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CF Display at the CNE

Loachman

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There was a fairly large CF display at the CNE over the past two weeks, which included major Army vehicles, a variety of aircraft parts and a complete CT114 Tutor in Snowbird colours courtesy of CFSATE in Borden, and a couple of small Navy boats and display tent. We flew a Griffon in at 0630 on Saturday morning and had that open as well.

Weather was not great. It started raining about noon on Saturday and kept up until after we closed for the evening. We still had a fair number of people through despite that, but as the numbers tapered off around dinner time the display closed early at about 1830. Weather on Sunday and Monday was better, but still not the greatest..

There were well over half a million people through the display over the two weeks, and good crowds over the weekend despite crappy weather on Saturday and iffy weather on Sunday and Monday. There were constant line-ups to see our helicopter throughout. Kids were
obviously naturally excited and curious (we had a hard time coaxing some of them out again), and many parents wanted little more than a photograph of their chil(ren) wearing a flying helmet and sitting in the machine. Many couples, young or old, just wanted the same thing too. Some parents of rather young children said that Johnny or Sally or Raschid or Surinder (yes, some "visible majority" parents included) were very interested in joining when they were old enough and that they thought that this was a good career for them. Many teens expressed an interest in joining. Some people just wanted the freebies that we were handing out (I'm not sure what motivated them, other
than "something for nothing"). Many people thanked me, which I find a little embarassing as there really is no need (although that's way better than the opposite). Many technical questions were asked.

I heard a huge variety of languages being spoken between husband and wife, boyfriend and girlfriend, parent and child and had whole families of Chinese, Koreans, Japanese, Sikhs, Muslims, Africans, Aboriginals, and people from probably every other country sit in the machine and express interest, concern for us, and curiosity in what we do and how the helicopter works. The only negative comment was
from a drunken white guy late on Sunday evening who didn't think that we should be fighting "Bush's war for oil in Afghanistan" despite lacking any real knowledge of what we were really doing or why or the political and geographical environment in which we're operating - or
coherence - but he was still polite and friendly. Not one other person suggested that we should pull out.

There was no difference in how those who were obviously Muslim acted towards us, including those dressed in traditional conservative Muslim garb. Clothing aside, they were indistinguishable from any "normal Canadian" - but I was not quite sure how to respond to questions from a veiled Muslim woman who was as self-assured and curious as any Western woman, and in the presence of her traditionally-dressed husband, but there was clearly non of the stereotypical oppression or abuse in that relationship.

Children were noticeably polite and well-mannered , with most by far managing to get their thank-yous (for the entertainment, handouts and photo ops) before being reminded by their parents.

Several Muslims expressed an interest in joining and helping out. I had a lengthy chat in a quieter moment (they didn't last long, though) with such a fellow from Iraq. Quite expectedly, the situation in his homeland came up and he was surprisingly nonchalant about it. He wasn't happy, but explained it as a continuation of past history but with a variation. He didn't blame the Americans, but the same sort of
factional infighting that had killed hundreds of thousands over many years, latterly under the Saddam Hussein regime. We expressed a mutual desire and hope for peace and prosperity for his birthplace before he headed over to the recruiters in the big display tent
for a few answers.

We conducted a small public service in the display area on Monday morning. Those civilians that attended, from all races, cultures, religions, and ethnic backgrounds, seemed equally moved.

It was a tiring weekend, but an uplifting one, and I'll happily do it again next year.
 
I went and checked out, and I must say it was much better, than having the same old "recruiting/info" booth inside the trade centre.  I was even surprised that there was a Leo among the vehicles present (considering the only armoured pers I saw were from the RCD's  >:D).  I also saw that there was G-Wagon in the daily parade, with the troops inside tossing out those support the troops bracelets.  All in all very nice to see.
 
It's nice to see that the Army is doing recruiting displays based on it's capabilities and not a job creating / make work / peacekeeping only vision.

I think a lot of people understand all too well that there is more of a need for the CF now than at any time since Korea...
 
Its nice to see that displays such as this are starting up again.  I remember going to the PNE in Vancouver back in the 80s and visiting the CF exhibit.  They would rotate each year between the three services, in a little building building next to the Pacific Colosseum.  I distinctly remember  the Army's demo using a M113, where they drove the vehicle around and did donuts on a little concrete pad.  Inside the building they did an unarmed combat demo that finished with a guy shooting off an SMG.  Finally, all the kids got a free Polaroid wearing a helmet in front of a backdrop, framed in a little PNE folder. To a ten year old, that was pretty cool. 

I know that did the same thing out at the CNE, because my father did the PNE/CNE dog&pony when it was the Navy's turn.  Then one year they stopped the demos.  I hadn't seen them for years, which really surprised me.  I mean, what a perfect opportunity to show the CF to a large crowd.  When I moved to Toronto last year, I was curious to see if they were doing any static displays at the CNE, and was disappointed to find out that:

a.  There were no displays beyond the first weekend, and
b.  not one of the CNE employees in the info booths knew anything about what I asking about ("miliary display?").

The CNE left a pretty bad taste in my month...not even half the show of the PNE.  Crap rides, few shows, overpriced food and nothing but vendors.  I'm glad they brought in something more substantial than a MLVW and a few free keychains, but I wasn't about the haul my ass downtown when the only thing worth seeing is the CF booth.  Hopefully they revive the tradition to what it was in days past.
 
Normally I skip the CNE because of the logistical nightmare to get there only to stand in line for excess lengths of time... But had I known that the CF was hosting something like that, I might have tried to muster up the funds to go down to it with my wife and kids. It sounds like you had a very cool experience, and that the CF has definitely come to realize that jets make for better recruiting than a pamphlet.
 
I visited the CNE on both Sunday with the wife and then again on Monday to take in the air show. Both times I ended up at the recruiting display for a quick walk about even dragging the D9er into the back of the M-113 to show her what was once my home sweet home for part of my misspent youth, thanks for the walk down memory lane there BTW.

I agree, well laid out and professional display and overall I heard nothing but positive comments and genuine interest form the public. Sorry I missed the memorial on Monday, I wish I’d known about it.


Also kept looking for your ugly er distinctive mug there Loachman but no joy. ;D
 
I wish to god I'd had known about the CF Display, I would have been all over that...

I also wish to god the F-22 didn't get cancelled on Saturday because I couldn't go up Monday to see it due to the fact my car broke down after I came home Saturday night! ... The main reason I went to the Airshow this year was for the F-22... :( So not happy about that...

Did anyone get pics of it or video they could send me? I got tones of pics and video of all the other jet powered aircraft...

Joe
 
Danjanou said:
Also kept looking for your ugly er distinctive mug there Loachman but no joy.
Distinctive I'll accept.

It's funny that you missed me both times - I was at the helicopter far more than I was away from it. I generally only left to snag something to eat.

The service was semi-impromptu. It was announced at the 0930 brief.
 
R031 Pte Joe said:
The main reason I went to the Airshow this year was for the F-22...

Nothing to get excited about - the wings don't turn.
 
Will the CAF have a display this year?
If so any info would be appreciated.

Thanks
 
Baden  Guy said:
Will the CAF have a display this year?
If so any info would be appreciated.

Thanks

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