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CF "Experience Crisis"/recruiting and retention problems ...

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(from the Ottawa Citizen)

Retirements put Forces in 'crisis' of experience: New recruits can't replace
erosion of veterans' knowledge
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With experienced soldiers already leaving the ranks and a large number of
personnel soon coming up for early retirement, the Canadian Forces is in the
midst of an "experience crisis" that isn't expected to ease up until 2012,
according to an army report.

The current lack of experienced and knowledgeable soldiers in the military can
be traced back to the large-scale downsizing of the Armed Forces ordered by
governments in the 1990s, as well as the decision by the senior leadership to
almost stop recruiting during that period, explains a report produced by the
army in November and recently obtained by the Citizen.

And a former military officer who tried to warn the Defence Department about
the problem several years ago says the election promises by both the Liberals
and Conservatives to boost the size of the military will not change the
situation.

"This dearth of talent will limit the Canadian Forces' ability to expand for at
least the next seven years," said Howie Marsh, a retired colonel who was the
army's command inspector.

"As an institution we didn't realize what we were doing," he added. "Now we
have to pay the piper."

Both the Conservative and Liberal governments cut the military in the 1990s as
they sought a "peace dividend" after the end of the Cold War. The effect of
those cuts is still being felt, according to the army report, and will get
worse as a large group of military personnel approaches 20 years of service and
is eligible for retirement.

"Current modelling for officers shows that the (Canadian Forces) is currently
in a knowledge and experience crisis that will continue until at least 2012,"
the army report concludes.

"The forecast for (non-commissioned members) is just as bad with full recovery
not expected until 2012."

The information is based on another study done for the chief of defence staff
in early 2003.

But Col. Craig Fletcher, the director of military employment policy, says the
Canadian Forces has been aware of the problem for some time and the situation
isn't at a crisis level yet.

"I think there's potential, certainly," he said. "If nothing is done about it,
there would be a serious problem."

But Col. Fletcher said the Armed Forces is in the midst of putting together new
policies designed to convince those with experience to stay in the military
longer.

It is changing its compulsory retirement age from 55 to 60. It is also working
on a new pension scheme that would make it financially desirable for military
personnel to continue working until they have 25 years of service.

Currently, members of the military can retire at 20 years of service with a
pension of 40 per cent of their salary. Under the new scheme, they would retire
at 25 years service with 50 per cent of their salary.

In addition, the Armed Forces will also continue to make use of experienced
reserve troops to fill in some of the gaps in personnel.

The size of the Canadian military shrank by 25 per cent in the 1990s. On paper,
the Canadian Forces is now around 61,000, but in reality the number of active
military personnel ranges from 52,000 to 54,000.

Conservative leader Stephen Harper has promised to add 27,600 soldiers if
elected.

The Liberals have promised to increase the military by 8,000 if re-elected.
That includes boosting the size of the reserves from 15,500 to 18,500,
something that was promised under former defence minister John McCallum, but
never carried out. The Liberals would also create a 5,000-member brigade to
bolster peacekeeping capabilities.

But Mr. Marsh said to meet either the Liberal or Conservative promises,
military training schools would have to be expanded. But the ongoing problem is
that the units have been continually sent on overseas missions and many
soldiers responsible for training recruits are serving on the front-lines, Mr.
Marsh noted.

The army report noted that the main lesson learned from the cuts of the 1990s
is that the military is always in need of new recruits and it is not prudent to
limit or stop recruitment even if reductions are under way.

In addition, a related study conducted by the Defence Department and aimed at
detailing the "individual wellness" of military personnel found that stress is
increasing in the Canadian Forces and the number of mental health-related cases
has increased three-fold in the last three years. That was attributed to more
frequent overseas missions as well as better diagnosis of such cases.

"There are early indicators that the overall individual 'wellness' in the CF is
average because stress and mental health injuries are increasing and personal
and operational tempo are stressing the family, which leads to more releases,"
the study notes.

Around 51 per cent of military personnel who took part in the study rated their
quality of life, or QQL, as good or very good.

"QQL was broken into seven domains and career satisfaction received the lowest
rating due to poor senior leadership," it noted.
 
FRP coming back to haunt us.

"Currently, members of the military can retire at 20 years of service with a
pension of 40 per cent of their salary. Under the new scheme, they would retire
at 25 years service with 50 per cent of their salary."

That's not new!
It's still the Federal Super Anuation Pension Plan of 2% pension for every year served that every Fed. Employee gets.
Who do they think they are trying to fool?
 
So this would include Officers as well or just NCMs? Would the shortfall of members include the other 2 branches?
 
the 25 year thing is new- the option of retiring penalty free at 20 is being dropped in favour of a mandatory IPS to 25 years.

Read anything you sign carefully! :)
 
If they want to keep troops in the cmbt arms then the gov't should exempt them from paying taxes year round as a starter.




Also putting strippers back in there mess would help. ;D
 
I don,t know exactly how many potential new recruits become turned away at the recruiting centres, however it seems like quite a few. My application took a whole year and I missed basic that summer. Someone at the recruiting centre had lost one of my enlistment sheets and I wasn't impressed. I have a friend that was going to enlisted but when he saw my enlistment mess, he opted out. I go to a school with about 1800 students and only I and one other at my school have joined up and are going to basic this summer.He also had bad time at CFRC Vancouver as well. I don't think that solving all the enlistment woes will solve the manpower shortage but it certinly might help
 
I agree, this whole issue is going to bite the military in the a**... I just spent 2 months in Borden doing my JLC, and there is certainly no shortage of PATs waiting for courses (a couple thou, I was told). Trouble is, there isn't enough instructors or facilities to train them (I talked to one private in the mess who had been waiting for his course for A YEAR AND A HALF!). By the time these kids get out of the training system, they are bitter, undisciplined, and close to being ready to pull the pin as their first BE is almost done. Hardly any use to even have recruited them in the first place... When they are trained, it is nowhere near as detailed, disciplined, or intensive as it used to be, and the expectation is they will "learn it all on OJT at the unit". Nice, except most of us don't have enough time or resources to do the tasks we already have, let alone train people as well. On top of all this, these new guys (in a lot of trades) are getting posted to STATIC positions, because the career shop is afaid they will quit if they have to spend too much time in the field. Therefore the rest of us drag our tired old bodies around Pet and Wainwright in their place. what happened to the idea of "doing your time"? Needless to say, these sort of things don't exactly encourage those of us with 10+ years in to stay... I have a good posting now, but I fully expect I will spend my next back in a green truck putting up cam nets.
As for the pension issue, I would rather have my b**ls dragged over a mile of ground glass than let these guys try to make me commit to the 25 year plan. I might stay that long, but I sure don't want to be forced to to collect a pension. Trying to force people to stay longer, delaying releases for six months, etc isn't going to solve retention problems. I wish those in the Puzzle Palace would get that through their heads...
 
As someone who is in the recruiting process right now, I must say that I am more than a little concerned with what may be waiting for me. It sounds as though I may very well find myself doing odd jobs or PAT as I think its called for sometime, and that is if I ever get an offer.
I have been waiting over a year now and that seems to be about the norm, that is very discouraging and must be where a large number of potential recruits get lost.

This all seems to be part of a vicious circle.

I guess what I really dont understand is why the people who are capable of doing the training are sent overseas if they are so badly needed back here? What does it take to train recruits and MOC courses? a few hundred qualified members, a thousand at most? I'm sure I am probably way off on this and need to be enlightened but am I crazy or could we not get by without them overseas?
 
I never could understand why we haven't adopted training and recruitment as career postings. I  mean it would seem logical to me that most senior NCO's would very much like to get out of the field for a few years before their retirement and do some recruitment and training, as the get full pay and all the benefits, but it would be muchless grueling for them, better yet, use the recruiters to deliver training, so everybody recruited by Sgt. Bloggins is trained by Sgt. Bloggins during their course. Afterall, recruitment centers aren't open in the summer anyways.
 
:soldier: :fifty:
We need these experienced soldiers to help train the recruits, if we don't have these men our army could be hit hard with critisism on how were not prepared for or other reason, also if these men are to be sent to afganistan they will need experienced NCM's to help them with different problems.  Also some of these new recruits are gonna follow the example that they are shown by the older soldiers, so if they drop as soon as they can so will the recruits as soon as they can.
:salute: :cdn: :gunner: :fifty: :threat: :army:
 
Part of the problem is that we continue to try filling holes at the top by pumping in more at the bottom.  A shortage of Sgts is not eliminated by 100 new Ptes.  Why is it that we have signing bonuses in many trades but those same trades do not have re-signing bonuses?

 
out of curiosity, does that mandatory retirement at 55 apply across the board or rather when you hit a certain rank it goes out the window? 

 
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