Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

[Underway]

If CDC is anything other than vapourware wont it step into that dominant AAW role?

Continental Defence Corvette roles have been evolving. And AAW is not one of those. Self defence only at this point.

 

[Underway]

Type 26 really is becoming NATO North's ship of choice eh?

It's certainly worked out for the UK which had the goal of export when it was designed. Good option for Norway.

 

[OldSolduer]

OK so landlubber here. Are there ships that are specifically designed as Anti Air ships?
Is the Aegis cruiser one?

 

[Underway]

OK so landlubber here. Are there ships that are specifically designed as Anti Air ships?
Is the Aegis cruiser one?

Yes. Ticonderoga class cruiser is one. In the British fleet the Type 45 Destroyers are Anti Air Warfare (AAW) ships. There are many others from many different countries (Italy, Australia, Japan, etc...).

Their features are generally:
-very powerful radar combined with a combat management system that can track 100s of targets at a time
-excellent command and control capabilities
-large number of anti air missiles available for long range missile engagements (for area air defence not just self defence)

Aegis is just the name of a combat management system. Multiple ship types use Aegis for their Air Warfare. Japan, Korea, Australia, Spain, US, Norway and now Canada. In some cases (Japan and US) there are multiple types within the same navy that use Aegis.

 

[Maxman1]

The Type 83 Destroyer is being developed as a replacement for the Type 45. No official details are available yet.

 

[Underway]

The Type 83 Destroyer is being developed as a replacement for the Type 45. No official details are available yet.

Yep. Its going to be interesting. They are developing a new radar system for it already.

 

[NavyShooter]

OK....so....what's the consensus on the hull number?

I'm going to do up a couple of maple leaf decals for the funnel sides, but I really think she needs a hull number.

NS

 

[OldSolduer]

OK....so....what's the consensus on the hull number?

I'm going to do up a couple of maple leaf decals for the funnel sides, but I really think she needs a hull number.

NS

RCN 1701

 

[Underway]

OK....so....what's the consensus on the hull number?

I'm going to do up a couple of maple leaf decals for the funnel sides, but I really think she needs a hull number.

NS

HMCS Fraser (DDH 233) was the original. Maybe do that one in honour of her history.

 

[IKnowNothing]

You should be concerned with VLS numbers. The RCN is also concerned about the number of VLS. The CRCN has stated that publicly. That's one of the reasons the RCN TG config increased to 4 RCD's from 3 in some of the documents. But as per normal with all things there are trade offs.

Continental Defence Corvette roles have been evolving. And AAW is not one of those. Self defence only at this point.

If one were to try and draw a line between CDC and River class employment, would it be that the existence of the CDC as a combatant frees up the River's to actually be massed to create these doctrinal TG's in reality rather than having them be left as theoretical while the limited number of River's get pulled in every direction?

 

[Nvlgzr]

OK....so....what's the consensus on the hull number?

I'm going to do up a couple of maple leaf decals for the funnel sides, but I really think she needs a hull number.

NS

If we’re calling them destroyers then following Algonquin (DDH283] shouldn’t it be 284?

 

[NavyShooter]

This site suggests 240 as a starting point...

What’s in a Name? – Canadian Naval Review

By David Dunlop, 7 August 2024 The CSC class name has now been decided – the River class. This class of ship will be named after major Canadian rivers. The name choice of ship #15 could be either HMCS Columbia or HMCS Churchill.

www.navalreview.ca

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

Mu best guess would be 285. it's middle of a set (midway between two "0" numbers), comes after ALGONQUIN, and ensures that all numbers are in the 200 series.

Even if they decide ultimately not to leave any blanks, it would still be a number found in the first batch of three.

On the other hand, people suggesting starting at 240 have a point: there is a 20 numbers gap (why? Again, welcome to Canada's inconsistent pennant numbering system) between Gatineau #2 (236) and St. Croix #2 (256), so who knows?

 

[dapaterson]

Simple: Pivot to Hexadecimal.

 

[Czech_pivo]

This site suggests 240 as a starting point...

What’s in a Name? – Canadian Naval Review

By David Dunlop, 7 August 2024 The CSC class name has now been decided – the River class. This class of ship will be named after major Canadian rivers. The name choice of ship #15 could be either HMCS Columbia or HMCS Churchill.

www.navalreview.ca

I’m hoping for HMCS Grand or HMCS Thames.
Remove the second BC or EC option. Even Yukon since is mostly flows through Alaska.

 

[Nvlgzr]

This site suggests 240 as a starting point...

What’s in a Name? – Canadian Naval Review

By David Dunlop, 7 August 2024 The CSC class name has now been decided – the River class. This class of ship will be named after major Canadian rivers. The name choice of ship #15 could be either HMCS Columbia or HMCS Churchill.

www.navalreview.ca

David Dunlop is just spitballing.on names and hull numbers. Only the first 3 hulls have been named. Note David’s 12th ship is Assiniboine. That is the name being given to the land test facility at Hartlen Point. The numbers he picked, I don’t believe have been used in the past.