers:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/18/world/europe/18spain.html?_r=2&src=twrhp&pagewanted=print

Newly Built Ghost Towns Haunt Banks in Spain
By SUZANNE DALEY and RAPHAEL MINDER

YEBES, Spain — It is a measure of Spain’s giddy construction excesses that 250 row houses carpet a hill near this tiny rural village about an hour by car outside of Madrid.

Most of these units have never sold, and though they were finished just three years ago, they are already falling into disrepair, the concrete chipping off the sides of the buildings. Vandals have stolen piping, radiators, doors — anything they could get their hands on.

Those few families who live here keep dogs to ward off strangers.

Yebes is hardly unique. The wreckage of Spain’s once booming construction industry is everywhere. And much of it sits as bad debt on the books of Spain’s banks, which once liberally offered financing to developers and homeowners alike.

Just how big a loss the banks are facing is unknown, at least publicly, and that has investors worried — the cost of financing Spain’s debt rose 18 percent in the last month alone. But the potential costs of failure go far beyond that. Spain’s economy, the fifth largest in Europe, is much bigger than Ireland’s or Greece’s, and a bailout of its banks could be far more costly, an event that could push the government into default and end up dooming the euro itself.

The Bank of Spain says the banks have about $240 billion in “problematic exposure” out of $580 billion invested in real estate and construction, a situation, they say, the banks are capable of handling.

But not everyone believes that. Unlike American banks, Spanish banks have done little to open their books. Along with other banks in the euro zone, they underwent a stress test last July, and all but five of Spain’s smaller savings banks passed.

The trouble is that some Irish banks that also got a clean bill of health in that round of tests subsequently collapsed, raising a threat to the country’s solvency that has still not been quieted — on Friday, Moody’s slashed Ireland’s credit rating to near-junk status and warned of further downgrades — despite a bailout. Those failures undermined the credibility of the whole stress-test exercise and forced regulators to announce recently that the results of further tests would be published early next year.

The Bank of Spain is moving to lift confidence in its banks by forcing them next year to disclose more details about their holdings and to start acknowledging troubled assets faster. But just how much are those assets worth?

Rafael Valderrabano, who founded the Básico real estate company 18 months ago to help banks sell property they are repossessing from developers, says the country is full of situations like Yebes. Right now, he says, he is trying to sell units in 40 apartment blocks near Cuenca, an area southeast of Madrid that is sparsely populated.

“Who went to develop in this place?” Mr. Valderrabano asked. “Who did this? Worse, who financed this?”

A better known real estate debacle is a sprawling development in Seseña, south of Madrid, one of Spain’s “ghost towns.” It sits in a desert surrounded by empty lots. Twelve whole blocks of brick apartment buildings, about 2,000 apartments, are empty; the rest, only partly occupied. Most of the ground floor commercial space is bricked up.

The boom and bust of Spain’s property sector is astonishing. Over a decade, land prices rose about 500 percent and developers built hundreds of thousands of units — about 800,000 in 2007 alone. Developments sprang up on the outskirts of cities ready to welcome many of the four million immigrants who had settled in Spain, many employed in construction.

At the same time, coastal villages were transformed into major residential areas for vacationing Spaniards and retired, sun-seeking northern Europeans. At its peak, the construction sector accounted for 12 percent of Spain’s gross domestic product, double the level in Britain or France.

But almost overnight, the market disappeared. Many immigrants went home. The national unemployment rate shot up to 20 percent. And the northern Europeans stopped buying, too. But government officials now say the worst is over, with housing prices down a modest 12.8 percent from the peak, according to the Bank of Spain.

“Most of the adjustment in housing prices has already taken place,” José Manuel Campa, Spain’s deputy finance minister, said recently, though he allowed that there was a lack of good information on real estate sales.

Still, skeptics abound. One is Jesús Encinar, the founder of Spain’s most popular property Web site, Idealista.com. He says that the Spanish authorities are striving to engineer a soft landing of the housing market that would give more time to offload surplus housing at reasonable prices.

But he believes prices still have a long way to fall, by 30 or 40 percent, maybe more. “Some people who said there was no housing bubble are now saying we are at the bottom,” Mr. Encinar said. “But I say we have several years to go.”

He is not alone in scoffing at some of Spain’s numbers. In a report last April, the French bank Société Générale dismissed many of the assertions made by Spain’s banks, pointing out that Spain had one of the fastest rates of expansion in construction, had the largest number of mortgages per capita and was the most overbuilt among its peers. Yet prices had fallen the least. “We find it impossible to reconcile the banks’ claims of asset quality stability and the macro facts,” the report said.

There is also little agreement even on the number of housing units for sale. José Manuel Galindo, president of Madrid’s association of real estate developers, noted that one of Spain’s leading property appraisers, Tinsa, recently estimated that there were 10,000 unsold housing units around Spain’s capital city. Government figures, however, put the figure as high as 50,000 units, he said.

“What is amazing to me is that nobody is investing in doing a very thorough and reliable study of what is the exact supply and demand,” Mr. Galindo said.

There is, however, broad agreement that many of Spain’s empty units are in areas where there is little demand for them, particularly along the southern coastal areas where hills have disappeared under vast housing developments. Practically overnight, Spain’s banks have been forced to begin managing vast real estate portfolios, a role most were ill equipped to take on.

“They do not know how to take care of this housing stock or how to rehab properties,” said Raúl García García, from Tinsa.

While some banks have set up networks to sell property, many others are floundering, having trouble just keeping track of the keys. “They take the old guys who are sitting around and say: ‘Hey, you are in charge of real estate now,’ ” Mr. Encinar of Idealista.com said. “Some are not even answering the phone.”

Experts say that whatever is on the market now is only a piece of what is in the pipeline from distressed homeowners and developers. Mr. Encinar says the banks are holding back on putting property on sale, afraid to bring prices crashing down.

Fernando Acuña, co-founder of Pisosembargados.com, a Web site that sells housing on behalf of the banks, said as many as 100,000 repossessed units were now for sale in Spain, a number that “could double or triple.”

Still, eager to begin getting some of the property off their balance sheets, some banks have been offering deep discounts and special mortgage rates.

Experts say the banks are being slightly more choosy these days about who lend to. But the new loans — almost all of which are at variable rates — could create a second wave of defaults down the road when interest rates rise. Next year may produce a new round of defaults from developers as well. In the early days of the crisis, many banks renegotiated their loans. But experts say many of those deals will expire next year, and without any significant change in the economy, most developers will be no better off.

The tension between banks and developers, once happy accomplices in a booming business, is palpable. Mr. Galindo says that the banks are not lending to developers who have half-built projects and that they are favoring customers who want to buy bank-owned property when giving out mortgages.

The biggest challenge for the banks is that they are likely to end up owners of vast amounts of undeveloped land. José Luis Suárez, an expert on real estate at the IESE business school, said 65 percent of bank lending to developers is tied up in land, enough to build 758,000 more housing units. “That gives you an idea of how long it could take for the market to digest all this,” he said.

This article has been revised to reflect the following correction:

Correction: December 18, 2010

Because of an editing error, an earlier version of this article misstated Spain's economic ranking within Europe.
 
Sovereign debt. I will note that late in the article the author suggests there is only one solution to the debt crisis (economic growth), but discounts cutting spending as a solution. In any practical sense, cutting spending is the immediate action that buys time to set the table for economic growth:

http://www.newsweek.com/2010/12/27/the-west-and-the-tyranny-of-public-debt.html

The West and the Tyranny of Public Debt

Peet Simard / Corbis
French deficit spending led to revolution.

The history of public debt is the very history of national power: how it has been won and how it has been lost. Dreams and impatience have always driven men in power to draw on the resources of others—be it slaves, the inhabitants of occupied lands, or their own children yet to be born—in order to carry out their schemes, to consolidate power, to grow their own fortunes. But never, outside periods of total war, has the debt of the world’s most powerful states grown so immense. Never has it so heavily threatened their political systems and standards of living. Public debt cannot keep growing without unleashing terrible catastrophes.

Anyone saying this today is accused of pessimism. The first signs of economic recovery, harbingers of a supposedly falling debt, are held up to contradict him. Yet we wouldn’t be the first to think ourselves uniquely able to escape the fate of other states felled by their debt, such as the Republic of Venice, Renaissance Genoa, or the Empire of Spain.

The history of public debt is intimately tied to the evolution of the state itself. In the ancient empires—Babylon, Egypt, China—rulers must at least occasionally have found it necessary to borrow on the expectation of future conquests, harvests, or taxes. But it’s in Greece where the first known records of sovereign loans appeared in the 5th century B.C. With insufficient taxes and war booty to finance their military campaigns in the Peloponnesian War, the Greek city-states took to borrowing from the religious authorities, who had been hoarding temple offerings from the faithful. The debt habit quickly spread throughout the Greek city-states, and the hubris of debt played no small part in the erosion of Hellenic power and the rise of Rome.

Government borrowing continued, although during the entire first millennium A.D. it remained the exclusive right of princes, motivated—and reimbursed—mainly by warfare. Debt did not become truly “public” until national authority became something separate from the person of the prince. Once sovereignty finally became embodied as a state, an abstract and immortal entity, a nation’s debt could be carried over from one ruler to the next. This distinction, between the signer and the entity he represents, first appeared in Europe’s only stable organizations at the time: Christian religious orders. The first known institutional loan was contracted by the English monastery of Evesham in 1205.

The distinction proved useful and soon caught on in the Italian city-states. From the 13th to the 15th century, the princes and shipowners who governed Venice, Florence, and Genoa never stopped borrowing from merchants in order to finance their wars against one another for commercial supremacy. It was the Italians who invented the public treasury. In 1262, Reniero Zeno, Doge of Venice, explicitly allocated debt to the city, confiding its management to a specialized bureaucracy called Il Monte. His innovation quickly found imitators in rival Italian city-states and beyond.
With the rise of public treasuries came instruments for a more sophisticated management of public debt. Moratoriums, inflation, and defaults became stages of the debt cycle, and this inexorable pattern kept repeating itself, sometimes disrupted by revolutions, as in 18th-century France. Ruined by the Seven Years’ War and aid to the rebels in the American Revolution, the French kingdom was on the verge of bankruptcy. In 1787, public debt reached 80 percent of GDP and debt servicing accounted for 42 percent of state revenue. The taxpayers at the time—the bourgeoisie—took fright. What happened next is schoolbook history: finance minister Jacques Necker attempted a last-ditch effort to cut budgets and stabilize the deficit, Louis XVI summoned the Estates-General, and the French Revolution erupted.

Across the Atlantic, meanwhile, the leaders of the newly independent United States of America were struggling to manage the consequences of their own revolution. The rebels had taken out loans to finance the War of Independence, and now the young federal state had to decide how to deal with the public debt. The matter was settled on June 20, 1790, over dinner in New York. Alexander Hamilton conceded the establishment of the national capital in a neutral location; in exchange, Thomas Jefferson and James Madison agreed to roll the individual states’ war debts into bonds to be underwritten by the new federal government. In a sense, Washington, D.C., and America’s public debt were twins.

The American and French revolutions opened a new phase in the history of debt. With power now in the people’s hands, state spending grew to cover a wide range of public services: transportation, communication, police, health care, education, even retirement. These new needs drove more and more borrowing, resulting in the creation of ever-more-sophisticated financial instruments. But trouble arose as the amount of borrowing spawned doubt about governments’ capacity to repay, leading markets to demand ever-larger returns. Faced with unsustainable debt, states often simply defaulted. Between 1800 and 2009, the world experienced more than 300 national defaults, some on all debt, others only on the debt held by foreigners. That mortal combat between states and markets is now transfixing the world. Each side is anxiously watching the other’s every move.

How do we break the deadlock? The first step is to recognize that the worst is possible. History provides lessons. The first concerns the very nature of public debt: it is an obligation handed down from the present generation to future ones. The latter must always pay, one way or another—which is why public debt is acceptable only under certain conditions. First, it is tolerable only if you anticipate that future generations will be large and rich. Second, it is legitimate only if it finances forward-looking investment. Public debt can encourage growth and help make future generations richer. But for that, one must parse unwise debt (debt that finances running costs) from intelligent debt (public infrastructure for energy, transport, health care, or education).

History also teaches that public debt must be handled carefully even when it’s intelligent debt and even when the borrowing is moderate. Nobody can predict what will trigger a sovereign debt crisis because in practice such crises arise more from a subjective loss of confidence than the crossing of any specific threshold. But history has shown that almost all excessively indebted states eventually default. France did it six times, including the notorious 1797 Bankruptcy of the Two Thirds, in which the government repudiated 67 percent of the national debt. Some states have actually collapsed under sovereign debt crises: Venice in 1490, Genoa in 1555, Spain in 1650, and Amsterdam in 1770.

Still, accumulating excessive debt is far too easy. Spending naturally rises faster than revenue. But once the fatal spiral begins, how can a state escape disaster? There are only eight options: (1) higher taxes; (2) less spending; (3) more growth; (4) more lenient interest rates; (5) worse inflation; (6) war; (7) external aid; or [8] default. All eight options have been used in the past, but only one of them is both plausible and desirable today: growth. A growing economy (which raises tax revenue) permits the absorption of debt and restores sustainable public finances. Then borrowing can resume—if it will encourage further growth. Responsible governments do not finance their everyday expenses by borrowing, and they keep their investments at a level they can repay.

History offers one final lesson. The power of sovereign states can foster a sense of impunity that encourages excessive debt. In the past, sovereign states have sometimes rid themselves of creditors by simply driving them out (as they did repeatedly with Europe’s Jews), by tormenting them, or by simply refusing to pay. When modern states borrow from a range of anonymous investors on global markets, sovereign immunity protects their assets against seizure—China cannot seize the White House as collateral for U.S. Treasury debt. But creditors can still negotiate, even with sovereign debtors. When a state loses the market’s confidence, the threat of a financial cutoff is a jolt back to reality. Just ask Greece, as its leaders scramble to reduce its public deficit as quickly as possible. The West needs to wake up now, shake off the yoke of public debt, and take the path of liberty. That path is long and difficult. It means balancing budgets and stabilizing the financial sector. But the great reward will be a return to confidence and growth—for those who put in the effort, and for those with the audacity to see it through.
 
European nations start seizing private pensions. Americans are also vunerable since they have accumulated several trillion dollars in their 401(k) savings accounts, which would balance the books for about a year, or bail out underfunded public service union pensions or whatever else politicians would deem fit to do. Our RRSP's havn't been publicly looked ove yet, but don't imagine there are not some people who would love to get their hands on them....:

http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/The-Adam-Smith-Institute-Blog/2011/0102/European-nations-begin-seizing-private-pensions?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+feeds%2Fcsm+%28Christian+Science+Monitor+|+All+Stories%29

European nations begin seizing private pensions
Hungary, Poland, and three other nations take over citizens' pension money to make up government budget shortfalls.

Old women eat lunch in a retirement home in Budapest Dec. 13, 2010. Hungarian lawmakers rolled back a 1997 pension reform, allowing the government to effectively seize up to $14 billion in private pension assets to reduce the budget gap while avoiding painful austerity measures.

Bernadett Szabo/Reuters/File

By Jan Iwanik, Guest blogger / January 2, 2011

People’s retirement savings are a convenient source of revenue for governments that don’t want to reduce spending or make privatizations. As most pension schemes in Europe are organised by the state, European ministers of finance have a facilitated access to the savings accumulated there, and it is only logical that they try to get a hold of this money for their own ends. In recent weeks I have noted five such attempts: Three situations concern private personal savings; two others refer to national funds.

The most striking example is Hungary, where last month the government made the citizens an offer they could not refuse. They could either remit their individual retirement savings to the state, or lose the right to the basic state pension (but still have an obligation to pay contributions for it). In this extortionate way, the government wants to gain control over $14bn of individual retirement savings.

The Bulgarian government has come up with a similar idea. $300m of private early retirement savings was supposed to be transferred to the state pension scheme. The government gave way after trade unions protested and finally only about 20% of the original plans were implemented.

A slightly less drastic situation is developing in Poland. The government wants to transfer of 1/3 of future contributions from individual retirement accounts to the state-run social security system. Since this system does not back its liabilities with stocks or even bonds, the money taken away from the savers will go directly to the state treasury and savers will lose about $2.3bn a year. The Polish government is more generous than the Hungarian one, but only because it wants to seize just 1/3 of the future savings and also allows the citizens to keep the money accumulated so far.

The fourth example is Ireland. In 2001, the National Pension Reserve Fund was brought into existence for the purpose of supporting pensions of the Irish people in the years 2025-2050. The scheme was also supposed to provide for the pensions of some public sector employees (mainly university staff). However, in March 2009, the Irish government earmarked €4bn from this fund for rescuing banks. In November 2010, the remaining savings of €2.5bn was seized to support the bailout of the rest of the country.

The final example is France. In November, the French parliament decided to earmark €33bn from the national reserve pension fund FRR to reduce the short-term pension scheme deficit. In this way, the retirement savings intended for the years 2020-2040 will be used earlier, that is in the years 2011-2024, and the government will spend the saved up resources on other purposes.

It looks like although the governments are able to enforce general participation in pension schemes, they do not seem to be the best guardians of the money accumulated there.

The table below is a summary of the discussed fiscal-retirement situations (source):

*These figures do not include the costs of higher taxes, price inflation and low interest rates, which additionally devaluate retirement savings.

[This article was originally posted at mises.pl]
 
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The Voyage of the Doomed

Posted By Richard Fernandez On January 2, 2011 @ 10:50 pm In Uncategorized | 9 Comments

The New York Times [1] describes the plight of southern Europe’s “doomed generation”; young people flush with the finest credentials who can’t find a paying job. “Francesca Esposito has a law degree and a master’s and speaks five languages. She recently quit her unpaid job for Italy’s social security administration.”  Esposito was working pro bono for old people, who she believed were squatting on the jobs that the young should have.

    She not only worked for free on behalf of the nation’s elderly, who have generally crowded out the young for jobs, but her efforts there did not even apply to her own pension. …

    The outrage of the young has erupted, sometimes violently, on the streets of Greece and Italy in recent weeks, as students and more radical anarchists protest not only specific austerity measures in flattened economies but a rising reality in Southern Europe: People like Ms. Esposito feel increasingly shut out of their own futures. Experts warn of volatility in state finances and the broader society as the most highly educated generation in the history of the Mediterranean hits one of its worst job markets.

The phrase “no American is ever made better off by pulling a fellow American down, and every American is made better off whenever any one of us is made better off. A rising tide raises all boats,” once derided as the hallmark of simplistic American trickle down economics, may embody some wisdom after all. At least in comparison to a low growth, redistributive economy which is running out of stuff to redistribute.

    Even before the economic crisis hit, Southern Europe was not an easy place to forge a career. Low growth and a corrosive lack of meritocracy have long posed challenges to finding a job in Italy, Greece, Spain and Portugal. Today, with the added sting of austerity, more people are left fighting over fewer opportunities. It is a zero-sum game that inevitably pits younger workers struggling to enter the labor market against older ones already occupying precious slots.

Europeans are now seeking greener pastures, in places like Costa Rica. One lady, fed up with earning the princely sum of $791 a month as a children’s drama teacher, is going to teach in Central America. “What we have is a Ponzi scheme,” said Lawrence Kotlikoff, an economist at Boston University and an expert in fiscal policy.

    He said that pay-as-you-go social security and health care were a looming fiscal disaster in Southern Europe and beyond. “If these fertility rates continue through time, you won’t have Italians, Spanish, Greeks, Portuguese or Russians,” he said. “I imagine the Chinese will just move into Southern Europe.”

He might as well have been talking about American entitlements, like Social Security, whose chief shortcoming, in the view of some, is that it is not as extensive as those Europeans enjoy. Give it time and Hope and Change will upgrade it to European standards. Or maybe not. The welfare state is coming face to face with the problem of how to fund its generous entitlement system with shrinking numbers of highly credentialed service workers who can’t find jobs.

Europe, as Mark Steyn has long been pointing out, is in a demographic death spiral. But the politicians at the helm aren’t going to recover from the stall any time soon. No sirree. It’s far better to keep the plane right where it is, headed for a controlled flight into the terrain below.

    Because older workers tend to be voters, labor reform remains a third rail to most politicians. Asked at a news conference last year about changing Italy’s de facto two-tier system, Italy’s center-right finance minister, Giulio Tremonti, said simply, “You can’t make violent changes to the system.”

So for some Europeans it is Costa Rica or bust; where one of the virtues, in common with most of the Third World, is that there are almost no rules. The absence of regulation must make the non-Western world something like the frontier, where both disaster and great fortune seem to lurk right around the corner.

These guys from something called the Philippine Job Experiment have made a series of tongue-in-cheek videos of what its like for two Americans to try and make a living driving a taxi in Northern Luzon, a jeepney in Manila, and being a sugar-water vendor.  These guys know exactly what they’re doing.  Their Tagalog accents are nearly perfect and the videos are littered with the little in-jokes that only people who know their way around can think of.

Maybe it’s a sociological experiment or just a fun YouTube video. On the other hand, maybe it’s a warning that if things get really tough, at least there’s always room for one more taxi in Santiago, Isabela.
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@ Thucydides:  I like what you are doing here, these are important questions and very relevant.  I'll have to catch up.

Re: The Spanish Ghostowns, housing bubble-- I saw this in the documentary Let's Make Money, by Erwin Wagenhofer. The link is here: http://www.letsmakemoney.at/

I was trying to find a good review on-line, tough to find.  Wikipedia described it as "anti-capitalist".  I wouldn't call it that my self, but it's a critique and warning that's worth looking at IMO.  We should be learning by the mistakes of others, rather than repeating them.  Free-market all well and good, but responsible also back to country. . .and thinking forwardly.  I'm worried.  I have much to learn though.
 
The bottom line is oil/gas :( 

I was researching re: oil connections. . . freaky, freaky stuff.  I looked into the history, back in Nixon's time, the abolishment of Bretton Wood and gold standard, replacement to the American US dollar standard, and the implications re: safe speculation (e.g. Spanish ghosttown, investors invest, but pull out quick enough, money to make money, despite no use for those homes-- destroyed some pretty pristine shoreline, natural beauty).

I think we are in trouble, Canada and US as relates to the petrodollars-- we have to keep purchasing, no going green, it's like riding the tiger's back, can't jump off without huge instability, financial crisis.  No doubt Bush admin was completely wired into OIL. . . found an interesting connection re: Condaleeza Rice and Chevron, which was set up for Condeleeza (they even named a tanker after her, for her service on the Board of Directors) via George Shultz.  Enron, Unocal, Cheney and Haliburton, and of course Bush family, Penzzoil.

It's over the head of the average Lefty, but this was a pretty trippy analysis:
[http://www.tacomapjh.org/petrodollartheories.htm]

Is the US trapped into perpetual warfare?  Is there another way. . .?  New negotiation of trading standard. . .?  We're just as trapped possibly, because we're highly reliant on petrodollar, we consume a lot.  Can't even go green?

This is really scary stuff.  I don't wish for major instability, but a lot of this is madness. Is there a softer way through it?  It's interesting that Stateside, subsidized purchases of SUVs. . .  who could possibly introduce changes or challenge this. . . work out another way cause it's eggshells.  It scary how precarious and very fragile it it all is.  Democracy, our environment (food, water are way more essential to life), future generations. . . our seniors, disabilited, children. . . scary stuff.
 
kstart said:
The bottom line is oil/gas :( 
...
I think we are in trouble, Canada and US as relates to the petrodollars--
...
This is really scary stuff.  I don't wish for major instability, but a lot of this is madness. Is there a softer way through it?  It's interesting that Stateside, subsidized purchases of SUVs. . .  who could possibly introduce changes or challenge this. . . work out another way cause it's eggshells.  It scary how precarious and very fragile it it all is.  Democracy, our environment (food, water are way more essential to life), future generations. . . our seniors, disabilited, children. . . scary stuff.


I almost hate to tell you this, but the Canadian dollar IS a petrodollar.
 
E.R. Campbell said:
I almost hate to tell you this, but the Canadian dollar IS a petrodollar.

This is brand new learning for me (economics obviously not my forte  ;)).  I'm relatively young and was not taught about this history, the ramifications really freak me out. 

It's like the movie, the Matrix, I was seeking to understand something, something is off here about the way things are going, but I'm shocked.  So, these wars and what they've been telling us, are hiding the reality of the actual eggshells we are walking on re: our basic economic security, old age pensions, the financial security needed for the basic health and functioning of our own democracy here at home?  That these wars are deemed necessary to prevent total financial collapse of the Western World. . . it freaks me out. 

So, maybe Obama wasn't so hip to this when he first campained for office.  He can't even stand up to BP re: Gulf of Mexico, poor Lousianna.  If he had any ideals and principles, I gather that he must be loathing himself right now (it looks that way too, the shine has gone out of him).
 
It sure sounds like you are parroting something/someone.

Obama didn't do any worse than any other president would have done. He tagged BP with the spill, and they are on the hook for it. Hindsight is often 20/20 but I doubt there was anyone else out there that could have done anything else but make BP responsible and keep the pressure on.
 
US National Debt Tops $14 Trillion
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The latest posting today of the National Debt shows it has topped $14 trillion for the first time.

The U.S. Treasury website today reported that as of last Friday, the last day of 2010, the National Debt stood at $14,025,215,218,708.52.

It took just 7 months for the National Debt to increase from $13 trillion on June 1, 2010 to $14 trillion on Dec. 31. It also means the debt is fast approaching the statutory ceiling $14.294 trillion set by Congress and signed into law by President Obama last February.

The federal government would have to stop borrowing and might even default on its obligations if Congress fails to increase the Debt Ceiling before the limit is reached.

Some Republicans in the new Congress have said they'll seek to block an increase in the Debt Ceiling unless a plan is in place to significantly reduce federal spending and unfunded government liabilities on entitlement programs such as Social Security and Medicare.

White House economic adviser Austan Goolsbee warned yesterday that it would be "catastrophic" if the U.S. Government were to default on its financial obligations.

"That would be the first default in history caused purely by insanity," said Goolsbee of plans to block an increase in the Debt Ceiling.
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GAP said:
It sure sounds like you are parroting something/someone.

Obama didn't do any worse than any other president would have done. He tagged BP with the spill, and they are on the hook for it. Hindsight is often 20/20 but I doubt there was anyone else out there that could have done anything else but make BP responsible and keep the pressure on.

:-[ I'm actually not sure who you mean re: that I'm parroting someone/something. . .?  (I don't have cable TV even :-[. . . I'll rent documentaries, etc., but no I'm not really smart about economics). 

I got swept up with hopes with Obama, but it's true it's an inheritance of a system that's showing it's frailty-- the debt is astounding.  De-regulation is an on-going theme, less outside authority to check up on corporations, and/or bribes, lobbying etc. (so that the aging wells were properly looked after).  Without the strength of laws, nor the will of the people re: those laws, nor the money to go to battle with large corporations . . . 

I agree, no-one else could have really kept the pressure up. . . probably makes no difference, republican or democrat. . . ?  Hands are tied with a lot of things, even with introducing new legislation, Congress is Republican. . .favours always to the corporate sponsors. . .

It's just that the situation is graver than I imagined.  Democracy is not looking very healthy :(
 
The global impact of the US defaulting on its obligations is almost incalculable. If we're having a recession now, wait until the world looses what little confidence it has left in America.
 
kstart said:
:-[ I'm actually not sure who you mean re: that I'm parroting someone/something. . .? 
I try to avoid speaking on behalf of other people. The impression you've left so far with me, however, is like the Grad Student character in Good Will Hunting who, having read a couple of books, has many quotes and buzzwords, but none of the understanding.

I suspect you've been exposed to a couple of left-wing, conspiratorial treatises on TAPI and now believe that that is the only reason CF troops are in Afghanistan. Quelling an insurgency while encouraging and supporting freedoms, schools, village infrastructure has all been a big lie, orchestrated somehow by Dick Cheney, so we can build an oil pipeline across south-western Asia.

That's my read of your posts anyway. And I strongly encourage you to keep reading, however, be discriminating in your sources of information.

Several threads here, for example, resulted from a 24-hour posting frenzy that has resulted in a follow-on stream of "oh, but what I meant to say was...."  -- such poorly thought-out submissions, especially when the poster is obviously not a subject-matter expert, tend to add more confusion than clarity.
 
Journeyman said:
I try to avoid speaking on behalf of other people. The impression you've left so far with me, however, is like the Grad Student character in Good Will Hunting who, having read a couple of books, has many quotes and buzzwords, but none of the understanding.

I suspect you've been exposed to a couple of left-wing, conspiratorial treatises on TAPI and now believe that that is the only reason CF troops are in Afghanistan. Quelling an insurgency while encouraging and supporting freedoms, schools, village infrastructure has all been a big lie, orchestrated somehow by Dick Cheney, so we can build an oil pipeline across south-western Asia.

That's my read of your posts anyway. And I strongly encourage you to keep reading, however, be discriminating in your sources of information.

Several threads here, for example, resulted from a 24-hour posting frenzy that has resulted in a follow-on stream of "oh, but what I meant to say was...."  -- such poorly thought-out submissions, especially when the poster is obviously not a subject-matter expert, tend to add more confusion than clarity.

What he said Kstart - with one modification.

You say that you are just starting out and that much of this new information comes as a surprise to you.  At this stage I would suggest that you NOT be discriminating in your readings but rather be very "catholic" - or all encompassing in your reading. 

You should, however, be very aware of the biases of the authors.  Even the worst propagandist, no matter what their master's view point, resorts to facts occasionally.  And if you can get a right winger and a left winger to agree that a specific event occured on a certain date and involved agreed individuals at a defined location then you have a pretty solid starting point for drawing your own conclusions.  That covers the traditional Who, What, Where, When.

The other W, Why..... well do like every other propagandist, journalist and participant....make it up for yourself.  Nobody really ever remembers why they did something.  There were reasons to act and reasons not to act.  There were reasons that benefited the actor and reasons that benefited others.  In the end decisions are made just because a decision had to be made  and no thought given to the consequences.
 
Kirkhill said:
What he said Kstart - with one modification.
Ya, what he said about what I said......given my "be discriminating in your sources of information" is pretty close to his "be very aware of the biases of the authors."  :)
 
There is a clear relationship re: OIL/GAS and Security; it’s not the imaginations of the ‘loony-left“; it is fact as stated in US energy and security policy directives and I believe they are seen as intrinsically linked.  It's evident in 1) Cheney's stated policies re: pre-emptive strikes re: energy resources; 2) US Policy re: "Preventative War and Pre-emption"/containment.  It's not a grasp at thin air.  It can also help to understand this as it's possibly a point of resistance and counter-insurgency. 

Here’s a source document, properly referenced and the following quotation summing up the nature of my fears and reactions:
USAWC STRATEGY RESEARCH PROJECT
PREEMPTIVE ENERGY SECURITY: AN AGGRESSIVE APPROACH TO MEETING
AMERICA’S REQUIREMENTS
by Lieutenant Colonel Dennis D. Tewksbury
United States Army
Captain Donald Root
Project Adviser

http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf&AD=ADA448259

The 2002 NSS fails to adequately address this kind of threat. The President believes we
can achieve energy security through the shared prosperity gained by working with our friends
and trading partners and discovering new technologies.51 However, these goals are oriented
towards the future offering no specific timeframe for implementation and fail to address the
present situation. The NSS repeatedly asserts the importance of economic prosperity in
relationship to the security of this nation. The amount of foreign aid and diplomatic effort this
government devotes to guaranteeing an uninterrupted flow of oil imports demonstrates the
importance this commodity has to the national economy and security. Former commander of
Central Command (CENTCOM), General Anthony Zinni, responding to congressional
questioning about the number of military exercises in the CENTCOM region and the relevance
of the exercises to national interest and national security, replied “My region, the Middle East, is
obviously valuable to us as a source of oil and natural gas, the need to keep the region stable in
there …is critical to our own economy.”52 Thus the general clearly acknowledged the critical
strategic nature of oil. The NSS, the overarching document that directs use of the elements of
national power, fails to prepare the country for this catastrophic situation.

The President must address the issue of energy security by educating the American
public about the importance oil with regard to the economy and explaining that we must prepare
to use military force to guarantee access to oil. Oil is this nation’s economic lifeblood. The
public’s understanding must transcend the anti-capitalistic chants of “no blood for oil” and public
distrust of oil corporations. Typically, Americans will only support drastic changes, especially
those that affect their daily lives and their budgets, if faced with extreme circumstances. The
President would face a daunting task of convincing the public of the need to take a preemptive
position, even if it is a temporary measure, until the nation achieves energy independence.
Unfortunately, this would be an unpopular policy position. However, the likelihood of Americans
supporting policies that push alternative energy would be just as unpopular. New tensions in
Iran and Venezuela and the threat of 100-dollar barrel of oil are generating more interest in
energy security. As unpopular or aggressive as this policy may seem, it is a necessary stopgap
measure until this nation is free of its dependence on foreign oil.

A preemptive position is not without precedent. In August 1975, the Congressional. . .
Research Service delivered a feasibility study to the Special Committee on Investigations of the
House Committee on International Relations that considered using military force to seize oil
fields.53”” (page 12)

I’ve heard "right-wing conspiracy theories", that the “green movement’ is meant to threaten US global financial superiority (though in reality might be more closer to essential financial stability, a very real "National Security" reason, prevent anarchy, democracy falling apart etc.). 

My panic reactions (yes, fair criticism of my expression) was from spontaneous connection of some dots (a longer story to that).  “Green values” are not intrinsically a bad, there are just some serious problems with how economy works that is a threat to the health of the earth and to its people.  There’s a lot of junk produced that we truly don’t need, but at present it’s a trap. . ?  But water, food, shelter, health care, democracy, peace and stability are essential.. It’s this conundrum I’m reacting to.  I wish “Green” wasn’t vilified, but I understand better where that’s coming from-- it’s virtually a ‘national security threat‘?

I seek middle ground, responsible changes.

This thread is about global economics, I put forth a perspective, that's all, but I don't think there are grounds to deny the very real OIL/GAS/ENERGY and it's direct relationship to NATIONAL SECURITY and security abroad.  It's clearly stated in US policy and directives, and the history of that goes as far back and the late 1940sIf we are truly honest, we would all admit to the fact of our own own biases, our and those trigger issues that stem from attachment to ideological viewpoints-- and if we look deeper, those elements exist behind any argument, or position.

I'm also not denying the importance of ISAF, peace, security, democracy to quell insurgency-- and the economic relationships re: potentials to develop WMD.  This is an essential component:democracy peace, stability, good for all of us..  ideas even re: TAPI is that it is an economic partnership, and development being an important fact to a stable democracy (self-sustenance, independence, $ to fund democratic institutions: education, law, enforcement/NDS/ANA, etc.)  and to make sure that pipeline is not used as one massive weapon.  I've read some of the thinking behind this as well.  I'm not a 'radical', my core values though maybe come into conflict with the current stream, ebb and flow. 

I just desire some honesty here and looking out for the common good, and yes, away from the rhetoric (and know it exists both sides, hawks, doves, right, left, etc.)-- somewhere in the middle there is a reasonable ground and foundation. . .?  I'm not an 'evil person' because some of my core values coincide with greeny stuff or humanitarian, etc.  Greeny stuff is just not atm, a possible threat, and I think there has been some propaganda liewise that is against green, and the same can be said for 'pro-green' (e.g. EU vs. Us), but the value in itself is not a bad thing.  It's just a wall I had not fully realized  But EU is on board, because they likely recognize the importance of peace and stability in the first place and how frightening WMD are.
 
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