Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

[Oldgateboatdriver]

Shooting the smokestack of a merchant ship to bring it to a halt goes back to the first steamships of the late 1800's. To manage it in a single shot can be done by any means of fire control.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Raytheon Canada, based on Rafael's Mini Typhoon

Are people generally happy with it?

 

[Underway]

Are people generally happy with it?

There were some EOIR issues with some of them to start. Not sure if its been worked out or not, but when they didn't need replacement they were very good. They just didn't last as long as we needed so you needed to keep spares. Can't speak to more then that but they thought they had the issue nailed down a few years ago.

 

[Underway]

Are people generally happy with it?

OH, when they worked they really worked well. The aft ones in particular were excellent and rarely had a problem on my last ship. Very accurate and impressive.

 

[Seyek]

Speaking of which, who made the .50cal RWS systems currently on the Halifax Class? It would seem they would be a good addition to the RCD, AOP's and even the new Orca class and the JSS.

Not a Navy person, but I'm familiar with .50 cals army side - what are the reasons for preferring .50 RWS vs something heavier like the ~30mm systems that are available? I would imagine magazine space and weight isn't such an issue on a ship this size for ammunition, and given limited space to mount systems like this you'd get better effect on target from the larger caliber systems with greater options for ammunition payload. Is it a matter of needing something smaller for smaller targets?

 

[oldcpu]

why 4 of this and 3 of that and 5 of another?
Is not the first batch going to be 3?
for the stone frigate at Hartlen Point?

I can only speculate, having retired decades ago from the RCN. Possibly like yourself, my speculation is 3 for the first 3 ships, and where there is one extra (ie total 4 in this initial procurement) then the 4th is possibly for a land training site.

I suspect the same logic applies for the case were 5 units are ordered. ie .. "five (5) command and control processors". Likely 3 for the first 3 ships. As for speculation for the remaining 2? Possibly 1 (or maybe 2) needed to work with other equipment used in a land sight. Another speculative idea is being a 'command and control processor' .. possibly it is needed for some software verification activity separate from training.

Obviously, speculation, by me.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Not a Navy person, but I'm familiar with .50 cals army side - what are the reasons for preferring .50 RWS vs something heavier like the ~30mm systems that are available? I would imagine magazine space and weight isn't such an issue on a ship this size for ammunition, and given limited space to mount systems like this you'd get better effect on target from the larger caliber systems with greater options for ammunition payload. Is it a matter of needing something smaller for smaller targets?

Weight and size issues (not to mention costs) The RCD are getting two 30mm guns, these can supplement them. On the AOP's they be a major step up in targeting and self-defence of the afterpart of the ship by replacing the two pintle mounted guns (which could be moved even further to the stern) That would give optical targeting ability of almost 360 degrees.

 

[Underway]

why 4 of this and 3 of that and 5 of another?
Is not the first batch going to be 3?
for the stone frigate at Hartlen Point?

• four (4) Next Generation Surface Search Radars;

Three ship sets and one for Harlen Point for land based testing and technician training

• four (4) Rolling Airframe Missile Guided Missile Launcher Systems;
• four (4) Shipboard Panoramic Electro-Optic Infrared (SPEIR) systems;

Three ship sets and one for technician training at the school

• three (3) MK-45 5-inch gun mounts; and

Three ship sets. I expect a training agreement will be reached with the UK or US for getting techs up to speed, at least initially as you'll not only need the full gun but the full feed system below decks to be built at a special facility. Given the very recent changes to this weapon system I don't expect that this is fully fleshed out yet.

• five (5) command and control processors.

Three ship sets and one for ashore team training on the east coast and one for ashore team training on the west coast.